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DonasaurusRex said:
Seattle? yeah right atlantas defense is on cloud 9 right now and you're going to pick seattle..i dunno about that.
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Exactly, Hasselback was just thrown to the wind against the Jags' Pass rush, Atlanta is a much heavier one, he's done for. Plus their inside line is good also to hold Alexander to a respectable amount.
 
1337_J35U5 said:
picking tip: Atlanta at Seattle - trust me on this one
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ok here is why im picking Seattle, the monday night winner that goes on the road loses 80% of the time. If you think Atlanta will fall in the 20% then go for it
 
1337_J35U5 said:
ok here is why im picking Seattle, the monday night winner that goes on the road loses 80% of the time. If you think Atlanta will fall in the 20% then go for it
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Interesting stat, where'd you get this from?
 
Baltimore at Tennessee 1:00 p.m.
Buffalo at Tampa Bay 1:00 p.m.
Detroit at Chicago 1:00 p.m.
Jacksonville at Indianapolis 1:00 p.m.
Minnesota at Cincinnati 1:00 p.m.
New England at Carolina 1:00 p.m.
Pittsburgh at Houston 1:00 p.m.
San Francisco at Philadelphia 1:00 p.m.
Atlanta at Seattle 4:05 p.m.
St. Louis at Arizona 4:05 p.m.
Cleveland at Green Bay 4:15 p.m.
Miami at N.Y. Jets 4:15 p.m.
San Diego at Denver 4:15 p.m.
Kansas City at Oakland 8:30 p.m.
N.Y. Giants at New Orleans 7:30 p.m.
Washington at Dallas 9:00 p.m.
 
Remember the last time the Steelers played the Texans? I wanted to kick a hole through my damn TV.


The only NFL team Cowher's Steelers have not defeated is Houston and their only meeting against the Texans in 2002 was one of the strangest in NFL annals.

Expansion Houston managed only 47 yards on offense and punted on its first 10 possessions. Quarterback David Carr was sacked more times (four) than he completed passes (three). The Steelers had 422 yards in offense. Yet Houston pulled an upset in Heinz Field, 24-6.

Tommy Maddox had three turnovers returned for touchdowns, two interceptions and a fumble.

"Bizarre is a good word," Cowher said. "I remember the game, and this morning I happened to look at the stats of the game. ... It was a really bizarre game. That was a weird year."
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http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05257/571107.stm
 
Bowser said:
Interesting stat, where'd you get this from?
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I wish I could tell you to prove alittle backing to my claim, but I cant because it was just something I noticed and have been using for years now to pick winners. Now ask your self this question "in week 4 in the pre season why was there no monday night game?". The NFL know about this trend to and they even try to schedule BYE weeks for the monday night teams the week after the monday night game

take a look
week 3
monday night Dallas 21 at Washington 18

week 4
Dallas BYE
Washington loses at the crapy Browns (washington even lost monday night)
manday night Kansas City 27 at Baltimore 24

week 5
Kansas City BYE
Baltimore won @ washington
monday night Tennesee 48 at Green Bay 27

week 6
tennesee is at home and still lost
Green Bay won
monday night Tampa Bay 21 St. Louis 28

week 7
St. Louis loses @ crapy miami
tampa bay wins at home
monday night Denver 10 Cincinnati 23

Week 8
cincinnati loses at tennessee
Denver loses at home
Monday night Miami 14 NY Jets 41

Week 9
NY jets lose at buffalo
Miami loses at home
monday night minnesota 28 Indianapolis 31

Week 10
colts win but they are at home
minnesota loses at Green Bay

I will say it again...the monday night winner that goes on the road loses 80% of the time. the reason is you play a monday night game, ok you just lost one day of prep for the next week's game (all sunday teams practice on monday), then you have to travel so you lose 1-2 days, so in total you lost 2-3 days to prep for the next team. winning after a monday night game is not an easy thing to do.
 
:lol Wow, Bill Simmons sounds a lot different than I thought he would(appearing on Jim Rome is Burning), I always would've thought he would sound like Jim Rome himself.
 
fun additional fact, Dallas has the best record coming off of a short week, most likely due to playing on Thanksgiving every year.
 
Mcnabb could be out sunday.

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=34732

Personally I hope they let him rest a week. I think we can handle the 49ers with Mcmahon, we are at home and the 9ers may let down after a big win.


Anyone see this from espn?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2161289
Trotter apparently pushed Mathis, who responded with a punch. Another Falcons cornerback, DeAngelo Hall, also appeared to throw a punch.
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Trotter, speaking on a Philadelphia radio show, said he was surprised how quickly things escalated.

"I didn't expect him to throw a punch, and I would love to meet him by the parking lot," The Philadelphia Inquirer quoted him as saying.

Trotter claims he didn't throw a punch in the scuffle.

