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i long for the days of Dallas/San Francisco. it's too bad that in the last 7 or so years, both teams really haven't been good at the same time.
 
levious said:
carried over from the Steelers/Browns after the move.
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...for maybe a couple of years after 1996, since they were pretty much all Browns players after the move.
But it's pretty much a whole different scenario now.
 
teruterubozu said:
...for maybe a couple of years after 1996, since they were pretty much all Browns players after the move.
But it's pretty much a whole different scenario now.
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I remember hearing Pittsburgh players saying the same thing some years back...that after the Browns franchise moved to Baltimore, they still considered the Browns-become-Ravens to be the main rival. The Clevland Browns were non-existent for three years, and then the new Browns team had no connection to the old franchise except for the name.
 
Spectral Glider said:
The Bengals need a few more winning seasons before there's a true rivalry. So, yeah, I think Baltimore/Pitt is a bigger one. I had much euphoria when the Steelers knocked them out of the playoffs the year after they won the super bowl. And, actually, NE/Pitt is currently a bigger rivalry than Cinci/Pitt. I don't think Cinci/Pitt was ever really that big of one. Going back through the years Pitt/Cleveland, Pitt/Houston and Pitt/Raiders were much, much bigger.
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The Cleveland and Cincy games are still big, but only for Cleveland and Cincy. They have to win a few games from us before it becomes a true rivalry. Right now it is more of they want what we have then it is a rivalry.
 
Lucky Forward said:
I remember hearing Pittsburgh players saying the same thing some years back...that after the Browns franchise moved to Baltimore, they still considered the Browns-become-Ravens to be the main rival. The Clevland Browns were non-existent for three years, and then the new Browns team had no connection to the old franchise except for the name.
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doesn't the new browns team have the same fans as the old team?
 
Bill Simmons is 15-17 for the season.

How is that possible? I spend about a maximum of 5 minutes picking my games and I certainly won't have 10% of the information Simmons would have (considering that is his job) and yet I feel the worst I will do is 9-6 for a given week.
 
bionic77 said:
Bill Simmons is 15-17 for the season.

How is that possible? I spend about a maximum of 5 minutes picking my games and I certainly won't have 10% of the information Simmons would have (considering that is his job) and yet I feel the worst I will do is 9-6 for a given week.
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Well, first, he's 15-17 with the spread, he's not picking winners.


But that's not really an excuse, because his wife is 16-16 under the same circumstances.
 
bionic77 said:
Bill Simmons is 15-17 for the season.

How is that possible? I spend about a maximum of 5 minutes picking my games and I certainly won't have 10% of the information Simmons would have (considering that is his job) and yet I feel the worst I will do is 9-6 for a given week.
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Bill Simmons is still picking teams like it was 3 years ago, at least I think that's how old his scouting reports are:P
 
Lucky Forward said:
I remember hearing Pittsburgh players saying the same thing some years back...that after the Browns franchise moved to Baltimore, they still considered the Browns-become-Ravens to be the main rival. The Clevland Browns were non-existent for three years, and then the new Browns team had no connection to the old franchise except for the name.
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they retained all team/player history, records, stats and such.

DarienA said:
I disagree with that, where did you get that from BTW?
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The rivalry was already there, certainly the Ravens have an identity all their own now, just was saying that's mainly why the rivalry was already there and strong.


bionic77 said:
Bill Simmons is 15-17 for the season.

How is that possible? I spend about a maximum of 5 minutes picking my games and I certainly won't have 10% of the information Simmons would have (considering that is his job) and yet I feel the worst I will do is 9-6 for a given week.
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if you consistently went 9-6 against the spread you'd make regular money.
 
You guys need to stop taking advantage of FMT's loyalty to his team with these bets. It's not right.
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jokes on you buddy. let me give you some numbers:

my winnings from betting on the 49ers (this does not count any other bets, the only additional bet i made was that the bears would not win a playoff game last year from mrbob): $90 ($60 from soulja, $10 from DM, $20 from miguel)

my LOSSES from betting on the 49ers the last 2 years: $10 (i lost $10 on the bears vs. 49ers game from last year... fluke ass shit we should have won)

so who is taking advantage of who my friend?
 
