How is this even related to that "unprecedented partnership"? Honestly it's a pretty stupid comparison to make.
A few months after launch and the Switch won't have a GPU anymore.
How is this even related to that "unprecedented partnership"? Honestly it's a pretty stupid comparison to make.
The fact that Nvidia are including Nintendo's business in their Gaming division, rather than their IP licensing division, would indicate that Nvidia are handling manufacturing and selling the final chips to Nintendo, rather than Nintendo licensing the design and handling manufacturing themselves (which was their arrangement with AMD for Wii U's GPU).
Idk why but the way he's talking about it makes me think it will indeed be powerful.
Specifically the "amazing console" and "everyone will be amazed by it" parts
Cool.
Cause after the Switch fails, Nintendo will go back to making traditional consoles, with the next one featuring the equivalent of an Nvidia GTX Titan X graphics card.
Yeah as long as Nvidia doesn't burn them like they did MS and Sony I'm sure it'll be a great relationship. Problem is, Nvidia 2 for 2 on screwing platform holders and Nintendo is definitely on the back foot already
But guys, consoles have no Margins. It's beyond Nvidia!
As long as Nvidia continue to develop newer versions of Tegra, I can believe it. Nintendo are done with AMD and IBM as they are not interested in developing traditional consoles anymore. They've been using ARM since the Game Boy Advance, and the Nvidia + ARM combination of Tegra is perfect for Nintendo going forward.
Once Nintendo chose Tegra as the basis for their new architecture and with the declared score of building an ecosystem around one platform from now on it was pretty course that this collaboration is meant to be for the long term unless Nintendo leaves the hardware business.
It's nice to see Nvidia so enthusiastic about Switch, maybe even more than Nintendo.
Also, Nintendo contributing to the gaming income lends credence to that rumour about Nvidia having a big fab contract with TMSC that they were trying to get rid of and that driving a good deal for Nintendo.
"Today we would like to announce our new product with AMD, The Nintendo Change".
Then Nvidia goes on to develope the Fun Center console on their own and sells 150 million units.
Yeah, unfortunately. This is also what happened to IBM's PowerPC line, Nintendo was the only one left keeping it alive. Though in this case Tegra being 'less popular' isn't really that big of an issue as it is still just an ARM CPU housed with an NVidia graphics core. I could even see Nvidia design Tegra chips just for Nintendo if they pulled them out of retail.
That was speculation, not a rumour (I should know, I was the one who speculated it). I don't think it tells us anything about that, though, just that Switch is earning Nvidia a non-trivial amount of revenue.
I don't really see any general-purpose Tegra SoCs going back on the market, or any new Shield devices. I think their contract with Nintendo has basically eliminated the need for them.
Not that I expect Nintendo to do so, but there's nothing theoretically stopping them from re-entering the home console arms race with a custom Nvidia chip. Modern ARM cores are more than competitive with what AMD & Nvidia are using, and they can use as powerful a GPU as they're willing to spend the money on.
It seems to be the case that the old Tegra division has been effectively split in two. One half is now grouped in with the Gaming division and seems to be solely responsible for working with Nintendo, and the other half has been spun off into the new Automotive division, which is responsible for Parker, Xavier, etc. I don't really see any general-purpose Tegra SoCs going back on the market, or any new Shield devices. I think their contract with Nintendo has basically eliminated the need for them.
Interesting. Hope this goes smoothly if it is the case.
NVidia has an awful history within the console market, an it goes guther back than the original Xbox. They were riding off the success of the Sega Saturn with their first graphic's chip, but it was a failure. Their second graphics chip was being designed for the successor to the Sega Saturn. But was killed by Sega. Maybe this time things will be difference when teaming up with Nintendo?
Right, that was speculation. My point is that Nintendo traditionally use their own manufacturers for the chips so to get them from Nvidia there must have been some strong incentive. And why would Nvidia give Nintendo a better deal for the chips than for licensing? That could be a good reason for both.
