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LiveWire said:
QFMFT. Sean Taylor isn't a class act by any means, but it's football. And if that hit helps make the Pro Bowl more interesting and makes the players play harder, I'm all for it. People whine about offseason and not trying to get injured, but ferchrissakes these guys play football. They get paid millions because of the risk of injury and performance demanded. Boo-hoo to ask them to actually play one more game with their peers.

Anyway, Hail Redskins! Looking forward to seeing the news of Asante's hire in a few weeks. :D

As a fellow Skins fan I must diagree.

1. We need to stop this BS "win now" attitude. Danny and Vinny ahve been trying to "win now" since 1999. That BS doesn't work. For some reason the Skins fan base eats up that same line every year. We are NOT one player away from the SB, we're many players away.

2. Stop mortgaing away the future.

3. We need to address the defensive line before ANYTHING else on the defense. Any DB will get beat when a QB has 9 seconds to throw the ball. Asante will be worthless to us with this line.

We need a DT IMO to plug the running woes of this previous season. We also need a DE opposite of Carter, I'm sorry but P. Daniels is done.
 
SonnyBoy said:
As a fellow Skins fan I must diagree.

1. We need to stop this BS "win now" attitude. Danny and Vinny ahve been trying to "win now" since 1999. That BS doesn't work. For some reason the Skins fan base eats up that same line every year. We are NOT one player away from the SB, we're many players away.

2. Stop mortgaing away the future.

3. We need to address the defensive line before ANYTHING else on the defense. Any DB will get beat when a QB has 9 seconds to throw the ball. Asante will be worthless to us with this line.

We need a DT IMO to plug the running woes of this previous season. We also need a DE opposite of Carter, I'm sorry but P. Daniels is done.

I think we're closer to agreement than you realize. Consider that the Redskins D in 2004 was Top 3 and in 2005 Top 10 through that management style, and 2 wins away from the Superbowl in 2005 through that management style. So, there's some merit there, but...what I think you're trying to say is, not to keep signing new guys AND letting core guys (hello, Ryan Clark, Antonio Pierce) go. And I agree with that.

In this particular case with Asante, I feel Carlos Rogers is not a core guy, watching him play and his unprofessional "I want to be on every highlight reel (getting burned, you dope! :lol)" attitude. Asante + Springs +Taylor would be a wonderful secondary to consider (and if Pittsburgh traded Clark back to us to keep Taylor in line we'd be unstoppable :D).

I also feel that this same philosophy should apply to the coaches (we didn't need Al Saunders). The defensive line definitely needs work and I think that's where our draft choices should start.

All of the Redskins misfortunes in the 2006 season came from one thing (maybe two): Portis' injury (and Saunders playcalling). Teams having to plan for a healthy Portis make different defensive playcalls than they did this year. How do you think Santana Moss got so open for all of those great TDs in 2005? Brunell could have had success again this year--he's not a 4000yd 36 TD guy, but he was doing enough to win games last season and not lose them. What happened when Portis' shoulder started bothering him in the Seattle playoff game? He gets pulled, and we lose, despite having the Seahawks on the ropes early with Hasselbeck's fumbling and INT and taking Shaun Alexander out of the game.

So then we started the 2006 season with teams knowing Portis is not an issue, that the team has some changes in the offensive playcalling and it's almost a given that we would not do well. As a fan I hoped for the best and at first bought into the idea that Saunders' calls would just be so unique or aggressive that it would confuse defenses but as we all know now, no one bought it and just played the Skins very aggressively.

Anyway, like I said, I agree that we shouldn't be recreating the entire team every year, but when there's a good player available through trading or free agency you take them if you can. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. That's the risk taken, same with draft picks.
 
Eminem said:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/blog/index?name=simmons
On the other hand, a win's a win. So congrats to the Colts, congrats to their fans, congrats to Manning, you guys rule, you shoved it in every Patriot fan's face, blah blah blah. Let us know when you get to three rings.
Go die in a ****ing car fire you goddamn prick. It infuriates me he gets paid to write this bullshit. What a ****ing twat.
Hey Bill, let us know when you guys get to five rings.

Signed,

SF, Dallas, Pitt
 
Bullshit!

http://thehaternation.blogspot.com/2007/02/post-mortem_12.html

Have you ever had a party where you knew you had to invite somebody you didn’t like? So what do you do? You invite that person at the last minute, when they couldn't possibly be there in time.

That is what the NFL did to Raiders cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, who was the first alternative to be called after Jacksonville's Raashean Mathis went down with an injury on Friday night.

