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OFFICIAL: Starfield and Redfall delayed to 2023

Shmunter said:
It may be semantics to some, but it is not an Xbox first party. It's a Microsoft owned studio and game.

Same setup as with Sony buying Bungie - will not be under PlayStation
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I should of been more clear sorry , I'm disappointed in Microsoft's offerings on Series X and what's going on with the console in general . To me it feels like the subscription service is it's only saving grace.
 
If people would shut the hell up about "this year is gonna be the best year of gaming ever" maybe we'd actually get that. Loud mouth bastards jinxing it every time

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Companies finally learning that a year of extra cost is worth it when a premature launch can wreck the IP they've worked on for half a decade?
 
ChorizoPicozo said:
Yep. In theory chances would be higher for GoW.
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I'm not sure about that. I mean the employees keep saying it's coming this year plus we have already seen gameplay footage. Not to mention the comments from the graphics artist.

I'm not saying it won't happen but I don't believe the chances of a delay were greater for GoW. I actually would be surprised if they did delay it to be honest.
 
jshackles said:
Pretty disappointing news, I was really looking forward to Starfield later this year. But it's cool, I have plenty of stuff to play in the meantime.

Take your time, and release a good game.
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Agree. Rather they delay and release a great game. I just hope they don't hold off on showing gameplay in June. I am disappointed as well, but I really shouldn't be considering I shouldn't miss something I've never seen.
 
Banjo64 said:
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It'll be 3 in 8 years; FO4, FO76 and Starfield. That's nowhere near as bad as some other devs.
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Fallout 76 doesn't count, it's their GTA online clone and the reason why their SP output is bad and Starfield isn't out, you can't buy it, it's delayed that's the whole point of this thread, so that's 1 game in 10 years, and it doesn't matter what other devs do, this is about Bethesda and i can't blame MS either, it started long before the buy out, they are not the same company they were imo.
 
KyoZz said:
1: Fallout 4 announced June 3 and released November 10 on the same year. Fallout 76? Announced June 13 and release October 23... of the same year.
Now I'm asking you, do you see a pattern? (Spoiler if you don't find the answer: yes! they all announced just a few months before the release date! Incredible right? What a world!)

2: Yeah and other games are announced just a few month before the release, Bethesda is doing things like that and I'm happy with it. As I quoted, Todd himself talked about that., but maybe you know better than him.
And I'm sure if the game was shown before you would have said: "Bethesda & Microsoft are stupid, don't show your game too soon" blablabla... If you want to complain you can always find something.

3: Crying because we don't see a gameplay of a game more than 6 month before the release, trolling people that wait for this game and I am the idiot? Sure, whatever makes you happy.

In the end I will wait the time I need to wait, play the shit out of this game and most likely enjoy it a lot because I'm a big fan of Bethesda. I prefer they take the time to do things right, only them know how to do Skyrim/Fallout like RPGs.
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yea, but no, starfield was announced 4 years ago.
 
Chittagong said:
Companies finally learning that a year of extra cost is worth it when a premature launch can wreck the IP they've worked on for half a decade?
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Cyberpunk got delayed multiple times and that still didn't help that game. Delaying a game may seem like a good thing, but it just puts more pressure on you. Then you finally crack and release it in an unfinished state anyway.

But it's hardly surprising that it's been delayed by a year. The question is, will it still release in 2023? That means no Elder scrolls 6 till at least 2026.
 
MasterCornholio said:
I'm not sure about that. I mean the employees keep saying it's coming this year plus we have already seen gameplay footage. Not to mention the comments from the graphics artist.

I'm not saying it won't happen but I don't believe the chances of a delay were greater for GoW. I actually would be surprised if they did delay it to be honest.
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I agree with you, but we are being stupid. We shouldn't be surprised by delays anymore. Yet here I am agreeing with you that a GoW delay would shock me.
 
Kimahri said:
Before despairing you might consider watching their showcase in a month.

Just a tip.
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A showcase like they did with starfield right? Show games that are literally years away from releasing and then delay those right? I'm just trying to understand the logic low as we have seen time and time again that MS can't get their house in any order at all. But hey, they may just pull off a AAA game a month if this keeps up
 
Smoke6 said:
A showcase like they did with starfield right? Show games that are literally years away from releasing and then delay those right? I'm just trying to understand the logic low as we have seen time and time again that MS can't get their house in any order at all. But hey, they may just pull off a AAA game a month if this keeps up
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I'm still waiting on Avowed thst they also showed like 2 ish years ago at a showcase.
 
It sucks, but I hope they still have alot to show of Starfield in June. If it's scheduled to release first half of 2023 it should be far enough along to make the showcase I would think.
 
But people told me to not worry about the lack of any form of gameplay showed by bethesda, what happened? :lollipop_squinting:

Well i guess it is for the better, more time in the oven=less bugs (hopefully)
 
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Early part of 2023 for Starfield? Yeah, I don't believe that for a second. Expect it to release at the end of 2023 if we're being honest.
 
Unfortunate, but not surprising.

The showcase in June is going to lean heavy on 3rd party timed console exclusives and day 1 Gamepass, isn't it?

Unless they plan on announcing new releases slated for 2022, all of Microsoft's 1st party titles are 2023/2024 and beyond.
 
