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[Mahonay]

Not to mention they were lied to about it.

Still insane to me that guys like Powell and Cheney were not punished in any way for that.

 

[jacobeid]

He doesn't run anything. He's just a poster boy they bring out every so often.

They should keep him locked in the basement apparently.

 

[SkylineRKR]

Look, lots of us aren't thrilled with Hillary. That image goes around showing that a lot of people are voting her for because she isn't Trump.

But a flawed candidate is better than one I don't trust with nuclear codes. A flawed candidate with baggage is better than a thin skinned tyrant who can't respond to criticism without childish tantrums. A flawed candidate with baggage who has a history of public service is far better than a racist, xenophobic, nationalistic, freedom-stealing narcissist any day of the week. There's not comparison. What good has Trump ever done for this country? Name one thing.

He also fought for his country and created jobs

Spoiler

lol

 

[cyberheater]

He sold Oculus to Facebook, but continues to run Oculus under Facebook.

As other posters have already said. He doesn't run Oculus at all. He got moved to a Founder position.

 

[platocplx]

Maybe we should vote in the guy who lies so routinely about everything, even when easily fact checked or on already well known things. What could go wrong?

And easily influenced by the last person that speaks to him no problem at all! Lol

 

[BlastProcessing]

I'm very familiar with the alt-right. I don't think "white supremacy" is the right word.

Rejection of progressive equality movements, yes. Denial of the effects of colonialism, slavery and segregation on minorities' societal wellbeing, yes.

Keeping the white race pure and not wanting other ethnicities to mingle with whites, no.

If you don't think that the Alt Right is about keeping the white race pure, then no, you are not familiar with the Alt-Right.

The whole point of moving over to the Alt-Right moniker was to rebrand themselves. They are still, very much White Supremacists.

 

[Yoritomo]

Don't you see he's just trying to bring ALL of Ready Player One into reality. Both the virtual worlds and the dystopian fascist reality.

 

[Mahonay]

And easily influenced by the last person that speaks to him no problem at all! Lol

Look. I have the best judgement. The BEST.

 

[AndrewDean84xX]

Look, lots of us aren't thrilled with Hillary. That image goes around showing that a lot of people are voting her for because she isn't Trump.

But a flawed candidate is better than one I don't trust with nuclear codes. A flawed candidate with baggage is better than a thin skinned tyrant who can't respond to criticism without childish tantrums. A flawed candidate with baggage who has a history of public service is far better than a racist, xenophobic, nationalistic, freedom-stealing narcissist any day of the week. There's not comparison. What good has Trump ever done for this country? Name one thing.

Yup. One is the lesser of two evils. It just so happens, the larger evil is way, way, way larger, and dumb. Trump is just a big dummy.

 

[louiedog]

Yup. One is the lesser of two evils. It just so happens, the larger evil is way, way, way larger, and dumb. Trump is just a big dummy.

Even if one mistakenly thought they were exactly as evil, one of them is still immensely more qualified for the job than the other through experience and knowledge.

 

[pronk420]

Is it legal for Facebook to fire him based on this? I think it is pretty clear from the company he keeps, the Nimble America website and funding r/The_Donald, that he is a very unpleasant character, and I really hope Facebook would want to get rid of him.

But in the US is it legal to fire someone for being a daft racist? If I were Facebook I'd be worried about it being misrepresented by the media as him being fired for supporting a political candidate.

 

[Makonero]

He also fought for his country and created jobs

Spoiler

lol

He avoided Vietnam
Oh and those jobs were often unpaid and on shaky ground
And he probably paid them out of his "charitable" foundation, funded by other rich guys

So still nothing

 

[duckroll]

The people here personally attacking those who still want to buy an occulus are the worst...im sorry, but its true.

Still waiting for receipts. Time is almost up.

 

[iamruthless]

One thing I'd love to get a actual reply to

How can a Trump support not be racist? Even if you personally don't have racist thoughts or opinions, you're still supporting a candidate that does. You're still supporting someone that wants to take rights away from minorities. Even if you don't think "Muslims should die", you're still supporting a candidate that wants to murder them.

You're literally ok with taking rights aways of minorities because there's a policy or two from Trump that personally benefit you. You think your minor personal benefit is greater than the basic human rights of minorities. How in HELL IS THAT NOT RACIST? Shit man, in some levels it makes you a much more disgusting piece of shit than the ones that genuinely believe the racist garbage he spews.

