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Oculus Rift and Touch Thread: I need something more
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Yeah I heard a lot of good things about ED in VR. I just tried the demo for Echo Arena I think it is. That was pretty fun going through the tutorial. My issues with heights is coming into play with that a little. Similar to the demo during the setup that had you standing on top of the building. That was a little unsettling.
The Touch controllers are kinda eh at the moment. Sometimes the motions and grips work and other times they don't seem to want to. Kinda wish I had some gloves to be honest and controls were mapped to that. That way when I grip, point, throw, etc it's maybe being picked up better.
BackBackPunch
Member
Something isn't right then, because I have had 0 problems so far with my movements being picked up by the touch controllers (unless I'm facing totally backwards, because I don't have a 360 setup yet). Maybe try running through the sensor setup again.
BackBackPunch
Member
I was playing without the straps around my wrists and slipped and threw a controller into the wall yesterday. Hit about 7 feet up and fell to the floor. Now I make sure to always have the straps on.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
Really? They've worked great for me for months. Maybe it takes some getting used to...I know echo arena does at least. Took me a few hours to get a handle on the controls. Throwing still feels a little off though. I don't know if you can still find a match, but Ripcoil has disc throwing too and that feels great.
Good thing they're really sturdy controllers! I've whacked the wall multiple times, controllers are barely scuffed up at all. My wall has a few little dents in it though.
I'm really enjoying it as well, though I wish there were more than 4 spells. Granted you can modify them, but they don't make a huge difference.
Anyone know how long those Summer Bundles are gonna last? I don't get my rift for a while, but I wanna try the free games (Robo recall, etc) out first before I go buying stuff. Looking at the Summer Adventure bundle, but I'm pretty sure The Climb will make me feel sick. Raw Data might be a bit too fast paced, but I've never gotten to play a VR game that lets you teleport yet. I've only played some GearVR games and none of them that I have let you teleport yourself around. Anyone know any GearVR games that let you do it? I do want the Sports Bar VR and I Expect You to Die though.
Edit: Nvm, I've been super blind. It says 14 days left on the site. lol
Edit: Nvm, I've been super blind. It says 14 days left on the site. lol
Think I got the controllers to work better now. Not sure what the issue was before but spending more time did help. Still not the greatest I think.
Robo Recall is pretty fun. Interesting concept for a light gun game. Was wondering how movement would be and I see it has a teleporting mechanic. Which makes sense. This is a game where the lack of wires attached to the headset would be a gamer changer for it I think. I had to remind myself to slow down or else trip and break something. Full 360 degree movement is indeed the way to go. Sadly Elite Dangerous was still to fuzzy for me in the way Project Cars was no matter what I did to the settings. Going to give it another shot tomorrow though. By contrast Robo Recall, the demo you get with the Touch controllers (with the robot) both look pretty nice. It looked good, clean, and sharp. Its also a lot more simple in it's setup as well so maybe that's part of it but the robots looked really nice as did the weapons. So did all the other tutorials and the Echo Arena beta I mentioned before. I wanted to see the difference between VR games and those with VR support. I was hoping the full VR games would be the better of the two and that seems to be the case thankfully.
Need to do some thinking though about the entire experience this evening/night. Give it another go tomorrow as well and then decide if I'll stick with this. Had a good number of positives tonight but also some negatives and I have to see how they balance out in regard to cost and how often I'm realistically going to use this. I was hoping I'd get a lot of use out of games I have that were VR supported or would be but that's down the drain at the moment and that changes things a lot.
Robo Recall is pretty fun. Interesting concept for a light gun game. Was wondering how movement would be and I see it has a teleporting mechanic. Which makes sense. This is a game where the lack of wires attached to the headset would be a gamer changer for it I think. I had to remind myself to slow down or else trip and break something. Full 360 degree movement is indeed the way to go. Sadly Elite Dangerous was still to fuzzy for me in the way Project Cars was no matter what I did to the settings. Going to give it another shot tomorrow though. By contrast Robo Recall, the demo you get with the Touch controllers (with the robot) both look pretty nice. It looked good, clean, and sharp. Its also a lot more simple in it's setup as well so maybe that's part of it but the robots looked really nice as did the weapons. So did all the other tutorials and the Echo Arena beta I mentioned before. I wanted to see the difference between VR games and those with VR support. I was hoping the full VR games would be the better of the two and that seems to be the case thankfully.