"I'm positive I didn't throw a punch," he said, according to the Inquirer. "Clearly, the guy hit me first. I tried to grab his face mask and tried to defend myself. It's sad that it happened."
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like i said in the other thread, if we can protect rat we are going to make some noise in the eagles game. its going to be a tough game, with or without mcnabb playing. one thing i know is this: if we average 1.8 yards rushing again, we're going to lose the game plain and simple. if we had even an AVERAGE running game against the rams, that game would have ended in a blowout. that shit can't happen again, i don't care if philly brings 10 people up to the line we have to get at least a DECENT rushing attack going or we're going to be in for a long day.
 
1337_J35U5 said:
I will say it again...the monday night winner that goes on the road loses 80% of the time. the reason is you play a monday night game, ok you just lost one day of prep for the next week's game (all sunday teams practice on monday), then you have to travel so you lose 1-2 days, so in total you lost 2-3 days to prep for the next team. winning after a monday night game is not an easy thing to do.
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Valid reasoning, I still don't think it will matter. After having to play in Philly last year in the playoffs, the players understand how imporant it is to win each and every single game. I think they will come out strong.
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
like i said in the other thread, if we can protect rat we are going to make some noise in the eagles game. its going to be a tough game, with or without mcnabb playing. one thing i know is this: if we average 1.8 yards rushing again, we're going to lose the game plain and simple. if we had even an AVERAGE running game against the rams, that game would have ended in a blowout. that shit can't happen again, i don't care if philly brings 10 people up to the line we have to get at least a DECENT rushing attack going or we're going to be in for a long day.
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IF lol.

IF we stopped that punt return we win, IF bulger doesnt throw that pick we prolly win....

anyway, did you check your paypal?
 
Sal Palantonio just reported that the NFL agreed that Chad Lavalais' spear hit to McNabb was illegal and he will be fined ~$7500.

edit: lol looks like Eagles fans get sweet karma (if Mathis indeed started the fight to get Trotter out intentionally, which I don't believe):

Falcons | Mathis Out for the Year
Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:48:05 -0700

KFFL has learned Atlanta Falcons CB Kevin Mathis (knee) will miss the remainder of the season after blowing out his knee Wednesday, Sept. 14. He suffered a torn ACL, MCL and PCL.
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Bowser said:
Sal Palantonio just reported that the NFL agreed that Chad Lavalais' spear hit to McNabb was illegal and he will be fined ~$7500.

edit: lol looks like Eagles fans get sweet karma (if Mathis indeed started the fight to get Trotter out intentionally, which I don't believe):
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Wow. He plays nickel back though, doesnt he?
 
Baltimore at Tennessee 1:00 p.m.
Buffalo at Tampa Bay 1:00 p.m.
Detroit at Chicago 1:00 p.m.
Jacksonville at Indianapolis 1:00 p.m.
Minnesota at Cincinnati 1:00 p.m.
New England at Carolina 1:00 p.m.
Pittsburgh at Houston 1:00 p.m.
San Francisco at Philadelphia 1:00 p.m.
Atlanta at Seattle 4:05 p.m.
St. Louis at Arizona 4:05 p.m.
Cleveland at Green Bay 4:15 p.m.
Miami at N.Y. Jets 4:15 p.m.
San Diego at Denver 4:15 p.m.
Kansas City at Oakland 8:30 p.m.
N.Y. Giants at New Orleans 7:30 p.m.
Washington at Dallas 9:00 p.m.

I really want to go with the jags but its in ind and the colts defense looks improved...even if it was against the ravens. Oakland should bomb KC into submission, the eagles are going to rip the niners a new one, the giants will probably edge out the saints, and I give the edge to Dallas cause they're at home. Detroits going to explode on the Bears and look for Farve to come out firing after last week, as will Culpepper. And yes you heard it here first Tennesse will beat the ravens!
 
I KNEW SPEARING WAS ILLEGAL!!! :lol :lol :lol Sweet sweet justice. If only it was penalized like it should have been during the game.

edit: lol looks like Eagles fans get sweet karma (if Mathis indeed started the fight to get Trotter out intentionally, which I don't believe):
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He would never admit it but im sure that news brought a smile to Trotters face.
 
I'm trying to remember if they scored after that interception? It was a tough game in the beginning with the Iggles field position. We were in a hole all half. We made some good adjustments on defense. Too bad our offense was not clicking, as it was a winnable game. Mike Vick can't hit the ground if he threw at it. The only way it does is if he overthrows a reciever. Now I know why people hated on McNabb 2-3 years ago. But other times he hits the reciever right in the chest 50 yards downfield. He'll get there. He has the right weapons that Atlanta will do anything to make him great and the'll put in another 5 years. But in time, Vick should pick it up. It will be funny if he pulls a Mcnabb and proclaims that he doesn't want to be a running quarterback.