Of course, the NFL smartly waited until after the last flight to Hawaii left California before calling. You could imagine that call.

"Hey us, Naomi, err, Nanana, err, hey guy, guess what? You're totally on the Pro Bowl roster right now. Yeah, I know the game starts in like six hours, but do you think you can find a flight out here in time? No? Bummer, man. Maybe next year."
 
HOLY SHIT WHAT!???!!?!?!?

ARRINGTON EMMONS AND PETITGOUT RELEASED!?!?!?!?

I understand Emmons but ARRINGTON and PETITGOUT!?!?!?

SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HEY ASSHOLE GIANTS, OUR SEASON WENT INTO THE SHITTER AFTER PETITGOUT WENT DOWN.

****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Wellington said:
HOLY SHIT WHAT!???!!?!?!?

ARRINGTON EMMONS AND PETITGOUT RELEASED!?!?!?!?

I understand Emmons but ARRINGTON and PETITGOUT!?!?!?

SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HEY ASSHOLE GIANTS, OUR SEASON WENT INTO THE SHITTER AFTER PETITGOUT WENT DOWN.

****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm as lost as you, WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?! Apparently Diehl is now the starting LT and Arrington was finally picking it up until the injury hit. Unless Reese knows something we don't, WTF

edit: Does this mean were going for Briggs now? I'm so lost
 
Hmm.. If we could get Arrington for cheap he could replace old man trotter, or move into the Right-Side LB position. Interesting.

But i know he will want a huge contract and some stupid team will give him that, and he'll underperform
 
Wellington said:
HOLY SHIT WHAT!???!!?!?!?

ARRINGTON EMMONS AND PETITGOUT RELEASED!?!?!?!?

I understand Emmons but ARRINGTON and PETITGOUT!?!?!?

SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HEY ASSHOLE GIANTS, OUR SEASON WENT INTO THE SHITTER AFTER PETITGOUT WENT DOWN.

****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I felt the disturbance in the Force all the way up in Canada. :lol
 
lol its true. marty is gone in san diego. probably a good move since he was leaving next year anyways. what were they going to do? have him pick an entirely new staff only to leave next year? cameron and phillips leaving left them no choice.
 
:lol Marty fired:lol

Chargers are totally boned now, waiting until all other coaches have been snatched up. They'll be stuck with Norv Turner:lol
 
Tamanon said:
:lol Marty fired:lol

Chargers are totally boned now, waiting until all other coaches have been snatched up. They'll be stuck with Norv Turner:lol
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Wellington said:
HOLY SHIT WHAT!???!!?!?!?

ARRINGTON EMMONS AND PETITGOUT RELEASED!?!?!?!?

I understand Emmons but ARRINGTON and PETITGOUT!?!?!?

SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HEY ASSHOLE GIANTS, OUR SEASON WENT INTO THE SHITTER AFTER PETITGOUT WENT DOWN.

****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT THE FARK IS GOING ON????? And Peitgout, too? The guy once he got hurt the O-line fell apart...

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WHY? Wait CAn they be re-signed to a new deal by the Giants? How do the rulese work?
 
In happier ex-Giants news.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117959309.html?categoryid=14&cs=1
NEW YORK -- NBC Universal is expected to unveil Tiki Barber as its newest on-air personality today with roles on "Today" and "Sunday Night Football."
The former Giants running back, who officially retired from professional football on Monday, has long sought a full-time broadcasting career, and several networks, including Fox and ABC/ESPN, had been vying for his services.

He played his last NFL game on Saturday in Hawaii as a member of the NFC team in the Pro Bowl before wrapping up a 10-year career marked by 15,631 total yards, 10th in league history.

Deal with NBC U, said to be worth $3 million per year over four years, will see Barber, 31, as a regular correspondent on "Today." He will file segments for the show starting in April.

"Today" is expanding to four hours in September, putting additional demands on on-air talent, producers and crew. Barber hasn't been tapped specifically for the fourth hour; his interests may be a better fit in the first two, newsier hours.

Barber will also have a role on NBC's "Sunday Night Football," but he made it clear in his contract talks that he wants to pursue broadcast journalism outside of sports.

At the news conference to introduce Barber set for today, NBC News prexy Steve Capus will appear along with NBC Sports chairman Dick Ebersol and newly minted NBC Universal CEO Jeff Zucker.

