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NVIDIA DLSS 3.5: Enhancing Ray Tracing With AI; Coming This Fall To Alan Wake 2, Cyberpunk 2077: Phantom Liberty, Portal with RTX & More

NVIDIA DLSS Ray Reconstruction further improves the quality of ray-traced effects, taking image quality and realism to another level.

www.nvidia.com

It appears that Nvidia has made another breakthrough in image reconstruction.

 

[amigastar]

Cool, DLSS is awesome. I feel bad for 2000/3000 series owners.

 

[Zathalus]

Man, Nvidia just keeps pulling away when it comes to reconstruction and ray tracing. FSR3 hasn't even launched yet.

Say what you will about GPU pricing (it's terrible), but Nvidia's software and development is amazing.

 

[hlm666]

Alan Wake 2 and Phanton Liberty first 2 games to use the ray reconstruction by the look.

edit: along with the better image quality it looks like about 8% performance improvement in cyberpunk overdrive mode.

 

[azertydu91]

Man, Nvidia just keeps pulling away when it comes to reconstruction and ray tracing. FSR3 hasn't even launched yet.

Say what you will about GPU pricing (it's terrible), but Nvidia's software and development is amazing.

Yep they do fuck everybody with those cards prices but at least they are putting a lot of work into R&D but damn do we have to wait to get a decently priced gpu from them.

 

[Bernoulli]

Exclusive to rtx 40 cards?

 

[Lupin3]

Cool, DLSS is awesome.

Yeah. It's like lube on Nvidia's fist.

 

[salva]

I bet the timing of them coming out with this is due to the rumblings of FSR 3 around the corner...

 

[TrebleShot]

Wow very impressive.
Sounds like that ray tracing accelerator Sony was working on , what I love about this is , announced and launched within three months.

 

[hlm666]

I bet the timing of them coming out with this is due to the rumblings of FSR 3 around the corner...

It's probably more likely because marketing for phantom liberty and alan wake 2 is going to start to ramp up.

 

[Caio]

Just imagine the performance of the RTX 5090 with DLSS 4. Ok, I'm running to much
If only games were better optimized for these monster GPUs, I would give it a little thought.

 

[timothet]

Wow very impressive.
Sounds like that ray tracing accelerator Sony was working on , what I love about this is , announced and launched within three months.

Even less than that. Phantom Liberty launches in 34 days.

Edit:
Unless it's not launch feature for PL. But then why refer to it as Phantom Liberty, and not Cyberpunk 2077? It's not gonna be expansion-exclusive feature.

 

[supernova8]

Would be cool to get the ray tracing reconstruction separate from the DLSS 3 frame generation bullshit but presumably they're doing this so that they can pseudo-force consumers to buy Lovelace GPUs over Ampere.

Slightly unrelated but why the hell does AMD open source its stuff? It never really benefits them. If (big if) FSR somehow surpasses DLSS in future in terms of quality and AMD keeps it open source, they'll have no software advantage over Nvidia so the default option (assuming pricing is not an issue) would be to buy Nvidia (since you'd get access to their closed stuff plus AMD-developed open source stuff).

 

[nightmare-slain]

Fuck yeah. Can't wait to play Cyberpunk with this.

 

[MadchesterManc]

Not a bad idea really given raytracing, reflections in particular, can noticeably suffer the lower down the DLSS stack you go

 

[Low Moral Fibre]

Phantom Liberty is going to look wild on PC. You can notice noise in the RT so any improvements are welcome and I'll never say no to free performance.

 

[winjer]

I remember nvidia talking about this a few years ago, as the next step for DLSS2.
Quite impressive that they actually managed to do it.

 

[fran.fernandez]

My Nvidia stock up by 8%

 

[bbeach123]

I'm surprise they didnt save this RT reconstruction features for the 5000s series .

I wonder what exclusive features they had for the next 5000s .

 

[RagnarokIV]

This is why I don't buy AMD cards.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Alan Wake 2...day one...can't wait! Let's go 4090! Engage!

 

[Loomy]

Cool, DLSS is awesome. I feel bad for 2000/3000 series owners.

Don't. Nvidia will fuck over 4000 series owners soon enough.

 

[CuteFaceJay]

Exclusive to rtx 40 cards?

if the last one was this one will be. Sad times, Guess I just bin off my 3090 :\

 

[Kenpachii]

Maybe they should start inventing reconstruction techniques for the lack of v-ram on there gpu's.

 

[FingerBang]

My 4090 will last a long time. As much as I hate the shitty pricing of the 4000 series and the tech gatekeeping, they keep pushing graphics tech forward and the rest just follows. This sounds amazing.

 

[Zuzu]

I wonder how many academic papers Nvidia contributes to computer science and software journals per year. They have really smart people working for them.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

 

[Mister Wolf]

Nvidia are the only innovators.

 

[Goalus]

Maybe they should start inventing reconstruction techniques for the lack of v-ram on there gpu's.

The VRAM is not on the GPU.

 

[Zuzu]

This is why I don't buy AMD cards.

