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NPD Sales Results for June 2013 [Up2: 360/3DS Hardware, AC/LM/DK Digital + Retail]
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AgentChris
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USA, Japan and Europe = the world... The more you know.
I do like "Hawaii?"
Visualante2
Member
What did Microsoft bring to the table? A fucking awful E3 showing while Sony brings a promising year of releases. This was their best chance to stick it to MS and I'm sure they will be disappointed they couldn't.
Femmeworth
Banned
Congratulations to Naughty Dog, hope it broke a million.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Sweeeeeeeeeeet.It could be like the Vita and only count for units. -500 on you and -2K on everyone else?
No. I am not even being coy. I have no idea how Ouya did.
Wii U's sales later this year will be dependant on many factors
1)Possible 50$ cut
2)Black Friday bundles (if they're going to do them)
3)Software deals, like the SMTIV one or the European ones (btw, I hope they continue the trend)
4)How much DKC can attract people
5)Advertising: this thing needs freaking advertising
6)Absolutely lack of heat waves; otherwise, Pokémon Centers will be' empty
I fear it won't do as much as Nintendo hopes, at all, but there are still many important factors to consider.
1)Possible 50$ cut
2)Black Friday bundles (if they're going to do them)
3)Software deals, like the SMTIV one or the European ones (btw, I hope they continue the trend)
4)How much DKC can attract people
5)Advertising: this thing needs freaking advertising
6)Absolutely lack of heat waves; otherwise, Pokémon Centers will be' empty
I fear it won't do as much as Nintendo hopes, at all, but there are still many important factors to consider.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Nor will any other dedicated handheld system ever.
You can look back too, 360 is on fire but boy it didn't start that way. Once the initial early-buyers dries up where do we go? It's also interesting because even in the wider market tablets, phones and PCs are all sliding either on sales or on margins. Losing a ton of money up front on a tablet is the way of life for Android and Apple is losing margins and it sounds like even they are looking to dip into the lower end of things. Hyper competition is really messing up the market from a platform owner standpoint. I feel technological time compression weighs heavily too, some fundamental shakeups may be in order for everyone.
KillerMan91
Member
I really don't think they care that much. If they had cared they would had done price drop for PS3 together with TLOU. Even now the difference is probably something like 20-30k. At this point of gen you just try to maximise profits and you are not fighting for marketshare anymore.
3 years? That hasn't been the case since nearly a decade. 4 years passed between Wind Waker and Twilight Princess, 5 years passed between Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword. Even if they get back to 3 years and will release Wii U Zelda at the end of next year, the new "next gen" Zelda would again only release in the middle of the next generation if Nintendo would indeed release a Wii U successor early. They quite simply can't afford that, the Wii U has shown that they need to get out their big guns quickly if they want to stand a chance.
Skyward Sword released when the Wii was already dying and suffered from relatively low sales as a consequence. If things don't change, the Wii U Zelda will release too late in the life cycle of platform that was never alive to begin with. That's a terrible prospect, this way they can't sell as many copies as they need to have the franchise stay as relevant as in the last decade.
Square2015
Member
35k wiiU?
Ill update my graph comparing it to DC and GC when I get home. I can tell you this it under tracked DC by about 10k for June IIRC
Ill update my graph comparing it to DC and GC when I get home. I can tell you this it under tracked DC by about 10k for June IIRC
I wish a mod could tell us. I mean if they did trust him why can't we have the info in the thread title?
pieatorium
Member
honestly both wiiu and vita need a bigger drop than $50 and need to cram as much "extra value" shit into their bundles as they can (wiimotes,PS+, dowload codes for e-shop/psn etc)
Lol
I doubt DKC will attract many people. It looks to similar to the last game and it really only appeals to people that already have a WiiU (those that bought NSMBU) it should pull off solid numbers though. Banking on just platformers this holiday seems like a bad idea.
Only officially released data makes its way into the title/the op.
Metallix87
Member
I think Wii U needs to drop $80, Nintendo needs to make the Deluxe the standard and drop the Basic, throw in a Wiimote Plus and Nunchuk, AND a free digital download of some random eShop title (maybe Mario 2 USA?), on top of everything already in that bundle.
Wii U's sales later this year will be dependant on many factors
1)Possible 50$ cut $100 before Pikmin 3 would've made an impact. $50 always seemed too little to me.
2)Black Friday bundles (if they're going to do them) :/ Can't wait for it to sell 200K in November like Vita's great BF bundles did, then.
3)Software deals, like the SMTIV one or the European ones (btw, I hope they continue the trend) Small fraction of the userbase would even know about them. That's probably why they can be so substantial.
4)How much DKC can attract people Seriously doubt it can attract much on its own.
5)Advertising: this thing needs freaking advertising $1B advertising might make a dent.
6)Absolutely lack of heat waves; otherwise, Pokémon Centers will be' empty Get it, this time.
I fear it won't do as much as Nintendo hopes, at all, but there are still many important factors to consider.