MasterCornholio said:
I'm not sure about that. I mean the employees keep saying it's coming this year plus we have already seen gameplay footage. Not to mention the comments from the graphics artist.

I'm not saying it won't happen but I don't believe the chances of a delay were greater for GoW. I actually would be surprised if they did delay it to be honest.
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I am taking from a polish standard and time in development point of view.

Santa Monica makes more refined games (visually and performance-wise).

Maybe the scoop is not as big, but Starfield was in development for a longer time as well.
 
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this is one the biggest oofs in gaming, of all time. i dunno why i thought this time things might be different. its bethesda, of course some shit is going to happen

when are games companys going to get their shit together. 8 year dev cycles sometimes longer, 500 million plus spent, delayed for years upon years, little to no updates thorugh out the entirety, and then releasing bugged out half finshed games anyway.
 
I thought Microsoft buying Bethesda would get them the funding they needed to expand, become more efficient and more productive. I remember posting articles here about how Skyrim and Fallout 4 were made by 100 man teams, and I was told that Microsoft's deep pockets would ensure Starfield would be less buggy and release on time.

2 years later, it turns out MS didnt get them the resources they needed after all. Instead, billions were spent acquiring more studios.

Delays are one thing, but delays months after announcing the release date are ridiculous. These companies always knew they would never make this date but they do it anyway. MS knew they had zero games for 2022, but couldnt really say that so they released two teasers, one cg with fake release dates to try and fool us. I knew as soon as they didnt release any gameplay footage last year that this was in trouble. It's like when Sony revealed GOW with a title and said it was a 2021 game. Sure. GT7 and HFW were revealed as 2021 games DURING covid. Surely they knew if covid was impacting development so they straight up knew those games wouldnt make 2021.

Microsoft is now set to have another year with no exclusives. Last year was fine with Halo and Forza, but they had nothing in 2020. How a big first party can go 2 of 3 years without any major releases is beyond me. I thought Sony releasing 3 last gen games in 2022 was bad. It's like they are both jumping over each other to see who can fail better.
 
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ChorizoPicozo said:
I am taking from a polish standard and time in development point of view.

Santa Monica makes more refined games (visually and performance-wise).

Maybe the scoop is not as big, but Starfield was in development for a longer time as well.
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What's the point of having GoW: Rag on the PS4 and making it a cross-gen game, if it was going to still come out in 2023?
 
mortal said:
Unfortunate, but not surprising.

The showcase in June is going to lean heavy on 3rd party timed console exclusives and day 1 Gamepass, isn't it?

Unless they plan on announcing new releases slated for 2022, all of Microsoft's 1st party titles are 2023/2024 and beyond.
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Yeah, it's not a good look for Microsoft when they basically have no big releases for this year. Starfield releasing this year was supposed to be their big announcement.

Does this mean that Bethesda will not be part of the June showcase? Or will they show the game after announcing that it won't come out till 2023.... and let's be honest here, it's not coming out in the early part of 2023; Bethesda typically likes to show the game when it's close to being released.
 
mortal said:
Unfortunate, but not surprising.

The showcase in June is going to lean heavy on 3rd party timed console exclusives and day 1 Gamepass, isn't it?

Unless they plan on announcing new releases slated for 2022, all of Microsoft's 1st party titles are 2023/2024 and beyond.
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They're gonna pull together a trailer of concept art to hold peeps til this drops but none of it gonna actually be gameplay
 
Kev Kev said:
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this is one the biggest oofs in gaming, of all time. i dunno why i thought this time things might be different. its bethesda, of course some shit is going to happen

when are games companys going to get their shit together. 8 year dev cycles sometimes longer, 500 million plus spent, delayed for years upon years, little to no updates thorugh out the entirety, and then releasing bugged out half finshed games anyway.
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And expect it to be a buggy mess when it's released.... even after delays. It's a Bethesda game, and those typical Bethesda RPG games are always buggy as hell when they release. The pressure is on them big time, especially with what happened to Fallout 76.
 
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Nobody got no games. Cocky cunts putting the release date in that Starfield trailer, i blame the soft work culture, need to crunch more.
 
MasterCornholio said:
I'm not sure about that. I mean the employees keep saying it's coming this year plus we have already seen gameplay footage. Not to mention the comments from the graphics artist.

I'm not saying it won't happen but I don't believe the chances of a delay were greater for GoW. I actually would be surprised if they did delay it to be honest.
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Operational employees would not know about those decisions
 
Wow, 2022 will with that be worst gaming year ever for me.

Still can't believe how Beths output has plummeted. Nowadays it's hard to imagine that they actally managed to make 3 full scale games (Oblivion, Fallout 3 and Skyrim) during the 360/PS3 gen. Perhaps you can say even 4 since Fallout 4 seemed like it was ported to the PS4 quite late in development.
 
The Eradicator said:
Sooo... officially going to be 15 years in between Elder Scrolls games. Great planning, Bethesda.
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I doubt that Todd cares. He just got 8 billion..... and let's be honest here, the company has been on the decline since Fallout 4.

After the whole Fallout 76 shitstorm, there is big pressure on them to release a good game. Fallout 4 was decent, but even that had its problems. Skyrim was good, but that had quite a few bugs when it was released.
 
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