Same here. What version did you get?
Anyone what the usual turnaround time for EVGA Step Up program is from your experience?
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Same here. What version did you get?
Anyone what the usual turnaround time for EVGA Step Up program is from your experience?
I almost sold my 970 too,but now I am just going to wait and see what the Rx is really about.
Unknown Soldier
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Pages being up means you can use this:
https://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/gtx1070/
Which is right now showing this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=6202798&SID=
QuantumSquid
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Has anyone ever preordered a video card that was on backorder from Newegg before?
They're letting people do it for the ASUS, PNY and Zotac Founders 1070s but I don't want to do it if it's going to take forever for them to restock and send one to me.
They're letting people do it for the ASUS, PNY and Zotac Founders 1070s but I don't want to do it if it's going to take forever for them to restock and send one to me.
spazchicken
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I have absolutely no idea. It can't be longer than a couple of weeks though right? One run and when they are out of stock, start selling the regular ones?
Best case scenario is that they sell them both at the same time with limited runs of the founders edition for people who want that.
I think AIBs are forgetting just exactly why 970 was popular (price/performance ratio) and will get burned by their price fixing scheme.
350 for a GPU is hard to swallow for a lot of folks. 500 is straight up insane.
QuantumSquid
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Haint
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Right, there is a literal chasm between the ~$300 the 970 did most of its volume at (discounts/sales were extremely common + free games) Vs. the $450+ all the 1070's are trying to charge. This is going to do a fraction of the numbers the 970 did unless the price points plummet. I have to think there are serious production issues though to be doing this. Hard to fathom they're stupid enough to believe there's any sizable market for nearly $500 second rate cut down cards. That may work for the people who've gotta have the best and are willing to pay out the ass for it, it's not gonna fly in the value conscious X70 sector who are knowingly second class citizens buying third tier cards. And before anyone points to "10 minute sell outs", it's meaningless without actual numbers. If a store servicing the entirety of the internet received 50 units and sold out in 5 seconds, that's evidence of nothing but an extreme shortage. A successful GPU model goes on to sell millions of units, not 5,000 or 50,000.
But its not though. The PC gaming market has grown way bigger over the last two years with streaming and youtubers and everything. PC is the sleeping giant that Sony and Microsoft are very very afraid of and doing everything they can to compete with. With such huge growth, there are heaps of people who will pay higher prices to get the latest hardware, and unforunately long time PC fans on a budget have to grin and bear it. The 1080 is selling out everywhere and the 1070 will too. The 970 was a huge seller for at least 1.5 years of its life. The worst that could happen, is that they don't sell at these prices, and they'll lower it, but they're going to take as much as they can, while demand outstrips supply.
The other thing that makes me sad are the launch prices in Australia for last gen and this gen.
970 - AU$450-$500
980 - AU$800-$850
980 Ti - AU$1000-1200
1070 - AU$780
1080 - AU$1200
The x70, x80 have effectively jumped one tier of pricing.
Unknown Soldier
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The 1070 has no competition from AMD whatsoever in it's price range and will happily sell the same millions of units the 970 did. $380 isn't this huge jump from the $330 launch price of the 970, that's the price of one game. There's always going to be price gouging and scalping at launches, and the presence of the Founders Edition complicates matters, but the reality is in a month or so the 1070 will be $380 everywhere and no one will care about the initial launch pricing and sales will take off just like with the 970. Probably more than the 970, since AMD has committed to not contesting the market above the $200 price point until 2017.
opticalmace
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MSI Twin Frozr in Canada, maybe a placeholder price but... $650 CAD.
http://m.ncix.com/products/sku/132423
http://m.ncix.com/products/sku/132423
Haint
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I think I had edited after you quoted to address part of that. "Sell outs" are worthless without actual numbers. Newegg's first shipment of 1080 G1's was 100 units according to their newsletter ad, which would suggest the inventories are probably pitifully low. My point is if someone has $450 to spend on a GPU, they have an extra $200 or $300 for the 1080 or inevitable Ti. $450 is NOT a value proposition, it's not couch cushion savings, or jimmy's pooled birthday money, it's a completely different demographic. Those people have the extra $200 or $300 to buy "the best", and they want the best. A third tier card at that high a premium makes no sense.
CraigerGamer
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1797 boost clock?
The GTX1080 boost is around 1847 or so. That's pretty incredible. Are we going to see the 1080 in a weird place again this cycle?
