NPD Sales Results for September 2014 [Up1: Smash/HW/MK8, Destiny stats, 3DS HW]

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SwiftDeath

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destiny *retail standalone* sells more on xbone.

bungie are parity confirmed.
Top 10 Software Chart doesn't include bundled sales of which there was enough to push PS4 sales of Destiny 26% higher than XB1 sales of Destiny overall across retail standalone and bundled sales
 

ZSaberLink

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They are fine?

Please! Ok they arent Wii U tragic but they got smashed by the PS4.
284K is pretty good in all honesty. PS4's #s are 2nd best in a September EVER. Kind of unfair to say the XB1 did badly just b/c the PS4 did that amazingly this month.
 

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Reading other posts, I'll try to analise Destiny sales later, but...again, I'd love to get some updated LTDs for the following titles

- Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (since MH4G just came out in Japan and it's a Q1 release in US, just to get some perspective)
- Bravely Default (Agnés: Not having datas about it is unacceptable)
- Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
- Tomodachi Life (it's doing very well in Europe, but it's been two months since the last update from US)

I hope we get them :)
 

Dragonborn

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i don't know about extraordinary, but you'd be a fool if you think it wouldn't help sell xbones
White PS4 sold because it was a white PS4 and Destiny. The White X1 bundle is not a PS4 and SO is not Destiny.

What I wonder is why the heck MS didn't save the white console and bundle it for $399 with CoD.
 
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284K is pretty good in all honesty. PS4's #s are 2nd best in a September EVER. Kind of unfair to say the XB1 did badly just b/c the PS4 did that amazingly this month.
284k is not good at all in an essentially two-console market. The advertising budget, I presume, must have been huge in September and the deals they have been offering.

I mean Xbone getting outsold by 270k. Which means there is more or less a 1 million gap between the consoles in NA alone now.

MS need to slash at least $75 off the price to compete. I think a $50 price cut is incoming before Xmas.
 

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I won't, although the handful of followers I have on twitter probably read neogaf in the first place. But do you mind if I ask why the secrecy? Not trying to be awkward, but I'm new to this whole npd game.
We want to keep getting leaks, right?

When people post massive leak summaries + disseminate the data all around the Internet, it puts a lot of attention on GAF.

We want to reduce GAF's notoriety with these kinds of things by obfuscation.

Generally you can help by not reposting NPD numbers all around the Internet...it helps a lot with being able to continue to post leaks in the future.
 

SwiftDeath

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I just can't bring myself to seeing the MCC as a big system seller, however what I do think is that MS is going go in big time in Nov. While the MCC itself might not move as many systems, I could see some mad BF deals happening that really get things moving.

Like you said, what MS must fear the most at the moment is the network effect kicking in more and more. It's how the 360 came to dominate NA last gen. So I think they will do their best to slow down the PS4.

With that said, the reason I believe the PS4 will win November is because I think Sony is going to impress with some good deals of their own. A lot of people seem to expect that they'll sit back and do nothing while MS is giving away multiple games and cutting prices. I don't think that'll be the case and I don't think Sony will be complacent. They know they're ahead, and they know that they can't let momentum slow down now. They also must know that MS is going to be pushing hard. So far, they've marketed the PS4 excellently and I don't see why that would change in November.
Over the past couple of months I've wavered from believing that MS had a stronger chance of winning November than Sony to currently believing it's fairly unlikely Mcirosoft wins November.

Anyone who is interested in buying a COD game is almost assuredly going to know it's available on PS systems too as has been the case for like 10 years whereas new IPs like Watch Dogs and Destiny might've convinced a few people that it's actually exclusive. So while I think COD and the co-marketing will boost XB1 sales for November I'm not sure it will be a crazy strong effect relative to PS4's gains. Nor do I suspect SO will be some large game which is unfortunate. The white bundle should sell well one would hope although we've heard in this thread that some stores have more pre-orders for the COD bundle than the SO bundle which is crazy because of the price difference and what you get. Halo MCC will sell great to the existing installbase and certainly bring in some new players but I doubt it will be a great amount.