Barber has had a weekly gig on Fox News' "Fox & Friends" for several years and has regularly appeared on other shows, including "Live With Regis & Kelly."
 
no offense to giants fans or tiki barber, but who gives a flying **** what he's doing after football? i saw an interview with him before the probowl, and they said "what are you going to do after football?" and he said "you know a lot of people are asking that, and i have some surprises in store, i want to keep my options open, but you'll all see soon enough." here is a newsflash: no one is going to care about what tiki barber is doing in a year (unless it's playing pro football... which apparently it wont be!)

but good for him that he got out of the league healthy! :D
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
no offense to giants fans or tiki barber, but who gives a flying **** what he's doing after football? i saw an interview with him before the probowl, and they said "what are you going to do after football?" and he said "you know a lot of people are asking that, and i have some surprises in store, i want to keep my options open, but you'll all see soon enough." here is a newsflash: no one is going to care about what tiki barber is doing in a year (unless it's playing pro football... which apparently it wont be!)

but good for him that he got out of the league healthy! :D

why doesn't Tiki get the same kind of shit that Ricky Williams got when he retired young? I dont' hear anybody calling Tiki a quitter. And smoking weed all day in a teepee>>>>being on the Today Show. Ricky won.
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
baltimore.


**** off chargers, stay away from norv. he is happy with us.... he doesn't make for a good coach, only a good coordinator!

Not gonna happen.... for at least one more season. ;)
 
Ninja Scooter said:
why doesn't Tiki get the same kind of shit that Ricky Williams got when he retired young? I dont' hear anybody calling Tiki a quitter. And smoking weed all day in a teepee>>>>being on the Today Show. Ricky won.

At least Tiki Barber didn't do it right before the season started and screwed over the team.
 
woodchuck said:
At least Tiki Barber didn't do it right before the season started and screwed over the team.

yeah he did it right smack dab in the middle of the seaosn, which im sure didn't effect how poorly his team did.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
yeah he did it right smack dab in the middle of the seaosn, which im sure didn't effect how poorly his team did.

why would it affect the team? You think Eli sucked ass because of Tiki? You think they got all those injuries because of Tiki? Tiki played great all season. If anything, it could motivate the team to try to win one for Tiki.
 
Everyone knew Tiki was going to retire before he even announced it. I don't know why the media turned it into such a big deal.

Had Luke not gone down he'd have had a bigger year.... or if they never played Whitfield and just used Diehl at LT.
 
Chargers have had probably the worse off season in recent memory. They lose thier offensive coordinator, they love their defensive coordinator, they lose the successor to the defensive coordinator, and now they lose their head coach. I guess with all of the assistants gone, ownership thought it was the perfect time to just go ahead and start completely from scratch.

THEY BETTER LEAVE NORV ALONE, THOUGH!
 
Word going around is Pete Carroll might already have an unwritten agreement in place. Might explain some of the choices as far as Sarkisian made to stay at USC.....
 
i dont blame carroll for wanting to leave USC at this time. program seems to run into a new scandal every week.


p.s. for the record, i don't believe the carroll rumor
 
The ironic thing about Marty is that he tried really hard to go against his instincts this time around in the playoffs and it kinda screwed him over.

You SF guys are putting too much stock in Turner.
 
You SF guys are putting too much stock in Turner.

it's not even that i think norv turner is some legend offensive coordinator. in fact, during the seaon me and my buddies would make fun of the whole situation after every big play we had by mocking the announcers and saying they would say "WOW! what a call by norv turner! he made alex read the field and make that sweet throw! credit that play to norv!"

what it IS about is that i don't want alex smith to have a 3rd offensive coordinator in 3 years. the dude is already having a tough time adjusting to the pro-game, the last thing he needs is ANOTHER offensive system to learn. he needs stability so he can get his feet on the ground and start to pick people apart. he will do that with norv there a few more years, then alex will have such a command of the game that it wont matter who the offensive coordinator is.
 
Art Shell can be had for the low, low price of LDT and a first round draft pick.

That's a steal, but what can you do in this crazy buyer's market?
 
Rorschach said:
You SF guys are putting too much stock in Turner.

Like FMT said, its not so much that I think Norv is some master play caller, but you can't deny that he has a positive and profoudn impact on young players; He is a great teacher. And right now we have a very young offense that has shown flashes of greatness under Norv's tutelage. Gore is a pro bowler, Alex has started to shed doubts on if he was worthy of the #1 pick, Arnaz Battle has begun to look like a competent starting WR, and The Duke when healthy, was dazzling at times. At this stage, Norv is paramount in the development of our young players. Not only because of his teaching skills, but because starting over with a new coach and philosphy is difficult for any player much less a bunch of 2nd and 3rd year players.