Haint
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No, the 1080 has a commanding ~30% lead across the board and will clock at least as high as any 1070 (likely even higher) to widen it even further. This is nothing like the 970, which would OC to effectively match a reference 980. A max OC'ed 1070 is going to be like 15% below a reference 1080.
CraigerGamer
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Right, but when all is said and done the price of a 1070 will be 60% less, and receive a card only behind by 2.5% MHz. That's no joke...if these numbers are true of course.
Haint
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The clock is irrelevant, the 1070 has an entire quarter (1/4th) of the chip disabled compared to the 1080. Ultimately the difference is $200, with the base SC EVGA 1070 at $440 and the same 1080 at $650.
The clock speeds aren't important though - they're the same chip so they should run at similar speeds. The important parts are the GDDR5 vs GDDR5X so less memory bandwidth, and the loss of a quarter of the shader units. It's a much more aggressive cut back in performance than with the 970. The 1070 is still obviously better value for money (once prices have calmed down a bit), and the top end card always charges a premium just for being the top end card. But the delta is fairly high in many games.
Generally, the 1070 looks like a great card to play at 1440p/60 at max in many games, but you may need to turn a couple of settings down to get 60fps in demanding games now, and that might increase going forward. But if you want higher framerates at 1440p (eg you have a high refresh Gsync monitor), or you absolutely want to guarantee 1440p/60 at max settings for some time to come, then the 1080 gives you enough performance buffer for that.
Well, the $450 is in another tier (to the $329 offered last time), I get that. But that's not going to stop all these card manufacturers pricing it as high as they can is it? It's in demand right now, and people are going to cough up the money. I mean just check out the 1080 thread and all the people buying the $699 FE card. And sell outs, even small ones are important, because it just means retailers/ebay guys can push up the price further.
With the 1080 still $150-200 away... its a line ball decision for me, at $400 ill get the 1070... The $150-200 is nothing to sneeze at, im wary of spending money on performance i'm not going to see. Like the 1080 might get me 140fps, but i probably won't even notice the difference if i played at 100fps.
Also the GTX 1070 Asus Strix regular and overclock edition prices are out. $429, $449 respectively. It's probably been posted already. Tom's Hardware About $30 more expensive than I was hoping for the base model. Hopefully EVGA, Gigabyte and still bring the goods on pricing.
Stupid Sexy Flanders
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Why does every website I've checked in the UK have it at £460... It's the version I wanted to order
Haunted
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I like how most of the reviews I've seen run with the official nvidia press statement of $380/£330/419€ for their price/performance analysis.
How much worse those price/performance graphs would look if they'd actually use the real life prices the retailers are charging. :lol
I mean, these still are very, very good cards, but there's also an absolute price threshold that shouldn't be crossed and I'd wager that the current 479€+ prices are way above that for a lot of people.
;_;
How much worse those price/performance graphs would look if they'd actually use the real life prices the retailers are charging. :lol
I mean, these still are very, very good cards, but there's also an absolute price threshold that shouldn't be crossed and I'd wager that the current 479€+ prices are way above that for a lot of people.
Meanwhile, in Europe... 479€
;_;
I have to think there's currently a lot of retailers (and AiB partners) trying to cut out a significant chunk of profit on launch hype.
The good thing is that, from what I can see on geizhals, in Austria and Germany at least the 1070 FEs are already not selling out (a day after release). it seems that, as you would expect, the potential audience for 1070 is a lot more price-conscious than the one for 1080.
The good thing is that, from what I can see on geizhals, in Austria and Germany at least the 1070 FEs are already not selling out (a day after release). it seems that, as you would expect, the potential audience for 1070 is a lot more price-conscious than the one for 1080.
Even European reviews? I only see non tax prices listed in USreviews. I think all German reviews for example (that Ive read) have listed the taxed euro priced.
Coulomb_Barrier
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https://www.overclockers.co.uk/search/index/sSearch/GTX+1070/sPerPage/12/sPage/2
Look at these bastard prices.
If this is available for for £350 soonish, I'll be very interested:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...ddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-32c-ms.html
Will go well in my black and white build.
Look at these bastard prices.
If this is available for for £350 soonish, I'll be very interested:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...ddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-32c-ms.html
Will go well in my black and white build.
Yeah seeing Dutch prices pop up. Was contemplating a 1070 for around 350 euro's maybe. It's well over 500. I'm out. Too bad. Guess I'll wait 'till next generation a year or 2 from now. Hopefully my 780 will carry me until then. Or maybe that new AMD card shakes up market prices but I doubt it.
Shadowheart
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Well Fuck.
The 1070 finally got priced in Norway.