Sony will garner more from every multiplatform release that's not co-marketed and Far Cry 4 should help. I doubt Driveclub does anything really interesting as it doesn't seem to have a lot of advertising although I guess Rushy claimed higher than projections which might be good. GTAV if it has a PS4 bundle in the US should do a lot to elicit adoption I think but even just co-marketing has potential.
 
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MANY people don't have any idea.

That's why Chartz admins are so rich. Thousands upon thousands of people just blindly visit their site because they think Chartz numbers are "pretty accurate."

News flash: they're not.
When creamsugar posts numbers here and someone repeats those numbers on the forums there, everyone knows it's from creamsugar. Most forum posters talk about how the ******** numbers are BS but they still post there because the community is actually great. Unlike a GAF thread, you know who you're talking to, you know when someone's replied back to you. It's easy to go the last unread posts. Best of all - people don't on their high horses there.
 

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yes. this will probably be its peak year. 2015 will likely be stable or a slight/noticeable decline.
Hm.. with that YoY and last year's numbers, you'd have approximately 75K, 332K, and 716K for the rest of the year. I'd be ok with that December # at least.

When creamsugar posts numbers here and someone repeats those numbers on the forums there, everyone knows it's from creamsugar. Most forum posters talk about how the ******** numbers are BS but they still post there because the community is actually great. Unlike a GAF thread, you know who you're talking to, you know when someone's replied back to you. It's easy to go the last unread posts. Best of all - people don't on their high horses there.
The people on that site have no responsibility since they aren't the original sources. You want these nice GAF folks to get shut down or in trouble? They're not on high horses. They're being careful.
 

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People keep forgetting that these Destiny splits are only for US, just think what are the percentage in the RoW i bet PS family will cover at least 65% of total Destiny sales, looking only at NPD numbers and judging Sony-Destiny deal is wrong imo since EU market is as big as NA not to mention smaller ones that add up in Sony's favor
 

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We want to keep getting leaks, right?

When people post massive leak summaries + disseminate the data all around the Internet, it puts a lot of attention on GAF.

We want to reduce GAF's notoriety with these kinds of things by obfuscation.

Generally you can help by not reposting NPD numbers all around the Internet...it helps a lot with being able to continue to post leaks in the future.
I see. Thanks for the explanation. I had no idea that the sales numbers were leaked and I now understand the reasoning for the secrecy.
 

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Only if you don't post them on Twitter!
Gotta wonder if putting the numbers behind the email tag is a better idea. Knock lurkers on the head.

I'm assuming we have no Vita number because it's spectacularly high and would draw far too much attention. That's what I'm going with.
 

Aquamarine

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Gotta wonder if putting the numbers behind the email tag is a better idea. Knock lurkers on the head.

I'm assuming we have no Vita number because it's spectacularly high and would draw far too much attention. That's what I'm going with.
Vita sold

email tags

 

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Where are Forza numbers? Or is that next months NPD?

Top 10 Software Chart doesn't include bundled sales of which there was enough to push PS4 sales of Destiny 26% higher than XB1 sales of Destiny overall across retail standalone and bundled sales
White PS4 saves Bungie confirmed.

;)
 

SwiftDeath

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Gotta wonder if putting the numbers behind the email tag is a better idea. Knock lurkers on the head.

I'm assuming we have no Vita number because it's spectacularly high and would draw far too much attention. That's what I'm going with.
333% MOM increase. Not even the PS4 could accomplish such a feat

White PS4 saves Bungie confirmed.

;)
lol PS4 does look quite nice in white I must admit

As does the XB1 actually
 

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Gotta wonder if putting the numbers behind the email tag is a better idea. Knock lurkers on the head.

I'm assuming we have no Vita number because it's spectacularly high and would draw far too much attention. That's what I'm going with.
Yup, I mentioned that earlier. It would help with anonymity for the leakers, no? That way no one outside GAF can link to their posts as they won't see anything there
 

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vita ytd 2014: ~ 169,000
vita jan-sep 2013: 277,000
vita feb-sep 2012: ~ 850,000 (launch was in february)

wii u ytd 2014: 730,000
wii u jan-sep 2013: 463,000
 
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Hm.. with that YoY and last year's numbers, you'd have approximately 75K, 332K, and 716K for the rest of the year. I'd be ok with that December # at least.