FMT are we still down for the 20 bet on the vikings/niners game?


i'd like to up it if that is cool with you
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we are on for $35 so far. $15 that the 49ers will finish w/ a better record than the vikes, $20 straight up on the game. what do you want to up it to?
 
woodchuck said:
i have to say i'm impressed that fmt actually makes money betting on the niners
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he essentially made money by betting against the Rams and Texans, and then the Bears in the playoffs. I'm sure lots of betters did the same thing last year.
 
effzee said:
hooray westbrook is ready to go on sunday.
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I think the worst part of last year was the TO situation kinda forcing our hand with Westbrook. It didn't seem like a typical deal they normally make. He's great but won't survive a season. Then we give him 25 million? It just doesn't make sense. This year just reaffirms my suspicions. He'll be like this forever. I hope we can get a dominant, pure runner in the next few years that's durable.
 
Speaking of the Texans, how many times has Carr been sacked this year?

After the Giants gave up 8 against the Eagles this may be the first time ever that the Texans are not leading that category after week two.
 
levious said:
he essentially made money by betting against the Rams and Texans, and then the Bears in the playoffs. I'm sure lots of betters did the same thing last year.
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but still. it was the niners
 
Ben is so full of crap. I think his road pancake deal left his memory fuzzy:

In the previous Bengals-Steelers game , the NFL ruled that Bengals middle linebacker Odell Thurman had been tripped into Roethlisberger’s knee, but Roethlisberger called it “a little dirty” at the time. On Thursday, he didn’t recall that.

“When I heard that I was kind of taken aback,” Roethlisberger said. “I don’t ever remember crying about it. It’s not really my style. I didn’t think it was a dirty hit when he did hit me and I would never, even if I did think something was dirty, come out and say it was dirty. So, it kind of threw me for a loop when Coach Lewis said that, because I don’t expect that coming from him. But, hey, that’s the way he felt, and he’s entitled to his opinion, and that’s fine.”
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bionic77 said:
Speaking of the Texans, how many times has Carr been sacked this year?

After the Giants gave up 8 against the Eagles this may be the first time ever that the Texans are not leading that category after week two.
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Carr has been sacked 9 times in 2 games so far. He's working on it!
 
shantyman said:
Ben is so full of crap. I think his road pancake deal left his memory fuzzy:
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How is Steelers week been in Cincy so far? I find it humorous that the entire city gets geeked up to lose to the Steelers every year. Notice how there is no Bengals week on the Steelers calender. :D

P.S. Why are all of Marvin Lewis's middle linebackers always committing felonies? I have to go with Ben on this one.
 
Past winners of the Easy Ed McCaffrey Memorial "Best Random White WR Who Has A Great Fantasy Season" award include Ricky Proehl, Drew Bennett, Marc Boerigter and Kevin Curtis. And maybe it's early, but it looks like we already have a runaway favorite for the 2006 crown ... that's right, Mr. Mike Furrey! Is there a dorkier touchdown hookup in recent NFL history than Kitna-to-Furrey? He's getting in the end zone this week, mark my words.
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WHO? MATT JONESSSSSSSSSSSS! ****er. I should email his ass.
 
skinnyrattler said:
I think the worst part of last year was the TO situation kinda forcing our hand with Westbrook. It didn't seem like a typical deal they normally make. He's great but won't survive a season. Then we give him 25 million? It just doesn't make sense. This year just reaffirms my suspicions. He'll be like this forever. I hope we can get a dominant, pure runner in the next few years that's durable.
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Westbrook is the most important player on offense aside from Mcnabb. He would have just as much or more anywhere else.
 