A FE will set me back 4495 NOK, which is 543 murican dållars.
That's not 970 money at all.
Any idea how much cheaper the non-FE cards will be?
I would say stay away from the FE overpriced launch. Buy the regular versions coming out later.
Guardian Monkey
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To all thinking the non refs will be less down the road I pulled this from 2014.
"NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 Official MSRP Will Be $299 US Non-Reference Models Will Retail Around $329-$349 US"
I bought a 970 in January this year and there wasn't anything retail under $329 US......What $299 msrp 970s did anyone ever see??
"NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 Official MSRP Will Be $299 US Non-Reference Models Will Retail Around $329-$349 US"
I bought a 970 in January this year and there wasn't anything retail under $329 US......What $299 msrp 970s did anyone ever see??
Prices will drop in the next few weeks and months as AMD cards are released and stock availability isn't an issue.
They are currently just price gauging those who are impatient and/or willing to pay overs.
Don't click this link unless you want to get really pissed off.
Fake edit: Nevermind, it sold out before I posted it but it's still fucking stupid.
That doesn't justify them costing more than the FE. But to answer your question, reference cards and plastic blowers.
Fake edit: Nevermind, it sold out before I posted it but it's still fucking stupid.
That doesn't justify them costing more than the FE. But to answer your question, reference cards and plastic blowers.
Not sure where else to ask this but with the 1070 being too expensive, is it still worth getting a 970 this year? Im on a 2 year old 770 GTX atm, but it doesnt hold 60 FPS on most games anymore. I only want to play on 1080p too, so I wouldnt need the very best of cards. I would want to get atleast another 2 years out of a new card
General Lee
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There's plenty of used 970's floating around, and after RX480 release those will go for <200$. For such a price it would still be an ok 1080p card. Otherwise I'd just get the RX480.
Guardian Monkey
Member
I think there is two parts here one this is a faster card that beats out the old high end for 40% of the cost and also stores need to clear Maxwell stock. I strongly doubt we will see any 1070 under $399 for a long time probably $429 for a while at the lowest.
A 970 will be fine for 1080 unless you need to run super ultra mega at 60 fps for everything. Or are not waiting for vr.
If the 480 lives up to the promisies when benchmarks are released then yes it's worth it.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Maybe you're not looking hard enough.
AIB 970s have been available for around £240-50 for around a year now in the UK.
In the US, there is plenty under $300 on Amazon and cheaper still on Newegg: https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=GTX+970
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
We'll have to wait a little longer than a week or two for prices to come down.
The prices will definitely come down, yeah.
BigBadGiantHand
Member
Well, this hell is almost over. Amazon shipped my FE early this morning and I should have it in hand by tomorrow evening. I know how dumb it was to get a FE, but I really need a graphics card bad. Might sell it on eBay (don't worry, I won't gouge anyone) and buy a 3rd party card when they become more available; I need that sweet overclocking goodness.
PHOENIXZERO
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I bought my GTX 970 SSC in May 2015 with backplate (and two games but those don't count for this) on NewEgg for $339 and a $15 rebate so it was technically under $329.99 in the end, MSRP doesn't mean a lot when AIBs have their own custom coolers and PCBs.
QuantumSquid
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I just want a 1070 with ACX cooler. EVGA has a customer for life out of me, unless MSI releases some super-cheap Twin Frozr 1070 but that's probably not going to happen given how pricy MSI cards have been in the past few generations.
Glass Shark
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At this point I've pretty much accepted that I'm going to have to pay around $450 to get a card instead of $380. I'm not convinced AIB cards are going to go much below FE pricing.
They are releasing one. It wasn't available yesterday though.
My 1070 SC should be here on Thursday. Hopefully ups gets an early delivery going. I was expecting Wednesday with ground.
Braag
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hmm, my current card is "MSI Twin Frozr GTX 770 4GB/OC" and I've been fairly happy with it. Before that I had an Asus GTX 570 which died on me after about 1,5 years so I haven't really bought Asus cards after that. Right now I'm looking at the "MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X" and the "EVGA Supeclocked GTX 1070 ACX 3.0". Either of these look like a good upgrade for me but I don't don't know much about EVGA's cards, are they reliable?
I'd get a new one, never really trusted buying used (especially computer components). But that sounds good, I also have no interest in VR, just good old 1080p.
The RX480 also looks really good and seems to be at a good price, though I always have had Nvidia cards. I'll have to do some investigating
The latter. Nvidia's SLI initially wasn't cross-manufacturer compatible, however this ceased being the case almost a decade ago now.