Some tweak McNabb made last year improved his accuracy but on Monday, it looked like he regressed. Hopefully he picks it up next week. And I just found out I won't be working on Monday, so I'm celebrating. Two weeks in a row, of Sunday football. Sweet. And Payback w/Mel Gibson is on. This night is working out for me. Hooray for me.

Edit: BTW, I know TO didn't score but can we stop saying that Hall shut him down. The whole defense shut us down. But you don't shut a reciever down when he racks up 100+ yards on you. Just my rant for ESPN. I'm starting to develop a love hate relationship with the news networks. IE I love 'Jacked Up' on NFL Live but I hate their incessant blabbering. I love the segments when they replay some great plays with the local radio announcers but I hate their flip flopping.
 
DJ_Tet said:
QFP (quoted for posterity, think you meant Boller, ehh, not much difference there anyway :p)
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I think he was referring to the rumor that the Ravens wanted to trade for the disgruntled Ramsey.
 
Ahh, hadn't heard that rumor. What are they thinking of trading? I can't imagine the Skins giving up much anything for Boller, and I can't imagine the Ravens giving up Boller for anything less than a 2nd rounder.

Sounds like a pipe dream to me, but Dan Snydor has surprised me before.
 
i just checked paypal soulja and i got it. thanks buddy, you didn't pussy out like so many others amongst various forums over the years. we'll definitely bet again for the game in st louis
 
Its cool. I am glad you could come up for the win. It is good to be back. We have a great D. Passing game is looking good, we just need to get the running game going.

Go 49ers!
 
Duce now that Mathis is gone for at least the season if not his career could you please STFU up already about it?
 
Shit, the Giants playing Monday night at home then travelling to San Diego for the Sunday night game. This is fucking bullshit, fuck you America's team if L33T's reasoning is correct.
 
Monday, Sep. 18th
Pittsburgh at Houston, 1:00 p.m.
Detroit at Chicago, 1:00 p.m.
Minnesota at Cincinnati, 1:00 p.m.
Jacksonville at Indianapolis, 1:00 p.m.
Baltimore at Tennessee, 1:00 p.m.
New England at Carolina, 1:00 p.m.
Buffalo at Tampa Bay, 1:00 p.m.
San Francisco at Philadelphia, 1:00 p.m.
St. Louis at Arizona, 4:05 p.m.
Atlanta at Seattle, 4:05 p.m.
Miami at NY Jets, 4:15 p.m.
Cleveland at Green Bay, 4:15 p.m.
San Diego at Denver, 4:15 p.m.
Kansas City at Oakland, 8:30 p.m.

Monday, Sep. 19th
NY Giants at New Orleans, 7:30 p.m.
Washington at Dallas, 9:00 p.m.


I don't know why the hell I'm picking Denver again after that debacle last week, but oh well.......
 
Wellington said:
Shit, the Giants playing Monday night at home then travelling to San Diego for the Sunday night game. This is fucking bullshit, fuck you America's team if L33T's reasoning is correct.
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I doubt the number is as high as 80%, and it certainly doesn't matter whether the team won or lost on Monday night, but teams playing on Monday and then on the road the following week do lose more often than teams playing at home after a Monday night game.

The only way I could see it reaching as high as 80%, and even then I doubt it, would be if it was a road Monday night game followed by a road game the next week, and I don't think the NFL does that more than once or twice per season if that.

edit: The only team that suffers from a road Monday-road Sunday is New Orleans this week and next, and that wasn't part of the NFL schedule.
 
TheDuce22 said:
Just confirms that someone on the Eagles staff is a voodoo doctor.
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....

Anyway what's the latest coming out of Philly is McNabb starting Sunday or not? I'm actually delaying on making my pick for that game based on him.
 
Reid is being wishy washy but McNabb said nothing would keep him off the field.
 
If at any point they name Koy Detmer the starter you might as well pick the 49ers cause he is the worst QB I saw all preseason.

Edit: The latest is they consulted Mcnair and his doctor and they advised that Mcnabb take his time healing.
 