I guess Nintendo finally understood it, Microsoft ans Sony already did that, from now on they'll all stick with one common architecture, they'll upgrade it after a few years like Sony did with PS4 Pro and Microsoft will do with Scorpio, that means no more backwards compatibility problems for the future and faster technological progress.
I guess that's what Nintendo wants to do too, Switch successor will be another Nvidia chip based device, compatible with all Switch games, and the old Switch will still be able to run newer games too for a while, even if with lower resolution/frame rate.
That's the future and to me it makes perfectly sence, it's time to stop having to start from the scratch every gen, technology allows that now
What do you mean finally? You mean Sony and Microsoft finally understand this. Nintendo has been doing this since 2001 with the GC
Ah, I didn't know that this already happened. I don't really keep up with what is happening within Nvidia.
I wonder how the Switch upgrades will go. Switch Pocket, Switch Ultra, Switch 2s, Switch Edge.
Switch Blade
Not really, cause Game Cube couldn't play Wii games, and Wii couldn't play WiiU games, instead being the same architecture Xbox One will still play Scorpio games, like PS4 already play PS4 Pro games too. Also those console had backward compatibility cause they integrated their predecessor CPU inside, like the first PS3 model did too, which is pretty different than being able to play old games cause they actually run on the new architecture, since that architecture is the same as the old one but more powerful
I wonder how the Switch upgrades will go. Switch Pocket, Switch Ultra, Switch 2s, Switch Edge.
Expected - future Switch devices will be based on the current architecture to maintain full BC to previous generations and hardware.
I wouldn't be surprised. Nintendo is supposed to keep Switch architecture for the years to come. Makes sense they stick with Nvidia for a while.
If the Switch fails, Nintendo will exit the hardware business.
Nintendo will go 3rd party in two decades.
LOL if you believe that. There's a higher chance of Sony & Microsoft exiting the gaming industry before Nintendo will.
Dedicated consoles will go on for as long as the human race still games. Be it an 'era' or otherwise, there will always be a market for dedicated gaming consoles.
AMD is gonna be that jealous ex real soon
A few months after launch and the Switch won't have a GPU anymore.
Its an easy progression for Nintendo. I mean Xavier is expected to come out around the beginning of 2018 if it stays on track and I am sure they have work in progress on whatever comes after Xavier.
Nintendo can eventually sell an Xavier Dock or something to go with the Original Switch and at the same time release an updated switch itself based on Xavier etc. just have a constant chain of upgrading available over the years
Tegra business increased by ~60% Y/Y in the last quarter for NV, based primarily on automotive sales.Guess this will keep tegra alive then, given no-one else cares.
Feel free to look at the financial results of console-less NV and increasingly console-enriched AMD over the past 5 years.But guys, consoles have no Margins. It's beyond Nvidia!
Tegra business increased by ~60% Y/Y in the last quarter for NV, based primarily on automotive sales.
Its an easy progression for Nintendo. I mean Xavier is expected to come out around the beginning of 2018 if it stays on track and I am sure they have work in progress on whatever comes after Xavier.
Nintendo can eventually sell an Xavier Dock or something to go with the Original Switch and at the same time release an updated switch itself based on Xavier etc. just have a constant chain of upgrading available over the years
Not that I expect Nintendo to do so, but there's nothing theoretically stopping them from re-entering the home console arms race with a custom Nvidia chip. Modern ARM cores are more than competitive with what MS & Sony are using, and they can use as powerful a GPU as they're willing to spend the money on.
- The fact that Nvidia are including Nintendo's business in their Gaming division, rather than their IP licensing division, would indicate that Nvidia are handling manufacturing and selling the final chips to Nintendo, rather than Nintendo licensing the design and handling manufacturing themselves (which was their arrangement with AMD for Wii U's GPU).
Isn't that what fucked up OG XBOX?Interesting. Hope this goes smoothly if it is the case.