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Nvidia announces Geforce GTX 10 Series - GTX1080 - $599 - May 27th, GTX1070 = $379
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Andronicus
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bought a 980ti ftw last month from evga, could do a step up but i think i'm good
Rumors/Speculation have them announcing at Computex or E3, with availability at the end of June. Unless they miraculously get their cards out before the 1070, I just don't see how they can compete with the Nvidia marketing machine and brand enthusiasts. Even if the rumors are true about big Polaris 10 providing 980Ti performance at $300, it probably can't take back marketshare against the 1070. And competing at the lower end is a non-starter, that market is already saturated with competitively priced products.
Here are Nvidia's internal benchmarks for ROTR DX12 and Witcher 3, 1080 vs 980:
Even with DX11, it'd be worth the upgrade just for Witcher 3, me thinks.
ATOMICJORGE
Member
Right now I have a GTX 970 can someone tell me please how much improvements in terms of performance can I get with a 1070?
BoboBrazil
Member
When are pre-order starting?
Easily. It's plenty fast in the vast majority of scenarios imaginable even without an OC.
Is it all just the "marketing machine and brand enthusiasts" to you?
Not even a shred of actually providing compelling products at convincing price points and/or adding new software features relevant to enthusiasts?
dr_rus
Member
Yeah, feels like a missed opportunity, for using the chip as a less power hungry and cheaper DL machines as well some gaming related optimizations. Would've probably be buried under the FP32 console code though anyway.
Yeah, at this point 1070 basically kills off everything AMD has above 390 (Duo Pro being an exception in more than one way). Polaris will have to come sooner.
"Asynchronouse processing" isn't the reason you're worried for Maxwell's DX12 performance.
980Ti performance for $300 is meh at this point with better performance for $380. Does AMD seriously not have something to compete against Nvidia right now? Waiting on their big HBM2 cards is going to be an eternity, from both makers, probably into Q1/Q2/Q3 of 2017 even... Such a great, but frustrating time.
If AMD replies, they may have something against this. If they don't, they don't have a counter. They can't be dumb enough to let nvidia get the jump again, especially if they have something to counter with.
exmachina64
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Assuming we're talking about cards that aren't overclocked, you're talking about at least a 60% performance increase.
Big Chungus
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wonder if any of these cards will fit my bitfenix prodigy case.
Horsemama1956
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Most people aren't spending anywhere near 380 on a gpu.
SneakyStephan
Banned
It got worse on my 970
Used to only happen at 200 + fps now it starts below that, and for some reason in dying light it even happens at 60 fps
In menus with 500-1000 fps my gpu is basically singing songs
My SSD has coil whine too, so between the two loading screens can make my pc sound like an old 56k baud modem.
Beep booop prrrrrrrrrr tooot
Nvidia can also underprice the 1060 to kill Polaris 10, being safely covered by guaranteed fat profits from 1080.
ATOMICJORGE
Member
All right that sounds great thank you, this is my current card btw and yes I have the stock speed
PR slides and it's a regular 980, the Ti is a pretty good step above the 980 so I don't expect any miracles when we get to real life tests and performance. Excited to see what we get.
Custom cards could be insane looking at the clocks you're able to get out of these babies though.
ViewtifulJC
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^Oh man, are we bringing back terribly generic graphic card box art mascots
Thanks! I am a computer dummy for the most part especially getting into all this kind of stuff.
Paragon heroes are ehh for sure. Game looks super purty though. Some of the other hero designs look pretty neat.
Dreams-Visions
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PR slides and it's a regular 980, the Ti is a pretty good step above the 980 so I don't expect any miracles when we get to real life tests and performance. Excited to see what we get.
Custom cards could be insane looking at the clocks you're able to get out of these babies though.
Yea, it seems to be in line with expectations, no? I believe the expectation was about a 25% improvement over the 980Ti, IIRC. The Ti is a good deal more powerful than the basic 980 so it seems to be about right.
Horsemama1956
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Until we see reviews from multiple sources we don't know how fast these cards really are.. People are jumping the gun a little just going off nVidia marketing.
SmartWaffles
Member
1.5x and more for a 970.
Phawx
Member
Guys, wait for reviews on these cards. There is a reason you didn't get a clean % better. There is also a reason that there is a "founders edition"
Yields are bad and performance at the same TDP of a 980ti is 30-40% better. Edit: based on their shitty graph. I'm assuming a 980ti is a "3.5" on their graph.
Wait for HBM2. You can stay on team green, but just wait for HBM2
Do you have a source for these figures you're throwing out?
Yields are bad and performance at the same TDP of a 980ti is 30-40% better. Edit: based on their shitty graph. I'm assuming a 980ti is a "3.5" on their graph.
Wait for HBM2. You can stay on team green, but just wait for HBM2
Do you have a source for these figures you're throwing out?
exmachina64
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All right that sounds great thank you, this is my current card btw and yes I have the stock speed
Cool, good luck with your upgrade!
icecold1983
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Looks like 1080 is ~20% faster
Gormenghast
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The question is the relative performance of the 1070, because not only it has quite a bit less overall power, but also the older memory AND a lower bus width.
So it's likely the gap to the 1080 increases, and that means it will be faster than a 980, but probably not reaching a 980 Ti.
So it's likely the gap to the 1080 increases, and that means it will be faster than a 980, but probably not reaching a 980 Ti.
My 750w will be more than fine.
Well yeah, I'd love to see some legit benches first too. Just last time I screwed myself waiting, took months to get the card then lol. I'm probably going 1080 as of now, so that one may have more availability, but that 1070 is going to go fast, meaning stock is going to go fast. You're going to have to leap of faith for that thing.
Vulcano's assistant
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how many inches was it?
What exactly is a founders edition and why do they cost more?
Some of us have just been waiting for too long, my dawg. Way too long.
Phawx
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A "founders edition" is what a 1080 was supposed to be when they taped them out. If 10% of the chips they get back are what they are supposed to be, they bin those chips as "founders edition". If 30% of your chips are working but can't clock to what you scheduled, you bin those as the "regular" edition. If 40% of your silicon is only partly working, you make 1070 "founders editions" and if 20% is just garbage, you make those 1070s.
roadrunn3r
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Nyteshade517
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I would guess around 160W for the 1070, so yea you will be fine.
the 1070 is 150W I believe