Need to do some thinking though about the entire experience this evening/night. Give it another go tomorrow as well and then decide if I'll stick with this. Had a good number of positives tonight but also some negatives and I have to see how they balance out in regard to cost and how often I'm realistically going to use this. I was hoping I'd get a lot of use out of games I have that were VR supported or would be but that's down the drain at the moment and that changes things a lot.
Chairmanchuck
Member
Got my Touch now after having my Oculus for over 1 year and its a gamechanger.
It totally sucks though you need a 3rd sensor for Roomscale games. Every time I turn around or even try to get something from the ground, where the sensors dont reach (since both are on my desk) it loses the connection.
I also wouldnt know where to put a 3rd sensor without having a cable running straight throug my room.
It totally sucks though you need a 3rd sensor for Roomscale games. Every time I turn around or even try to get something from the ground, where the sensors dont reach (since both are on my desk) it loses the connection.
I also wouldnt know where to put a 3rd sensor without having a cable running straight throug my room.
xCaptainCanadax
Member
You should try cleaning up your oculus guardian with this tool.
https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/6iezwq/guardian_boundary_editor_customizestraighten_your/
I was able to fine tune my guardian a little better with this than I was by just free outlining it with the touch controller so I have a better sense of space past the guardian to the wall. I also put a little zig zag on the wall that faces north so I know which way im oriented in the room.
5 of discount is nothing, not worth the gamble imo.
It's only $5 bucks, but after seeing the quality of Echo arena I decided to pre-order Lone Echo.
I would have likely bought it regardless of reviews unless they are completely abysmal, which seems unlikely.
Mister_Bubbles
Member
That music sequence...
I wouldn't call Robo Recall 'light gun', that's like 1 of 30 mechanics in the game. That's like calling Civ VI a clicker.
Can you turn up the pixel density / super sampling in those games? Project Cars should look quite nice at very high settings.
Teknopathetic
Member
"Can you turn up the pixel density / super sampling in those games? Project Cars should look quite nice at very high settings."
Project Cars doesn't run particularly well in VR and its anti-aliasing method doesn't play well with VR in the slightest.
Project Cars doesn't run particularly well in VR and its anti-aliasing method doesn't play well with VR in the slightest.
Choppy no matter what, but on my 1070 I can make it look better than 1:1 pixel density, where it is aliasing city.
Teknopathetic
Member
"Choppy no matter what, but on my 1070 I can make it look better than 1:1 pixel density, where it is aliasing city."
You need at least a little bit of AA with PCars, even with supersampling, to make it look clearer, but even DS2X shits on your framerate.
VR makes you appreciate the relatively ancient engines in iRacing and Assetto Corsa. The image quality you get from a ton of supersampling with 4x MSAA thrown on top is so nice.
You need at least a little bit of AA with PCars, even with supersampling, to make it look clearer, but even DS2X shits on your framerate.
VR makes you appreciate the relatively ancient engines in iRacing and Assetto Corsa. The image quality you get from a ton of supersampling with 4x MSAA thrown on top is so nice.
You can choose in Arizona Sunshine.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Serious Sam VR games
Yes, for games that don't support touch i.e. Adrift on Steam VR.
For some 2016 vr games yeah. Older ones before the Touch came out. If you have a pad lying around it'll do for those few games.
There are some gamepad only vr games such as Luckey's Tale, Chronos, Edge of Nowhere.
An Xbox controller is also just nice to have for PC gaming in general. More and more games these days have native support for it or even have it as the primary recommended input device.
I just checked and Lucky's Tale and Edge of Nowhere patched in support to use Touch controllers as a gamepad. You want to look for "Supports Touch (as Gamepad)" on the game listing.
I just checked and Lucky's Tale and Edge of Nowhere patched in support to use Touch controllers as a gamepad. You want to look for "Supports Touch (as Gamepad)" on the game listing.
I don't know about the other ones but you can definitively play Luckys Tale with the Motion Controller. Without motion, of course.
