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NYT: British and Dutch intelligence report meetings between Russia and Trump team

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Laekon

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Not sure where else to post this, but I tried making a thread regarding this Maddow video going around twitter. It details Trump and Russia ties through his Sec. of Commerce pick, which seems to be the clearest tie I've seen thus far.

New News, New Thread for this too?

https://youtu.be/WX8dgbr5EI8

If only this was done in a way that people would actually watch it. Then it might be useful.
 

RoKKeR

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Don't get excited, the GOP ain't going to do shit unless the pee pee tape gets shown on primetime tv

At this point honestly, something like this is the only way for any of this to materialize. Until then it's like trying to fight a hurricane of stupidity and hypocrisy.
 
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Gutek

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I don't know the political process, but realistically what can happen if a smoking gun is revealed? Can congress and/or law enforcement choose not to do their job and leave Trump alone?

Congress will do jack shit. We could have tape of Trump literally sucking Putins dick, and the Repub congress would do bupkis.
 

Bold One

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How much info and evidence is needed to tip the scales? I need the words 'Treason' spoken aloud in media outlets.
 

Kifimbo

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The Sessions news should ensure he has to recuse himself at the very least.

He's the attorney general and he lied under oath. He should be fired if any of this is true.

I know it's not a smoking gun yet, but what these people are willing to risk to hide the Russian connection is clearly enough to convince me there is something seriously going on.
 
How much info and evidence is needed to tip the scales? I need the words 'Treason' spoken aloud in media outlets.

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Lots of people thought Nixon would never get impeached right up until he did. You'll be seeing lots of stuff like this if this smoke turns into fire.
 

Acorn

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Lots of people thought Nixon would never get impeached right up until he did. You'll be seeing lots of stuff like this if this smoke turns into fire.
Isn't the difference here that democrats have zero power at all and republicans are happy to use him as an avatar to push through their wildest dreams. Plus their base furiously masturbating over every single lie and policy.
 

Steel

Banned
If Britain saves us from Trump while not saving themselves from Brexit it'll be a hell of a thing...
 

Vuapol

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At his Jan. 10 Judiciary Committee confirmation hearing, Sessions was asked by Sen. Al Franken, a Minnesota Democrat, what he would do if he learned of any evidence that anyone affiliated with the Trump campaign communicated with the Russian government in the course of the 2016 campaign.

”I'm not aware of any of those activities," he responded.

DRIP

DRIP

DRIP
 

KHarvey16

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Nothing will happen, he will somehow make everyone dismiss this as another piece of fake news... i mean did you hear all of the applause?, all hope is gone.

You need to pay closer attention. Remember Flynn? Was that nothing? Are multiple ongoing investigations nothing? Is the fact other nations have this intel nothing?
 

Bleepey

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People were sounding the death knells of the major newspapers a few years ago, turns out they're one of the few institutions still doing real work.

This all kicked off cos a site that gives top 10 things you remember as a 90s kid said fuck it let's do this.

Will all this be better as a TV series or movie?
 
A story about Sessions contacting the Russian ambassador last year just broke on Washington Post, too.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...tml?tid=a_breakingnews&utm_term=.3ad8ccf9e551

Oh gosh

Not sure where else to post this, but I tried making a thread regarding this Maddow video going around twitter. It details Trump and Russia ties through his Sec. of Commerce pick, which seems to be the clearest tie I've seen thus far.

New News, New Thread for this too?

https://youtu.be/WX8dgbr5EI8

Oh dear

Oh gosh, oh dear
 
Isn't the difference here that democrats have zero power at all and republicans are happy to use him as an avatar to push through their wildest dreams. Plus their base furiously masturbating over every single lie and policy.

Republicans still have to answer to mid term elections -- and history. If rank and file begin to realise their leaders and the administration can't keep a lid on things they will stop voting as a bloc.

It is easy to assume everyone in the GOP is as well informed as we are with our full time following of twitter trump russia investigations etc but they aren't. Many are not even familiar with a small part of it. As it dawns on them they should decide to get on the correct side of the story. It'll just take time.

Of course if Trump decides on military action against Iran or North Korea, everything will get iced in order to "support our troops". Hopefully Trump pissed off his military enough with that phony display yesterday that they'll tamp down requests to kick start an operation.
 
Nothing will happen, he will somehow make everyone dismiss this as another piece of fake news... i mean did you hear all of the applause?, all hope is gone.

These things take time. Watergate took over two years and Nixon won re-election during that time. This is the first real political scandal of the internet age and people seem to be having trouble with the pace of these things. This is moving at a breakneck speed. It has already cost Flynn his job and things haven't even started yet.

Isn't that the same Ambassador Flynn had to step down from talking to?

Yup. One and the same.
 

The Technomancer

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Isn't the difference here that democrats have zero power at all and republicans are happy to use him as an avatar to push through their wildest dreams. Plus their base furiously masturbating over every single lie and policy.

We're seeing that this actually isn't working out so well for two reasons:

-Turns out a lot of people they elected have no clue what they're doing and no actual ideas what policy looks like

-Also the extremist wing and the...less extremist wing are constantly at each others throats and can't cooperate to get anything done
 

Bleepey

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We've never seen any time travelers because they know we'd never believe them if they tried to explain this shit.

