theytookourjobz
Junior Member
If streaming is the main thing I want should I just grab a Shield 1? Is this $100 (+ controller I suppose) better at streaming my Steam games than the original?
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NVIDIA SHIELD Tablet Officially announced. WiFi: $299/£239.99 - LTE: $399/£299.99
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Fantastical
Death Prophet
You need to learn more about the wonderful world of Windows 8 tablets! You can get tablets with full Windows for really cheap now.
I kinda wish this was a Windows 8 tablet.
three_muffins
Member
Im more comfortable with the Galaxy Tab S 8.4 but i have to admit, for a 8 inch tablet it is not a bad deal. Too bad im not at all into phone/tablet gaming.
Arcade sticks work fine in android. I use them all the time.
Woody Invincible
Banned
This is my question as well. I'm thinking about just getting the regular Shield.
Because there isn't a bluetooth 360 controller, the only wireless ones have a massive dongle with about 2 foot of cable on.
For a laptop, having true wireless is better.
The touchpad is a nice feature and I imagine if it does work on PC it will support Xinput, essntially making it a 360 pad with a better dpad, connection and touchpad.
totally buying one, been waiting for a high end tablet for awhile now and this price.....is unreal. Best bang for buck gaming or no gaming.
Sucks that the controller is so much.....might have to see what app support we get if I can use something else.......would love to use my DS4 on it.
Sucks that the controller is so much.....might have to see what app support we get if I can use something else.......would love to use my DS4 on it.
SneakyStephan
Banned
I get that but the shield was not a tablet
HowardRoark
Member
Is this replacing a new proper Shield? I've been holding out for a new one.
MrBenchmark
Member
exactly just to show here is steam streaming to my Lenovo Miix 2 8
http://1drv.ms/1yX6ccx
quick dirty video but just to show there are other devices that can do same thing
if your all into NVidia though this new tablet is a nice option , options are good.
The controller is not a bonus, it is a $60 optional accessory.
theytookourjobz
Junior Member
Seems like $400 for the Shield tablet with controller and stand or $200 for the Shield 1.
Mainly I'm interested in this as a tablet. I'm kinda done with bypassing iOS limitations and I really love Evernote + Stylus for my lectures. I hardly ever use any Apple services anyway so the switch to Android is intriguing. I'll see for how much I can sell my iPad mini 1 and make a decision when it gets released in Europe.
Fragamemnon
Member
An unspoken point here is that the Geforce Experience->Shield software integration is stable, high quality, and works great for home use. Steam streaming, the closest competitor, was a bit more fussy in my experience. The gamepad mapper for touch games (if you bother to play them) works great and there's much better pairity between the iOS and Google Play stores than there was a year ago. So there's a definite software/support valuation here that I think should be taken into account when comparing them with other tablets.
I'm torn on if I need this-I'd replace a very long in the tooth iPad 3 with this, but I already have the original Shield and don't think I'd use the streaming to the tablet all that much. Definitely a better value proposition for new, and not existing customers on this one.
BTW I have played through most of a 250 hour campaign of modded XCOM: Enemy Within on my Shield with zero issues from my living room. It's been great. My shield gets 10x more play than my other portables because it has what I want-PC games.
I'm torn on if I need this-I'd replace a very long in the tooth iPad 3 with this, but I already have the original Shield and don't think I'd use the streaming to the tablet all that much. Definitely a better value proposition for new, and not existing customers on this one.
BTW I have played through most of a 250 hour campaign of modded XCOM: Enemy Within on my Shield with zero issues from my living room. It's been great. My shield gets 10x more play than my other portables because it has what I want-PC games.
I said that the availability is a bonus. All the advertising is pretty clear that the controller is sold separately.
Reworded, I agree with you. Good list, too. Was just confused originally as that is the first response I read. I thought maybe I was missing a bundle somewhere.
zephervack
Member
Not going to lie, that would be incredible and probably realistic, Im sure they are working on it already.
It's "shitty" because you have to pay $299 for hardware that's not going to get much use if you're only interested in streaming. A streaming-only device could be as cheap as $50.
It's ARM. If it were an Windows 8 tablet it would be a RT tablet, which is even more useless if you intend to game on it. NVidia doesn't have a license to make x86 SOCs, only Intel and AMD do and AMD, which puts W8 tablets into a conundrum: Intel's low-power GPUs aren't quite there yet and neither are AMD's low-power CPUs.
Get a raspberry pi and install limelight. Job done for $50.
I meant a streaming-only tablet with sticks and buttons, like the Wii U gamepad.
Limelight? I know it's a CDN but I'm not sure how it applies to the Pi.
zephervack
Member
Dolphin its in its infancy on Android, you can stream Dolphin from you local beefcake PC, and play like that though.