True, true.
metalslimer
Member
Mods will never put leaks in the op
Edit: DKC is not going to sell to the nsmbu base. If NSMB is not a system seller DK sure as hell isn't. And then 3d world is another platformer.
Nope. Just retail. We'll have to hope for sales information from Sony to get digital numbers.
Man its crazy that Minecraft for the 360 continues to chart so high. Also, you know its a slow release period when BF3 is back in the top 10.
Great news for Nintendo, though its for a system that was going to have long legs regardless.
Good to see TLoU getting its recognition and selling well.
Great news for Nintendo, though its for a system that was going to have long legs regardless.
Good to see TLoU getting its recognition and selling well.
Manmademan
Member
nah, never does. Very rarely will the platform holders put out digital sales info- I think we might get totals for TLOU eventually though, since it's a Sony flagship title.
PreyingShark
Member
Hahaha. Summer does negatively impact the sales of many luxury items but that has a lot more to do with lower disposable incomes due to high electric bills than it has to do with people not wanting to go outside.
Snowden's Secret
Banned
Does this month add at least a little credibility to "Nintendo games sell Nintendo hardware" and give at least a glimmer of hope to the Wii U?
Metallix87
Member
They absolutely did learn. That's why the Wii U launched with a Mario game. Unfortunately, they didn't learn enough to realize you need aggressive marketing and a steady stream of releases.
Saving it for holidays probably but by then a ps3 bundle isn't exactly the most wanted thing since next gen is out the same time
Snowden's Secret
Banned
Wait, think about this--what if the current Wii U situation is after Nintendo course corrected after learning from the 3DS? What would it look like if they hadn't hahah.
PreyingShark
Member
It looks to me that they did learn but managed to screw up the execution beyond anybody's imagination.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Only if you ignore what just happened in Japan.
Nintendo games sell $180-$200 handheld Nintendo hardware.
Manmademan
Member
they're targeting different audiences. casuals and occasional gamers aren't really lining up to buy new consoles at $400/$500. The PS2 continued to outsell the 360 and PS3 for a good, long while.
a TLOU bundle will move units over the holidays.
metalslimer
Member
What kind of idiotic company thinks you need 1 game?
It would have not sold 1.5 million worldwide yet
Petrae
Member
1) Price cut of $50 is mitigated by need for additional storage media. PS4 at $400 is still only slightly more expensive for 500GB than Deluxe WiiU at $300 and its small storage.
2) Black Friday deals could be interesting, though I assume that WiiU will compete with last-gen platforms and price cuts. First-party software not enough of a value proposition.
3) Fair point about software deals. That's good thinking, and yes, I hope they continue.
4) DKC is more mainstream than The Wonderful 101 and Pikmin but more niche than Mario and Zelda. Mario 3D is really the key cog for Q4 performance and interest.
5) I agree on the advertising point. Where are the mall tours, the cool commercials, and the catchy promotions? Get WiiU out into the open and make consumers want it.
6) Hopefully snowstorms and late-fall cold snaps don't keep people home, either.
Come on. Yes, there should have been a bigger bump, but you cannot compare Pikmin 3 to Animal Crossing and other 3DS releases that have been arriving very consistently.
You are really becoming increasingly one note.
Thanks to everyone who made this possible, as always.
AC is looking mighty fine.
Request for clarification:
Nintendo sold a limited amount of Animal Crossing 3DS, which come with a code to download the game. If I understand this correctly, NPD will not count these towards the AC numbers, but Nintendo will. Does Nintendo count them as physical release or as eshop download? Both are technically true. Just wondering how much info we can massage out of the numbers and percentages we get.
AC is looking mighty fine.
Request for clarification:
Nintendo sold a limited amount of Animal Crossing 3DS, which come with a code to download the game. If I understand this correctly, NPD will not count these towards the AC numbers, but Nintendo will. Does Nintendo count them as physical release or as eshop download? Both are technically true. Just wondering how much info we can massage out of the numbers and percentages we get.
Metallix87
Member
Nintendo, I guess. I just remember, when 3DS launched, a constant stream of "Where's Mario?" being asked everywhere, and I believe even asked to Iwata at meetings and such, so I'm not surprised that they thought Mario was what was needed.
It indicates big Nintendo games sell Nintendo hardware by a significant amount.
I don't think many people realize this but if it were not for Wii sports + Wiimote super combo the Wii would have probably ended up like the WiiU only less worse. But because the Wii was a mega hit Nintendo thought everything was fine and no changes were needed, that gives us the WiiU.
Metallix87
Member
Hopefully, Nintendo has a team hard at work on Animal Crossing U, so it'll be out before the the end of 2015.
Nothing happened in Japan. Pikmin has never been a major release that boosts hardware sales. This time around it's just unreasonably expected to move hardware, because there's nothing else on the horizon that could have an effect.
metalslimer
Member
People weren't asking where's the 3rd 2d Mario in 3 years that is barely different visually and does nothing significantly new. Nintendo is consistently overetimating themselves, but luckily they should know by now people are buying their shit
Hopefully not. Animal crossing works better as a handheld game. That team should be working on a new ip for wiiu.