Most of all I really want to Alex to get a full offseason of analyzing film and working with Norv based off their offense.
 
ok ok ok after deep thought the cuts weren't that bad. emmons is an obvious choice for a cut, so now luke and lavar. luke has back problems that have occured randomly throughout his career and with the broken leg who knows how he will be, plus it took diehl a few plays but he settled down good at LT(Tiki's ypc went up 1 when Diehl took over) and we have no clue what we have in whimper.

lavar is just injury prone and just tore his achilles so who knows how he will be when he returns. lavar is hurting the most right now since i thought he could still produce.

so after all 3 of these cuts, the giants cap remains the same (with luke and emmons gone we saved money and lavar's dead money evened with the save)
 
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/story/496966p-418878c.html

Reese's Giant purge
BY RALPH VACCHIANO
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER


Jerry Reese's first move as the new general manager of the Giants was big and unexpected.

And he might just be getting started.

Showing that he's serious about making the Giants a younger, healthier team, the first-year GM said goodbye yesterday to three expensive, injury-plagued veterans - left tackle Luke Petitgout and linebackers LaVar Arrington and Carlos Emmons. Combined, the trio missed 23 games last season and was due nearly $8 million in salary this year.

Just moments after the Giants announced that Petitgout had been released, his main backup, Bob Whitfield, announced his retirement on Sirius NFL radio - a move that may have been done because he was about to get cut, too. And there still could be more cuts coming, with receiver Tim Carter and kick returner Chad Morton - two other injury-plagued Giants - possibly on the chopping block, according to a source.

The release of Emmons wasn't much of a surprise, since he was hardly healthy during his three seasons with the team. But the axing of Arrington and Petitgout was a shock. Arrington had just completed the first year of a seven-year, $49 million contract, and said he was progressing nicely in his rehab from the torn Achilles he suffered on Oct. 23.

Petitgout was the Giants' best lineman and was having his finest season before he broke his leg on Nov. 12, and was so valuable that the team refused to place him on injured reserve until the final week in the slim hope he'd be available for the playoffs.

"Luke has been a valuable performer for our team," Reese said in a statement released by the Giants. "Throughout his career he showed his versatility and toughness. Because of that, this was a difficult decision, but it was one we felt we had to make to take the first steps in improving our team for 2007. Carlos has had a tough time staying on the field consistently because of injuries the past couple years. LaVar's situation is unfortunate because he was just starting to really become a factor in our defense at the time of his injury."

"These are difficult decisions," Tom Coughlin added in the same statement. "But as Jerry and I looked at the roster, they are decisions we felt we had to make."

Neither Reese nor Coughlin was available to explain the moves any further, but a team source said they were all the result of a combination of factors - reliability, durability, performance and money. Injuries have destroyed all three of Coughlin's teams with the Giants, and were a huge factor in last season's second-half collapse. That's a problem Reese is determined to correct.

And the three players who were cut were huge parts of the problem. Emmons, 33, had missed 11 games over the last two seasons and hadn't started all 16 games since 2001. The 28-year-old Arrington - who called the Giants "a class organization" yesterday and indicated he's considering retirement - has had two knee surgeries and Achillies surgery in the past three seasons, in which he's played only 23 games.

Compared to those two, the 30-year-old Petitgout has been relatively durable, though he's been plagued by a chronically bad back.

Cutting them not only gives the Giants a chance to get younger, more durable players at those positions, it also saves them $1.6 million against the 2007 salary cap. Add in the savings from two retirements - Tiki Barber's retirement became official yesterday - and the Giants have cleared about $6 million in salary cap space, leaving them approximately $20 million under the $109 million cap.

That could make Reese a major player in the open market, where he is expected to focus his efforts on linebackers and cornerbacks. David Diehl, who started the final two games of last season at left tackle, is the most likely candidate to replace Petitgout. And Rich Seubert could step in and replace Diehl at left guard, especially if free agent center Shaun O'Hara is re-signed.
Reese better draft some speed LBs, a stud OL, and get Michael Turner.
 
I can't believe the Chargers got rid of Schottenheimer. What a stupid ass move. You don't fire your coach if you can't immediately upgrade. :lol

Nice job, Chargers. After you also lost your coordinators you then go and shitcan the only guy who might at least still get you a 14 win season.

I think they need to lean on Ron Rivera.
 
ESPN just confirmed that the ****ing Chargers asked for permission to speak to Norv Turn and Mike Singletary. Apparently they've also asked for permission to speak to Raven's defensive coordinator Rex Ryan.


****.. Leave your coaches along..SHIT!
 
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