The sound doesn't seem very good, but this is looking very promising and I think this is the last generation K1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLFWubflLLo
Though I probably shouldn't get my hopes up.
fluffydelusions
Member
Wait. Is this a replacement for the original or just a different device in the product shield line?
I'd love to love this, but I can't figure it out.
I have an OG shield which by the time they sort out all the streaming issues - yes there was, for ages - I almost forgot I owned it. And the screen was so diddy I could barely see what was going on.
Fast forward to getting a Dell Venue Pro 8 and the steam streaming, now this is better. OK, I still think Nvidia's streaming has the edge, I just couldn't figure out how I was supposed to stream and control the Dell. I know that's not why I bought it and the steam streaming was a bonus so I didn't mind, but I felt like the 'I can't hold all these limes' guy however I tried to connect to it, other than sit at a table and put it on a stand.
The same deal with this new Gary Ablett. Powerful, sure. Nice controller, sure. But how am I supposed to move around even just the house and use it, say, curled up on the sofa or in bed, let alone on the move say on a train?
I'm still holding out for the gamevice, but i think that'll be vaporware judging from the lack of information.
I have an OG shield which by the time they sort out all the streaming issues - yes there was, for ages - I almost forgot I owned it. And the screen was so diddy I could barely see what was going on.
Fast forward to getting a Dell Venue Pro 8 and the steam streaming, now this is better. OK, I still think Nvidia's streaming has the edge, I just couldn't figure out how I was supposed to stream and control the Dell. I know that's not why I bought it and the steam streaming was a bonus so I didn't mind, but I felt like the 'I can't hold all these limes' guy however I tried to connect to it, other than sit at a table and put it on a stand.
The same deal with this new Gary Ablett. Powerful, sure. Nice controller, sure. But how am I supposed to move around even just the house and use it, say, curled up on the sofa or in bed, let alone on the move say on a train?
I'm still holding out for the gamevice, but i think that'll be vaporware judging from the lack of information.
Wouldn't hold your breath for a tablet with a decent screen and integrated controller for 50 bucks!
https://github.com/irtimmer/limelight-pi
Fantastical
Death Prophet
I realize that there are many reasons it can't happen, but just in a dream world it would be awesome to have this power in an x86 Wimdows 8 tablet.
Projectjustice
Banned
Which arcade sticks are you using and for what games?
Why is it a shitty comparison? I'll point out the important differences:
- Shield has stylus support
- Shield has K1 SoC
- Shield has SD card support
- Shield does not have NFC support
There's some more trivial differences size, speaker position, cameras and some other things will probably be swept under the rug (color gamut? battery life?). Ultimately everything hinges on the K1 and if you really think that makes a big impact on how you will consume things on a tablet. I'd agree that if I were to buy the most high-end small tablet right this minute, this would be in the running but I'd be surprised if it could maintain that advantage for very long. You could also save $15 and get a 32GB 4G Kindle Fire HDX today for $285 and an S800 could certainly play any Android game full speed, will a K1 change that in the next year? That's what you need to bet on. This is pretty much where the Tegra Note was last year, not bad, but perhaps not good enough. To be truly competitive they really need to cut it about $50 because the only comparison here is last year's models and those are already nearing 1 year old.
zephervack
Member
This is really impressive, cant wait till they get it more stable and more games playable.
Byron Bluth
Banned
Will a PS3 controller connect to this and be usable?
I guess half life 2 and portal
Adam_Roman
Member
How's latency with the Nvidia streaming technology? This would make it so much easier to play PC games on my TV in the other room, and I've been considering getting a tablet soon anyway. I had an HP Touchpad with Android on it, then sold that and upgraded to a Nexus 7 2012 basically for free, but sold that when I got my Galaxy S4. 8 inches seems like a really nice tablet size, since 7 inches was just a bit too small to justify having with a 5 inch phone.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Just so you guys know, I have no idea how well it works but Limelite, the reverse engineering of Nvidia's streaming technology, is available on Android. Have no idea how well it works. I don't have a compatible GPU. 
toxicgonzo
Taxes?! Isn't this the line for Metallica?
I wonder what the battery life is on this?
Baleoce
Member
Half Life 2 and Portal have supposedly been optimized for K1.
Yeah, that's the big question.
It's a good question. Especially since this is essentially a tablet exclusive SoC.
Seriously, because otherwise, this seems to be the best Android tablet on the market right now.
Saint Gregory
Member
If only I hadn't just bought a Kindle...
SmoothRunningGun
Member
This is the issue. If they had some pubs (ea, ubi, acti) on board I would be interested.