I can't stand Trump, but when has he ever said he wanted to murder muslims or take rights away from minorities? I'm curious if that's the general consensus or if he's on record of saying that.

 

[thepenguin55]

Palmer Lucky has always come across as a disingenuous douchebag, but I never would have expected this. Now I kind of hope Bethesda take Lucky to the cleaners. This make the Bethesda suit interesting because don't they have some kind of Trump connection as well? Also, didn't Facebook get into some shit recently because their news feed apparently has some liberal slant to it or something like that? This is all fucking crazy and probably all REALLY bad for VR and Oculus.

 

[Mahonay]

Still waiting for receipts. Time is almost up.

 

[SkylineRKR]

I think lots of figureheads and promoters have clauses in their contract. You can't take risks with such guys. They might have grounds to fire him over political stuff. FB invested billions and has to sell a product.

He avoided Vietnam
Oh and those jobs were often unpaid and on shaky ground
And he probably paid them out of his "charitable" foundation, funded by other rich guys

So still nothing

Yeah but he said such shit during the Khan incident. Hes a tool.

 

[Makonero]

I can't stand Trump, but when has he ever said he wanted to murder muslims or take rights away from minorities? I'm curious if that's the general consensus or if he's on record of saying that.

He's said he wants to kill the families of terrorists. That's innocent Muslims right there. He's advocated for stop and frisk, and racial profiling. He's said he'll bring back water boarding and force soldiers to commit war crimes.

 

[aeolist]

I can't stand Trump, but when has he ever said he wanted to murder muslims or take rights away from minorities? I'm curious if that's the general consensus or if he's on record of saying that.

he said he wants to kill the families of known terrorists

he's also said he would be in favor of forcing muslim registration

 

[besada]

Is it legal for Facebook to fire him based on this? I think it is pretty clear from the company he keeps, the Nimble America website and funding r/The_Donald, that he is a very unpleasant character, and I really hope Facebook would want to get rid of him.

But in the US is it legal to fire someone for being a daft racist? If I were Facebook I'd be worried about it being misrepresented by the media as him being fired for supporting a political candidate.

In most states you can fire someone for any reason you want, unless it's a small number of protected classes, none of which are political affiliation. Places can choose not to serve and companies can terminate employees for their political beliefs here.

 

[MadLaughter]

He's said he wants to kill the families of terrorists. That's innocent Muslims right there. He's advocated for stop and frisk, and racial profiling. He's said he'll bring back water boarding and force soldiers to commit war crimes.

Additionally he's challenged Birthright citizenship, the part of the 14th amendment that makes you an automatic citizen if you are born here.

 

[SmiteOfHand]

Is it legal for Facebook to fire him based on this? I think it is pretty clear from the company he keeps, the Nimble America website and funding r/The_Donald, that he is a very unpleasant character, and I really hope Facebook would want to get rid of him.

But in the US is it legal to fire someone for being a daft racist? If I were Facebook I'd be worried about it being misrepresented by the media as him being fired for supporting a political candidate.

It depends on a lot of things we are not privy to and this is why we are watching for how they respond. Nintendo fired that guy for being a bit too brash on their localization policies on that podcast. A company can absolutely fire an employee for how they communicate and conduct themselves in a public venue.

It is important to be clear that this isn't simply because he is a Trump supporter. That would be disappointing, but whatever, a company cannot, and should not, have the power to take action against you for disagreeing with your political stances. This is a different beast entirely.

 

[AndrewDean84xX]

Still waiting for receipts. Time is almost up.

I haven't read anyone attacking other posters here for wanting an oculus Rift. Just people saying they won't buy one. I wouldn't think less of anyone if they bought one, just like I don't think less of the people that eat at chick fil a.

I might think less of someone if they wanted a Rift because of this person's views though.

 

[Mahonay]

I can't stand Trump, but when has he ever said he wanted to murder muslims or take rights away from minorities? I'm curious if that's the general consensus or if he's on record of saying that.

Are you serious? He has said he wants to deport Muslims and block any more from entering as one of his core campaign stances.

He also said we should kill the families of terrorists.

Additionally he's challenged Birthright citizenship, the part of the 14th amendment that makes you an automatic citizen if you are born here.

