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Official bitching about Hudson abandoning VC support. [VC/WiiWare = lost cause]
- Thread starter Kobun Heat
- Start date
Agent Unknown
Member
JSnake said:
At least I don't vent my frustration by lying for kicks. haha And I don't care how long ago it was, everything you say now is to be taken with a ton of suspicion.
Do I need to get a timeline out? I had lost my PRs, yes I was upset. Fast forward probably two months later, and I play this joke. How could I possibly still be upset about losing my PR? It had been two months. Jesus christ, who remains upset about that kind of stuff for two months? Even if it wasn't two months, it was still a long time and plenty enough to get over losing the PRs.
edit: because antagonizing teenagers over the internet is so much better amirite
edit: because antagonizing teenagers over the internet is so much better amirite
Cosmonaut X
Member
Agent Unknown said:
For a junior member, you're doing a lot of dick-swinging.
How about we cut this discussion off and get back to lambasting NoA?
Agent Unknown
Member
JSnake said:
Oh, alright, fair enough....
Starchasing
Member
Oh come lets forget about past problems, and lets hate NOa together as friends!!!
Count Dookkake
Member
Splatterhouse 2 = awesome update.
Also curious about the Western shooting game.
Great week.
Also curious about the Western shooting game.
Great week.
Starchasing
Member
[Nintex] said:
what??? megaman was supposed to be released in europe too?!?!
i used to be in love with the idea of the vc ... but right now i feel nothing... i dont even look at new releases..
but hey this was expected they built up a catalogue, now they slow down because they have to support wii for a couple of more years... maybe we will get surprises for xmas
Starchasing
Member
Capndrake said:
WOW at NoA !!!
as i said i dont follow releases but that is so retarded
jaundicejuice
Member
Appropriate title.
Agent Unknown
Member
Oh yes, and add me to the "Chris Kohler please try to find out what's going on if you can" list.
Kobun Heat
Member
So yeah, I am asking around to figure out what's going on, and the general response seems to be "We thought the game was coming out, but it didn't."
Dragona Akehi
Retired
Kobun Heat said:
I'll get you a pony if you get to the bottom of this.
Superblatt
Member
so wtf happened to SamSho2 today? I've been saving my 1400 points for 6 months...and this is how Nintendo convinces me to blow it? Sonic on Master system?
:lol :lol
:lol :lol
A Black Falcon
Member
Kobun Heat said:
Why is this? N64 emulators for the PC don't require any of that stuff, and they support controller paks, the expansion pak, and rumble paks too... what's different about Nintendo's emulator? I know it is... but why do it that way, instead of emulating? Is that easier?
Agent Unknown
Member
Kobun Heat said:
Nincompetence further confirmed. edit: Assuming of course you meant response from third parties.
Chamellion said:
crowphoenix said:
Wow, he was right, just not in the way he was expecting.
Anyway this is pretty fucking sad on Nintendo's part. Given how much money a lot of us spend for download games on other services, you would have thought they'd have this down by now. And then the only game I really want, SMRPG (I don't have my cart copy anymore) was rated then fell off. NOA just really doesn't get it.
A Black Falcon said:
It's important to note that N64 games aren't actually "emulated" in current PC emulators. It's more like they're interpreted on a high level, which is why most games have problems (and also why they can run at higher framerates than they originally did). Nintendo is actually trying to recreate the games as they originally were, which is far more work, and far more taxing.
FFantasyFX
Member
ggnoobIGN said:
General consensus seems to be that the second one is better - gameplay-wise and gore-wise. I believe some stuff got censored from the TurboGrafx release of the original. The first one is $2 cheaper though.
Cosmonaut X
Member
Aeana said:
Not to mention that - unless things have changed in the past couple of years - most N64 emulators required a brute of a PC to run them smoothly.
Kobun Heat
Member
Can you get to the bottom of an endless pit of despair?Dragona Akehi said:
A Black Falcon
Member
Aeana said:
That's true, N64 emulators on the PC generally aren't precisely emulating the hardware. It's really emulation's major debate, should you try to get games running however you can do it, or try to precisely emulate the hardware? N64 emulation started off with the former and has never really fully gotten off it... though I think there was one N64 emulator that was trying for more accuracy instead of just hacking things to get games working? I forget which one it was, though...
But still, I don't see how what you're saying connects to Nintendo having to significantly edit the old roms either. Obviously the ideal goal -- an emulator that precisely emulates the system that you can just use any rom on and it will look like it originally did (though you will also have options to change things too -- overclock to increase framerates, filtering, higher resolutions, etc) -- is very difficult... So what do they do, use the original code to recreate the game in a form that will look like the original on whatever system they are using in the WiiVC? I'm not clear on how exactly it works...
Oh, and it is true that some N64 games on the PC are reworked too -- in specific, the games which have high-res texture packs. Those aren't just high res textures, they're all new textures that replace the old ones. So PC N64 emulation does have some direct rom editing too, of a form.
But really, I have trouble coming to any conclusion other than just that Nintendo doesn't care enough to put the full effort into it. Why else would we not have controller, rumble, or expansion pak support, after all? There's really no excuse.
Cosmonaut X said:
Some games run well, others badly... with modern PCs, the problem is mostly lack of optimization of the emulators, not limited power in those computers.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
Kobun Heat said:
Do you want the pony?
KeeSomething
Banned
It's time the fans do something...
Perhaps a wave of emails expressing how we Nintendo fans feel about the way Nintendo is shitting on us.
Perhaps a wave of emails expressing how we Nintendo fans feel about the way Nintendo is shitting on us.
A Black Falcon
Member
JSnake said:
Nintendo's opinion has always been that they know what their fans want better than the fans do. And if they don't know what their fans want... well, close enough. The fans won't get any influence either way.
Cosmonaut X
Member
HUELEN10 said:
The best bet for getting anything done - questions answered, changes made etc. - would be for the gaming press to call Nintendo on it outside of barely-listened-to podcasts or personal blogs.
Given the general quality of the online & print gaming press, though, I doubt we'll see anything like that.
Kobun Heat
Member
Whoa, whoa. Stop now. Do not organize a petition, do not write to them. I guarantee you that the people involved in picking Virtual Console releases for the U.S. already read this thread on a daily basis. It's not as if they're sitting in their ivory towers completely oblivious.
Nintendo has decided that Virtual Console will be a couple of games a week, if that, to put the emphasis on WiiWare. It has also decided to build a giant wall of secrecy around its schedule. It sucks, but do not waste your time trying to bark up this tree.
Nintendo has decided that Virtual Console will be a couple of games a week, if that, to put the emphasis on WiiWare. It has also decided to build a giant wall of secrecy around its schedule. It sucks, but do not waste your time trying to bark up this tree.
HUELEN10
Member
That is the thing. I have the number, I am sure quite a few of you do as well, but I am not a formal member of the press? Could I call? Should I call? Should I give the number for someone else to call, if so who? A college newspaper perhaps? Seriously, I'll try anything...Cosmonaut X said:
Anything organized that goes beyond NoA problems, I'll be in and I'll make the word known around the french community (at least through a big website). It'd make sense to create a fan organization which defends positions, requests and communicates with Nintendo. Consumer unions exist for about everything, why not video-games/Nintendo. A big website, a few contributions, lots of visitors, boom. Not yet another fan site, a consumers union, really.
It makes no sense to treat the matter any differently than other markets/products. Sorry to disagree with you, Kobun
It makes no sense to treat the matter any differently than other markets/products. Sorry to disagree with you, Kobun
SabinFigaro
Member
Exactly, and they are reading this thread deriving untold amounts of pleasure from our misery.Kobun Heat said: