I'm also aware that 99% of them wouldn't consider to come back anyway since we're all Trumpers who are currently debating how many black people we murdered today. Most of them are probably beyond salvation when it comes to the possibility of having an actual conversation, but for some there's probably hope.
This is particularly noteworthy because its true. The folks who do come here either make a dramatic statement or simply request a ban silently. Their views are based on October 2017, and you can tell these folks never bothered to actually read up on developments since. In their minds, GAF is still a
worse hell hole than ERA itself.
I mean,
this was created yesterday (Edited it for better reading):
So earlier today while era was offline for maintenance I decided to check gaf in the meantime, while browsing the gaming section I noticed they had a dedicated politics section so I checked it out ( wish I didn’t).
There were 3 topics I checked , one about trump administration denying Hispanics with US birth certificates entry into the country, another about far right demonstrations in Germany over the death of a man by immigrants and the last about how America was actually more racist than Nazi germany , I couldn’t believe the amount of racist, alt right , xenophobic and evangelical extremist stuff being posted , like seriously some guy was saying how the terms racist & Nazi were coined against white people trying to preserve their culture while another was rooting for the Right Wing Germans to violently expel all Muslim immigrants touting that the left is trying to change Germany into a Muslim country.
There were more vile things being posted that went without even a warning, I am not against having civil discussions with people that hold conservative or contrasting ideas to mine but this shit was straight up racist hate speech, anyway I am just glad I am a member of era , and to the mods I don’t know if mentioning the old forum is banable or not , if it’s I honestly didn’t know , anyway I just wanted to vent a little and please excuse my poor English.
Id love to know who he is referring to. The thing is that what these lemmings don't like or get is that impopular and controversial opinion
within acceptable reason should be allowed aswell. Its not like this user has a lot to stand for when the site he
loves sees folks advocating murder getting just a 3day ban but calling people to just
chill over memes is a
duration pending. Or when people make direct death threats to their president or equate every little thing a nazi. But hey, compared to what GAF does, that's fair game, right?
What this guy does is instantly labelling things he does not like to read as
straight up racist hate speech and instantly labels these folks
alt-right, xenophobic, and so on. Perhaps try reading a little bit more (Like reading about games?) instead of focussing on
just 3 threads from a sub-forum. GAF is more than politics alone, but ERA is politics all around.
From the Entertainment faq: “there is no avoiding politics.”
Did you read the briefly lived Entertainment FAQ #3? It’s a propaganda machine. “If a poster complains... report them for thread whining” because heaven forbid that some just want to surf games and entertainment and not politics.
It never ceases to amaze me that a forum centered around the concept of Games has so much trouble bringing that concept at the forefront. Why call yourself a Games Forum if the pre-dominant topic is how minorities are oppressed or ridiculed
everywhere? You know what you can do to keep politics out?
Play some damn games instead.
Basically
The Names after announcing the forum re-structure and not incorporating the actual community on this:
Some useless trivia i found amusing and a summary of events:
Apparently some of the staff have been up for over 30 hours. Imagine this:
- You spend over 30 hours awake contemplating on this new Entertainment thing with others (Likely on Discord)
- You announce this 48 hours in advance and things are already set in stone as you have talked to Prominent members so whatever the Community says, you are going to push this no matter how much foresight you are given.
- It takes you multiple hours to create this sub-forum and move threads.
- Outrage ensues. Apparently people don't like it as OT's are now intermixed with regular threads and it generally looks like a mess that was not thought through from the get go (Who would have thought)
- Being that The Names can't deal with criticism some staff gets increasingly snarky. Others are on a plane and just barely able to respond (Do note that mentioning this only reinforces the impression that this whole idea was done hap-hazardly)
- Eventually, things get reverted after barely 5 hours of existing.
- Reverting takes again multiple hours. This is past the 30 hours of lack of sleep people have had.
This means that certain staff took over 30 hours of to debate and implement this thing, moving posts over, delivering a complete mess as a result, and then after 5 hours decides to revert everything back. Just imagine how anyone involved would feel.
Seldomly have i seen so much long and hard work (lol) seen such crappy results and all their efforts being annulled so fast. I reckon Sir Project Lead made some few enemies along
The Names yesterday.
you have a group of people attacking the mods
one group bitching about the gender identity settings and how that's more important that a shitty forum restructure....another group bitching about elitist tags and a group of people waking up to the realization that they thought they left a cancerous website not realizing they were the actual cancer so they are firing back at the mods and the mission statement.
And some are starting up their own discords away from others....its really funny to see all of this blow up over something so minor
Hilarious. Thank you by the way for this.
- Group attacking the mods: Ofcourse, this group is similar to the pockets of dissent on Old-GAF back then and are the kind of people who would post porn. Also calling dibs on attacking the staff: You knew full well what you were going to get when The Names started banning people for non-reasons to protect their beloved safe space. And even then people still said there was nothing wrong with the forum. Hell, people to this very day are delusional enough to proclaim that the Doom Eternal reveal didn't cause much outrage. This is a group that is completely oblivious to common sense, but you might want to have them on GAF. Because all these people want is to be heard. I mean, this is the group that left OldGAF because they weren't heard in the first place.
- Group bitching about the Gender Identity settings: This group is just acting coy, as it has been explained before that they could not implement this in their Xenforo build. Which should give anyone an idea of the competence of the tech wizzards there as there is a very easy-to-implement plugin making this possible. (All that's needed is the files in the link and to create a custom user field.) Also, if that is the thing that gets you worked up over, then why be on a forum that is focused on gaming, not personal identity?
- Group bitching about elitist tags: Actually a valid question, which only now has been explained: Community Resettlers were brought over to ERA to move GAF OT's over in advance (Which should give you an idea of how the Exodus from October 17 was done), Resettlement Advisors gave extra feedback over these new structures, some more than others. For some reason this was never explained nor were these users stripped of these tags when the forum went live. So immediately from the get-go, ERA has had a ranking system, unintentionally or not and with these ranks carrying little to no weight.
- Group of people getting woke: This is the kind of group that is similar to the first one, with the additional inability to percieve what is absolutely abhorrent moderation for what it is. Even when one gets banned for simply stating they would buy a certain game it still does not wake them up. This group is textbook sheep, and this is the kind of audience that The Names would want. You can tell them everything, and they will believe it. This is the group The Names want to cater to, but atleast this splinter group still is able to get woke - The Little Helpers and the people following them will stand behind their kin, truly believing that saying ''A group of females'' is a vocal murder in progress.
The change here to the political forum has been great...you go into that area expecting to see controversy and differing opinions and you can have an actual discussion and debate...the other forums have been relatively free..its been great to see
I dont think they could ever do that over there as their userbase is eating itself alive....the discords are a very scary read as people just tend to type what's front of mind
Its amusing at how
The Names are so judgmental over every other outlet or user being
incompetent, and then proves to be
truly incompetent themselves. Reminder, this is what
The Names sold to the community-at-large:
I see your stepping away from this thread did not last long.
I am not gonna lie as you are right. I also wrote its for
observational reasons. With that said, i will acknowledge that the next time i would make such an announcement it is far less likely to be taken serious, and that's something ill have to accept then and there.