And this.

 

[MadLaughter]

 

[platocplx]

I can't stand Trump, but when has he ever said he wanted to murder muslims or take rights away from minorities? I'm curious if that's the general consensus or if he's on record of saying that.

Take away rights from civilians
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...stion-overlooks-major-problems-tactic-n652671

Murder muslims?
http://time.com/4132368/donald-trump-isis-bombing/

Take out their families.

Want more? Its easily found. He doesn't have to directly say i want to kill muslims and take minorities rights away for it to mean that. There are many instances where he alludes to such things.

 

[Seth Enosh]

In most states you can fire someone for any reason you want, unless it's a small number of protected classes, none of which are political affiliation. Places can choose not to serve and companies can terminate employees for their political beliefs here.

Is facebook and oculus based in California? You can't fire someone for their out of office political activity there. https://m.hklaw.com/publications/hey-take-it-outside-politics-in-the-workplace-10-01-2011/

The California Labor Code prohibits any employer policy: (1) limiting workers' participation in politics; (2) barring employees from becoming candidates for public office; (3) requiring workers to adhere to any particular political action/activity; or (4) "controlling or directing ... political activities or affiliations of employees." California law also prohibits adverse action against employees because of "lawful conduct occurring during nonworking hours away from the employer's premises."​

 

[joe2187]

Additionally he's challenged Birthright citizenship, the part of the 14th amendment that makes you an automatic citizen if you are born here.

EXXTREEEEEEEMMMMEEEE Vetting!

We'll vet the best, only the bestest, very bestly.

 

[BlastProcessing]

Are you for real? There are posts from Palmer Luckey going back to the mid 2000's on Ben Heck's forums and MTBS3D. Palmer Luckey is infamous for having the biggest VR collection in the world. Palmer Luckey has been running with VR circles since the early 2000's.

Might want to read up on the guy.

Wait, what? Are you saying that Luckey was working on VR when he was 9 years old? The dude's 24 right now...

 

[pronk420]

He:

-Supports a racist candidate
-Is active on an openly racist subreddit
-started an advocacy group with two people who are open anti-semitic white nationalists
-Put up thousands of dollars in funding for said group, and anonymously represented it on reddit, then openly represented it in an interview with the daily beast
-dates a woman who is an open racist

If you can't gather all that up into signs of a dude being a racist... We're stepping into classic GAF quantum racism territory here.

It feels like people are just wilfully ignoring this at this point. Can the above (esp. bolded, and twitter support of Milo, and the fact that his Nimble America website is openly racist) go at the top of the OP or something?

 

[Mahonay]

 

[Armaros]

Is facebook and oculus based in California? You can't fire someone for their out of office political activity there. https://m.hklaw.com/publications/hey-take-it-outside-politics-in-the-workplace-10-01-2011/

The California Labor Code prohibits any employer policy: (1) limiting workers' participation in politics; (2) barring employees from becoming candidates for public office; (3) requiring workers to adhere to any particular political action/activity; or (4) "controlling or directing ... political activities or affiliations of employees." California law also prohibits adverse action against employees because of "lawful conduct occurring during nonworking hours away from the employer's premises."​

If they do anything it will be a 'voluntary' resignation and give him his good parachute .

 

[iamruthless]

He's said he wants to kill the families of terrorists. That's innocent Muslims right there. He's advocated for stop and frisk, and racial profiling. He's said he'll bring back water boarding and force soldiers to commit war crimes.

Thanks. I'm going to go back and read up on this.

 

[besada]

Is facebook and oculus based in California? You can't fire someone for their out of office political activity there. https://m.hklaw.com/publications/hey-take-it-outside-politics-in-the-workplace-10-01-2011/

The California Labor Code prohibits any employer policy: (1) limiting workers' participation in politics; (2) barring employees from becoming candidates for public office; (3) requiring workers to adhere to any particular political action/activity; or (4) "controlling or directing ... political activities or affiliations of employees." California law also prohibits adverse action against employees because of "lawful conduct occurring during nonworking hours away from the employer's premises."​

Excellent for California, but I don't know if FB is incorporated there or not. Or if Oculus is there, which is who I think he technically works for.

 

[duckroll]

I haven't read anyone attacking other posters here for wanting an oculus Rift.