How is Steelers week been in Cincy so far? I find it humorous that the entire city gets geeked up to lose to the Steelers every year. Notice how there is no Bengals week on the Steelers calender.
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haha so true, I was just talking about this with my Steeler buddies. Every year you got those Browns and Bengals all in a tizzy about playing the Steelers. Just another sunday for Pittsburgh fans :D




... actually its an act, we live for games like these
 
Little article on the Raiders popped up in the LA times today.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-nflcol22sep22,1,3027295.column?coll=la-headlines-sports

Raiders Offensive coordinator Tom Walsh at one point helped designed football games for Sega during his 11 year hiatus from the NFL :lol

There's a hilarious picture in the paper of Alvis Whitted (all 185 pounds of him) getting murdered + decapitated by the Ravens running that quick slant across the middle too.
 
Fmt lets bet....

$500 says the texans finish with a worse record than the 9ers.

You think that one over.
 
Matrix said:
Fmt lets bet....

$500 says the texans finish with a worse record than the 9ers.

You think that one over.
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I see what you did there!

$1000 bet that the Texans will draft the second best or worse player with the first pick next year!
 
:lol

I'm not even sure they know how to draft 2nd best players.
 
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Someone want to tell me how Mr. Vick didn't break his ankle, foot, or tear an achilies on this? Millions of Dirty Bird fans were nearly subjected to Matt Schaub as their field general for the rest of the year.
 
The Frankman said:
http://msn.foxsports.com/id/5975382_7_2.jpg

Someone want to tell me how Mr. Vick didn't break his ankle, foot, or tear an achilies on this? Millions of Dirty Bird fans were nearly subjected to Matt Schaub as their field general for the rest of the year.
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Just like how offensive linemen don't break their ankles or legs on every play when they are in the trenches with defensive linemen.
 
tmdorsey said:
Just like how offensive linemen don't break their ankles or legs on every play when they are in the trenches with defensive linemen.
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Just saying that shot of the play looks REALLY ugly. We've seen people get carted off for lesser crap.
 
he should get fined for that, he led with his helmet. don't know what kind of bush league bullcrap parcells is teaching in dallas, but **** the entire cowboys organization i say!
 
Tamanon said:
$1000 bet that the Texans will draft the second best or worse player with the first pick next year!
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I dunno, man. The Raiders are looking like a pretty good frontrunner to waste the first pick in next year's draft. :(
 
Karakand said:
I dunno, man. The Raiders are looking like a pretty good frontrunner to waste the first pick in next year's draft. :(
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That's alright. The Texans will trade their first and second round picks to move up one spot and take someone nobody else was considering in the top ten.
 
bionic77 said:
Speaking of the Texans, how many times has Carr been sacked this year?

After the Giants gave up 8 against the Eagles this may be the first time ever that the Texans are not leading that category after week two.
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Well, the Raiders have given up 15 sacks, Brooks with 7 and Andrew Walter (who?) with 8. Lolpepper has 10, all by his lonesome. Detroit, St Louis and Houston have 9. I'm not sure if those are split between QBs. NYG, KC, Arizona and Seattle all have 8. Wow.
 
MaestroRyan said:
grossman = 8 passing TDs, thomas jones and benson combine for 600 yards on the ground, urlacher kills johnson/bollinger and then rips chester taylor's heart out of his chest and eats it. nathan vasher = 2 FG returns for TDs. brad childress = 3 tantrums, 2 press conference breakdowns, 1 suicide. mewelde moore = 1 good play that sparks hope followed by a wrist injury. chad greenway = retirement

that is how the game will look
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Isn't killing a guy a personal foul? And I assume the eating of one's heart falls under taunting.
 
Dear GAF, start Brian Westbrook or Frank Gore in fantasy?

Keep in mind that Westbrook is having knee problems and may be limited.
 
Wellington said:
Dear GAF, start Brian Westbrook or Frank Gore in fantasy?

Keep in mind that Westbrook is having knee problems and may be limited.
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the same limitation he had against the giants? he did pretty well overall, but westbrook shares minutes with buck and moats might play some this week so u never know.
 
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