Yeah, imo the only cards worth buying are the 4080 or the 4090. Everything else from either Nvidia or AMD (or Intel) is too compromised in some way whether that be VRAM amount, ray-tracing performance or image reconstruction ability.

 

[TVexperto]

this is incredible

 

[Zathalus]

So not only does it give you a boost to performance, it also increases RT quality. Fucking magic.

 

[The Cockatrice]

So not only it improves performance but it also improves pathtracing accuracy? What the fuck, nvidia is like 10 years ahead of everyone, amd/consoles. Say what you want about their scummy prices and ram gouging but tech-wise, none can reach them.

 

[SirKicksalot]

Frame generation is the only thing exclusive to 4000 cards. One of the Nvidia Reddit mods says reconstruction will be available for all RTX cards.

Also Nvidia did not announce anything, this article is based on leaked slides. I guess we'll hear more at Gamescom this week.

 

[Die Namek Ability]

It really is outstanding that they keep pushing this tech forward while already being in pole position in the industry.

Sadly AMD is stuck in 2010, and this is why imo NVIDA is the only gpu option. This is why thier cards cost so much.

 

[damidu]

they are running circles around amd at this point.

hopefully consoles jump ship

 

[Schmendrick]

Man, Nvidia just keeps pulling away when it comes to reconstruction and ray tracing. FSR3 hasn't even launched yet.

Say what you will about GPU pricing (it's terrible), but Nvidia's software and development is amazing.

kinda like apple. they`re greedy assholes who want to control everything you do with things you`re supposed to own after having bought them, but one still has to admit that their hardware is top notch.

 

[SolidQ]

Devs: let's make soap textures/rt
Nvidia: we will make it sharp, let's marketing it!
People: ya cool, super tech

 

[Senua]

Devs: let's make soap textures/rt
Nvidia: we will make it sharp, let's marketing it!
People: ya cool, super tech

Never change SolidQ!

 

[RoboFu]

In 10 years Nvidia will have “ new native rendering technology!! Only in the 1000xx line! “.

 

[VN1X]

It really is outstanding that they keep pushing this tech forward while already being in pole position in the industry.

Sadly AMD is stuck in 2010, and this is why imo NVIDA is the only gpu option. This is why thier cards cost so much.

Yes yes lets give devs even more excuses to not optimize their games.

Fuck me... It's okay you prefer a certain graphics card manufacturer over the other, Nvidia provide a ton of benefits over AMD for sure, but celebrating tech that basically amounts to a band-aid on a more industry wide problem is a bit "eh" to say the least lol.

Saying that though I guess this is the new reality of videogames where the tech people behind them aren't getting any better at optimization because they're not working with the typical constraints that were present in the past.

 

[Honey Bunny]

My 4090 will last a long time. As much as I hate the shitty pricing of the 4000 series and the tech gatekeeping, they keep pushing graphics tech forward and the rest just follows. This sounds amazing.

Until Nvidia arbitrarily blocks your 4090 from their new DLSSwhatever

 

[SolidQ]

Yes yes lets give devs even more excuses to not optimize their games.

Yes, dev too lazy nowdays. They will be always cry not enough power, but i want ask them, how old devs getting fantastic results from PS1/PS2/PS3

 

[shamoomoo]

Would be cool to get the ray tracing reconstruction separate from the DLSS 3 frame generation bullshit but presumably they're doing this so that they can pseudo-force consumers to buy Lovelace GPUs over Ampere.

Slightly unrelated but why the hell does AMD open source its stuff? It never really benefits them. If (big if) FSR somehow surpasses DLSS in future in terms of quality and AMD keeps it open source, they'll have no software advantage over Nvidia so the default option (assuming pricing is not an issue) would be to buy Nvidia (since you'd get access to their closed stuff plus AMD-developed open source stuff).

But what's the point of having gaming features exclusive to one vendor? GPUs should be a little more open as they aren't closed systems.

 

[damidu]

Yes yes lets give devs even more excuses to not optimize their games.

by that logic you should be against new gpu releases altogether, not just specifically dlss

 

[shamoomoo]

So not only it improves performance but it also improves pathtracing accuracy? What the fuck, nvidia is like 10 years ahead of everyone, amd/consoles. Say what you want about their scummy prices and ram gouging but tech-wise, none can reach them.

But reconstruction ray tracing was done in Battlefield when the 2,000 series was announced. Also,that Ratchet & Clank does ray tracing.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Sadly we’ll need this to get playable performance since developers can’t bother optimizing.

 

[GymWolf]

What gains do i get with this tech if i keep rtx off? Just better visual quality compared to dlss3 vanilla?

 

[Zathalus]

Until Nvidia arbitrarily blocks your 4090 from their new DLSSwhatever

Frame Generation is not arbitrarily blocked from the 3000 series. There have been mods to enable it on the 3000 series and it turned out terrible. The white paper makes it clear that the new OFA capabilities of Ada makes it possible with very little image quality loss.

Do you think DLSS can run on the 1000 series as well?

 

[analog_future]

God damn. AMD better get their asses moving with FSR 3