Jerry Rice is God:
In other football news, the magnificent Jerry Rice steps down. Obviously he's the best receiver ever: The question is whether he's the best football player ever, period. By statistics, Rice walks away whistlin' with that distinction. Consider the spread between the best-ever in several major sports categories and the second-best ever -- a point TMQ has made before about Rice, but now updates for the final time. In baseball, Hank Aaron has six percent more home runs than Babe Ruth. In basketball, Kareem Abdul-Jabber has four percent more points than Karl Malone. In football, Emmitt Smith has 10 percent more rushing yards than Walter Payton. Turn to Rice and the spreads become spectacular. For most seasons with 50 or more catches, Rice is 31 percent ahead of the No. 2 guy, Andre Reed. For most receptions in a career, Rice has 41 percent more than the second-best receiver, Cris Carter. For most consecutive games with a reception, Rice is 50 better than the second-best, Art Monk. For most career touchdowns, Rice is 52 percent better than the second-best, Carter. For most receiving yards gained, Rice is 53 percent better than the second-best, Tim Brown. In team sports, only Wayne Gretzky, with 54 percent more career points than the second-best, Gordie Howe, rivals the statistical accomplishments compiled by Jerry Rice. Best football player ever? You won't hear an argument from me.
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"Giants running back Tiki Barber hopes to both hurt and help the Saints on Monday. He has pledged to donate $100 for every yard he gains and $500 for every touchdown he scores against the Saints to Hurricane Katrina relief, the Newark Star-Ledger reported."

Class act...
 
Phoenix said:
"Giants running back Tiki Barber hopes to both hurt and help the Saints on Monday. He has pledged to donate $100 for every yard he gains and $500 for every touchdown he scores against the Saints to Hurricane Katrina relief, the Newark Star-Ledger reported."

Class act...
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Indeed.
 
Phoenix said:
"Giants running back Tiki Barber hopes to both hurt and help the Saints on Monday. He has pledged to donate $100 for every yard he gains and $500 for every touchdown he scores against the Saints to Hurricane Katrina relief, the Newark Star-Ledger reported."

Class act...
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Pfft, Ronde Barber is pledging to donate $10,000 for every yard he gains and $500,000 for every touchdown.

Go Ronde! :)
 
I will say it again...the monday night winner that goes on the road loses 80% of the time. the reason is you play a monday night game, ok you just lost one day of prep for the next week's game (all sunday teams practice on monday), then you have to travel so you lose 1-2 days, so in total you lost 2-3 days to prep for the next team. winning after a monday night game is not an easy thing to do.
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Not only that, Atlanta isnt a very good team on the road. They went like 4-4 last year. The way they celebrated on monday its almost like that was their superbowl so that makes a let down even more likely.
 
The NFL's "business model" on San Antonio was just busted to pieces yesterday as all three games for the New Orleans Saints here in SA nearly sold out the same day tickets were made available to the public. That business model had speculated that attendance for an NFL team here would only average 25,000.

:lol :lol
 
They should not take away the team from New Orleans. I lived in that area for about a year and the people there do love their football and would support a team that was worth a crap. It would be seriously fucked up to move them because of what happened.
 
TheDuce22 said:
Not only that, Atlanta isnt a very good team on the road. They went like 4-4 last year. The way they celebrated on monday its almost like that was their superbowl so that makes a let down even more likely.
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:lol


I guess you didn't realize that 2 of those losses came at the end of the season when we had already clinched the #2 seed and rested our starters right?

So is it some kind of rule that Eagle fans have to automatically hate and show bitterness towards teams that beat them, and I'm not talking about the temporary hate that normal sport fans have, I mean it's like forever lasting hate.


Disclaimer: I'm not saying all Eagle fans are this way just most of the ones I encounter on the net.
 
The reason I dislike teams in the NFC south (i think i mentioned this before) is because they all have dickhead coaches. Teams tend to take on the personality of the coach. I cant stand the COACHES who are always making a spectacle of themselves. Get those guys out of there and ill go back to not giving a shit about that division .

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TheDuce22 said:
The reason I dislike teams in the NFC south (i think i mentioned this before) is because they all have dickhead coaches. Teams tend to take on the personality of the coach. I cant stand the ones who are always making a spectacle of themselves. Get those guys out of there and ill go back to not giving a shit about that division .
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<Does double take...>

<Does triple take...>

Anyway the shit is flying up in Baltimore Billick has to keep clarifying what the QB status here is... first he make a comment that Wright would be in till Boller was healthy, then he told the reporters we'll do what we did on '03(as long as Wright is producing he's in), then he's now told them Wright is only in til Boller is able to play again... what a joke... Baltimore tried to create a good QB by getting Boller and building him up. It hasn't worked... keep Anthony at the helm and work on Derek Anderson... now there's a kid that looks like he has legit talent....
 
TheDuce22 said:
The reason I dislike teams in the NFC south (i think i mentioned this before) is because they all have dickhead coaches. Teams tend to take on the personality of the coach. I cant stand the COACHES who are always making a spectacle of themselves. Get those guys out of there and ill go back to not giving a shit about that division .

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Well.....ok. You are probably one of 5 people that have referred to Jim Mora Jr. as a dickhead coach, but it's your opinion.


I like our coach, and think he's a perfect fit for our team so go ahead and keep hating us. I think we will be alright. :)


Darien,

Billick is going to have a shitstorm on his hands if the Ravens win all the games up till Boller comes back. Should be very interesting to see how this plays out.
 
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