The people on that site have no responsibility since they aren't the original sources. You want these nice GAF folks to get shut down or in trouble? They're not on high horses. They're being careful.
I'm not talking about creamsugar - he barely posts here but there are a lot of posters here who think they're better than others simply because they post here.

In any case, I'm sure NPD is well aware that numbers are leaked on this forum. The relatively vague numbers are posted anonymously so I don't see how it'll get any leaker in trouble (creamsugar and aquamarine).
 

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Do we have any Vita numbers?
I observed the availability on nowinstock and it was always in Stock. On Amazon it was charting between the 50th and 150th position or so for the whole september. Considering the months with supply constraints I expected Vita to be 10k-20k for september
 

Aquamarine

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Do we have any Vita numbers?
I observed the availability on nowinstock and it was always in Stock. On Amazon it was charting between the 50th and 150th position or so for the whole september. Considering the months with supply constraints I expected Vita to be 10k-20k for september
Vita hardware:

email tags, quote to see, no chartz lurkers allowed

 

Dragonborn

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Over the past couple of months I've wavered from believing that MS had a stronger chance of winning November than Sony to currently believing it's fairly unlikely Mcirosoft wins November.

Anyone who is interested in buying a COD game is almost assuredly going to know it's available on PS systems too as has been the case for like 10 years whereas new IPs like Watch Dogs and Destiny might've convinced a few people that it's actually exclusive. So while I think COD and the co-marketing will boost XB1 sales for November I'm not sure it will be a crazy strong effect relative to PS4's gains. Nor do I suspect SO will be some large game which is unfortunate. The white bundle should sell well one would hope although we've heard in this thread that some stores have more pre-orders for the COD bundle than the SO bundle which is crazy because of the price difference and what you get. Halo MCC will sell great to the existing installbase and certainly bring in some new players but I doubt it will be a great amount.

Sony will garner more from every multiplatform release that's not co-marketed and Far Cry 4 should help. I doubt Driveclub does anything really interesting as it doesn't seem to have a lot of advertising although I guess Rushy claimed higher than projections which might be good. GTAV if it has a PS4 bundle in the US should do a lot to elicit adoption I think but even just co-marketing has potential.
Agreed on all counts. You know, I just don't understand why MS wasn't able to secure a $399 CoD bundle. I feel that could have really helped out a lot. Driveclub, I think, won't do too hot in NA, but it'll have alright WW sales.

At this point the GTAV bundle really is sort of a wildcard. If Sony brings it over and say prices it at $399 for BF, then there's no way they don't win, unless MS has some seriously amazing deal under their sleeve (which wouldn't surprise me). Imagine a $350 X1 with MCC and a year of gold, maybe even an extra game thrown in (SO or FH2)? Hell, if they have that deal I will buy one this year
 

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Holy shit!

I was expecting good numbers from Microsoft, getting demolished by that amount is crazy.
280k is pretty good.


PS4 just killed it this month. Did not expect that. I was thinking somewhere in the mid 300k range and was being optimistic.


A missed opportunity for 3rd parties and Sony not having more PS4 bundles this holiday but I guess MS needed to go on a spending spree to try turn things around. The 2 bundles they will probably have (GTA and Far Cry) will do real well.

GTA is only a remaster but its still GTA. If that thing sells 10% of the last gen version it will still beat most games sales.
 

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Sorry, but you can't speak for all the XBONE fans in Europe. XBONE is still huge, it's still a brand that people know. When the day comes where people don't even know that Microsoft makes XBONE, it's time to pull the plug. And that's never going to happen.
Spain, Germany, France, Italy....
 

Aquamarine

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This email stuff is fun!

Let me give it another try, with some super-precise, ultra-secret, 100% confirmed numbers.


(numbers are in email tags, quote to see, no chartz lurkers allowed)



Wii U sold:





Madden NFL 15 sold:




GTA V sold:














 

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When creamsugar posts numbers here and someone repeats those numbers on the forums there, everyone knows it's from creamsugar. Most forum posters talk about how the ******** numbers are BS but they still post there because the community is actually great. Unlike a GAF thread, you know who you're talking to, you know when someone's replied back to you. It's easy to go the last unread posts. Best of all - people don't on their high horses there.
Because they are misinformed enough to actually give that piece of shit site clicks.
 
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