Neither have I, but I'm sure that poster is an upstanding person who would not make up a false claim to make a strawman argument. I believe in AmuroRX, and I believe there will be evidence provided of such attacks which everyone has missed, within the next 7 minutes.

 

[_Ryo_]

Kinda glad I'm too poor to afford oculus and a gaming PC now...

 

[Mahonay]

Thanks. I'm going to go back and read up on this.

This is stuff he's said on a microphone at press conferences on TV. It's not hidden from view.

 

[Genryu]

Excellent for California, but I don't know if FB is incorporated there or not. Or if Oculus is there, which is who I think he technically works for.

Facebook in incorporated in Delaware, unsurprisingly.

 

[qualitydisc]

I'm waiting anxiously to how Facebook responds to this. There are some very sweaty executives on conference call with their lawyers right now. I imagine they will want to cut all ties ASAP.

Not a good week to be a Skittles or Facebook PR person

 

[Alienous]

I wonder if Zuckerberg has another one of these left in him.

 

[Makonero]

I'm waiting anxiously to how Facebook responds to this. There are some very sweaty executives on conference call with their lawyers right now. I imagine they will want to cut all ties ASAP.

Not a good week to be a Skittles or Facebook PR person

Skittles is fine. Their PR was on point. Facebook...we will see. Hopefully a statement comes soon.

 

[RibMan]

I'd like to think that is over fiscal matters, not social ones. Hard to really say when we have zero evidence one way or the other, as opposed to this info.

There are plenty of really really really popular people who are 100% republican on fiscal and social issues, but due to the "image" they portray and that of the company they work for/are sponsored by, their views and opinions aren't publicized.

What Palmer has done -- based on what has been reported -- isn't cool... at all. It's one thing to actively support your political candidate of choice, but it's another thing to invest and promote extremely sexist and racist messaging. Nobody's perfect, but it's basic humanity to not side with practices and beliefs that dehumanize others.

 

[RustySpoon]

Is it legal for Facebook to fire him based on this? I think it is pretty clear from the company he keeps, the Nimble America website and funding r/The_Donald, that he is a very unpleasant character, and I really hope Facebook would want to get rid of him.

But in the US is it legal to fire someone for being a daft racist? If I were Facebook I'd be worried about it being misrepresented by the media as him being fired for supporting a political candidate.

In most states you can be fired for literally any reason that isn't a class protected by the constitution. Worker protections are laughable in most of the US. Now, if Facebook were to say "we think you're a racist and we're letting you go", that could be in a weird gray area of libel, but they would never do it that way.

 

[Sephzilla]

This makes my selection of future VR hardware much easier since Oculus will no longer be in the picture for me

 

[iamruthless]

This is stuff he's said on a microphone at press conferences on TV. It's not hidden from view.

I haven't really watched any Trump press conferences

 

[pronk420]

In most states you can fire someone for any reason you want, unless it's a small number of protected classes, none of which are political affiliation. Places can choose not to serve and companies can terminate employees for their political beliefs here.

Thats kind of crazy, I think if you did that in the UK it would get the company in a lot of trouble.

 

[Kurdel]

Is facebook and oculus based in California? You can't fire someone for their out of office political activity there. https://m.hklaw.com/publications/hey-take-it-outside-politics-in-the-workplace-10-01-2011/

When you are a spokesperson, a faux pas can and will tarnish your brand and lose tons of money.

This isn't firing him for his opinion, it's firing him because he is now dead weight.

They might also shelf him and make him slave away in silence, but I doubt Luckey will let go of the spotlight thay quick.

Thats kind of crazy, I think if you did that in the UK it would get the company in a lot of trouble.

Ever hear of people being asked to resign?

 

[Makonero]

In most states you can be fired for literally any reason that isn't a class protected by the constitution. Worker protections are laughable in most of the US. Now, if Facebook were to say "we think you're a racist and we're letting you go", that could be in a weird gray area of libel, but they would never do it that way.

Right. The stated reason is always something else. It's very hard to prove why you were fired unless there's obvious documentation.

 

[Mahonay]

I haven't really watched any Trump press conferences

I wish I could avoid them. They are re-broadcasted by tons of different sources.

 

[aeolist]

I haven't really watched any Trump press conferences

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...to_be_president_here_are_141_reasons_why.html