So yeah the Us will elect a black guy over Hilary Clinton
Hell pretty much kick ass, save the country from economic Armageddon
Then Hilary will lose the election despite decades worth of experience
The Internet will disseminate Fox News propaganda on steroids
That's just the tame parts

The shady dude from the apprentice will be elected president.
He'll be the biggest bullshit artist in modern politics
Will be accused of rape
Will have a wife that did porn
Be forced to settle for fraud and sued many times
Will be shown to go bankrupt many times
Won't release his tax returns
All evidence points to him being the manchurian candidate for Russia
Republicans will fall in line
All sorts of shady dealings will leak
He'll put neo nazis in the Whitehouse
There are rumours he's caught on tape saying racist shit whilst getting peed on
Rumours he's caught on tape raping children

45th president of the United States people!

South Park and John le Carre combined ain't got shit on the future

Me from the year 2005 will think I smoked crack.
 

pixelation

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These things take time. Watergate took over two years and Nixon won re-election during that time. This is the first real political scandal of the internet age and people seem to be having trouble with the pace of these things. This is moving at a breakneck speed. It has already cost Flynn his job and things haven't even started yet.

Okey... yes that may be it, in this internet age (we) people have become quite unpatient. This is my first time living through a shit show such as this and my hope is seriously waning.
 

RCSI

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Lots of people thought Nixon would never get impeached right up until he did. You'll be seeing lots of stuff like this if this smoke turns into fire.

The basic arguments for attacking the communications (media) seems familiar somehow...

At this point, there has to be a fire, or evidence of a smoldering fire recently if the dossier is taken into account.
 

TheOMan

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So yeah the Us will elect a black guy over Hilary Clinton
Hell pretty much kick ass, save the country from economic Armageddon
Then Hilary will lose the election despite decades worth of experience
The Internet will disseminate Fox News propaganda on steroids
That's just the tame parts

The shady dude from the apprentice will be elected president.
He'll be the biggest bullshit artist in modern politics
Will be accused of rape
Will have a wife that did porn
Be forced to settle for fraud and sued many times
Will be shown to go bankrupt many times
Won't release his tax returns
All evidence points to him being the manchurian candidate for Russia
Republicans will fall in line
All sorts of shady dealings will leak
He'll put neo nazis in the Whitehouse
There are rumours he's caught on tape saying racist shit whilst getting peed on
Rumours he's caught on tape raping children

45th president of the United States people!

South Park and John le Carre combined ain't got shit on the future

Me from the year 2005 will think I smoked crack.

Guaranteed nobody would believe this.
 
Re: Sessions -- How did fucking Democrats not see that their line of questioning gave him room to evade? You start specific, they deny, you then broaden scope, if they're entrenched in denying, you may catch them in a particularly objectionable lie.

Questioners should have worked towards--"Last year did you have ANY contacts with Russian officials?"

Bush league.
 
So yeah the Us will elect a black guy over Hilary Clinton
Hell pretty much kick ass, save the country from economic Armageddon
Then Hilary will lose the election despite decades worth of experience
The Internet will disseminate Fox News propaganda on steroids
That's just the tame parts

The shady dude from the apprentice will be elected president.
He'll be the biggest bullshit artist in modern politics
Will be accused of rape
Will have a wife that did porn
Be forced to settle for fraud and sued many times
Will be shown to go bankrupt many times
Won't release his tax returns
All evidence points to him being the manchurian candidate for Russia
Republicans will fall in line
All sorts of shady dealings will leak
He'll put neo nazis in the Whitehouse
There are rumours he's caught on tape saying racist shit whilst getting peed on
Rumours he's caught on tape raping children

45th president of the United States people!

South Park and John le Carre combined ain't got shit on the future

Me from the year 2005 will think I smoked crack.

I wish I could wake up from this fucking nightmare.
 

Steel

Banned
Re: Sessions -- How did fucking Democrats not see that their line of questioning gave him room to evade? You start specific, they deny, you then broaden scope, if they're entrenched in denying, you may catch them in a particularly objectionable lie.

Questioners should have worked towards--"Last year did you have ANY contacts with Russian officials?"

Bush league.

I mean, yeah, but I'm just glad they thought to ask the question at all for this to be a big deal.
 
Re: Sessions -- How did fucking Democrats not see that their line of questioning gave him room to evade? You start specific, they deny, you then broaden scope, if they're entrenched in denying, you may catch them in a particularly objectionable lie.

Questioners should have worked towards--"Last year did you have ANY contacts with Russian officials?"

Bush league.

How did Sessions evade the question? He actually says "I did not have communications with the Russians".

https://twitter.com/CAPAction/status/837128474540322816
 
Re: Sessions -- How did fucking Democrats not see that their line of questioning gave him room to evade? You start specific, they deny, you then broaden scope, if they're entrenched in denying, you may catch them in a particularly objectionable lie.

Questioners should have worked towards--"Last year did you have ANY contacts with Russian officials?"

Bush league.

His written testimony is much more clear, and so was the written question.

https://twitter.com/RepKarenBass/status/837133480005931008

he is toast.
 
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