Edit: Too late for the edit above.
Lone Echo and Echo Arena are out
Lone Echo Reviews:
Road To VR - 9/10
UploadVR - 8.5/10
VR and Fun - 9/10
Lone Echo Reviews:
Road To VR - 9/10
UploadVR - 8.5/10
VR and Fun - 9/10
Blam
Member
Yes this is great I'll buy it when I get home.
Chairmanchuck
Member
A 3rd sensor really is necessary, isnt it? Played a bit around in Rec Room and my wife played Robo Recall and everytime you turn around (which you dont even notice), it loses the connection to the Touch controllers.
2 Sensors dont seem enough, especially when they are on a desk. If I try to get things from the (virtual) floor, it often stops like 30cm above the floor, since thats where the sensors reach.
2 Sensors dont seem enough, especially when they are on a desk. If I try to get things from the (virtual) floor, it often stops like 30cm above the floor, since thats where the sensors reach.
Depends on positioning. If the 2 sensors are opposite each other, and placed high enough, it'll be good 95% of the time, but that depends on the game a bit too.
So, can you try putting one of the sensors opposite of the first and behind you? (that's where you'd put a 3rd sensor, anyways)
Chairmanchuck
Member
I could try that, but around 1,5m behind me is a big cupboard. The cable wouldnt be long enough to put it on top of it.
BackBackPunch
Member
I just set up the "experimental" 2 sensor 360 configuration in my office, and it is working great. I'm even using a USB2.0 extender cable on one of the cameras, which I'm not supposed to do, and I've experienced no problems at all. Tracking like a dream.
Echo Arena is really impressive, I have not played a game that has such natural movement. Moving around in zero g with your hands and boosters is just intuitively fun. I spent a good hour in just the lobby alone moving around. It is too bad the people playing the game are real jerks about skill level though. I mean the game just came out officially today, what do they expect? Makes me really not want to play more, which is a shame. I kinda wish that headsets did not all have mics in them for this reason.
Zalusithix has created a new thread to discuss PC VR games. Let's start consolidating discussion of games/software there and leave this thread to Oculus hardware discussion only.
PCVR Games Discussion
PCVR Games Discussion
The Dude
Member
Totally in love with my new oculus.. Just need to echo in here what I said in the other rift thread but I absolutely love chronos and how we can have classic gaming in VR as well, adds such an immersion factor to it all. I hope we continue to get a nice mix of both touch games and more classic games to just chill and game like chronos.
Watching people you know try VR for the first time is almost as fun as playing VR. I had a fun night just letting people mess around with everything.
I have overdone it myself though, real life almost feels like VR right now. When I see walls or my couch I want to grab them to pull myself forward. Lol I even looked at my hand and gave a thumbs up in real life. Help.
I have overdone it myself though, real life almost feels like VR right now. When I see walls or my couch I want to grab them to pull myself forward. Lol I even looked at my hand and gave a thumbs up in real life. Help.
Just setup the whole thing, only tried First Contact and that was pretty cool!
Is there a way to turn off the headset if I just want to use the computer and play regular games? Or should I just leave it plugged in?
Will it damage the headset if I unplug and plug it while the computer is on?
Is there a way to turn off the headset if I just want to use the computer and play regular games? Or should I just leave it plugged in?
Will it damage the headset if I unplug and plug it while the computer is on?
The Dude
Member
Get the oculus tray tool, you can turn it on and off with that and increase the supersampling as well
Thanks! Will do.
Laurentius
Member
Just got mine yesterday. 30 minutes in Robo Recall was like a revelation for me. Suddenly the promise and the appeal of VR all made sense, and now I can't wait to see where this technology goes.
It's got to be tough to explain to somebody who has never done VR before. Because by all accounts Robo Recall looks pretty dull if you're just watching footage.
It's got to be tough to explain to somebody who has never done VR before. Because by all accounts Robo Recall looks pretty dull if you're just watching footage.
Glad to hear you're enjoying Chronos!
Chronos was really the stand-out game for me during the launch of the Rift outshadowed by Eve Valkyrie.
I hope more people play it as it's just such a good game.