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OFFICIAL: Starfield and Redfall delayed to 2023

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Because they can not predict (they can project/estimate) the actual date is gonna be released. But game development is not certain.

"THAT" team should be able to project/estimate with a high level of certainty. There's no reason to miss 2022, if they thought the game would release this year. This isn't their first game in the series. The base game is being developed for the PS4 for goodness sakes.
 
There is a pretty long history of beef between Jason and Bethesda PR and believe to this day he's still blacklisted. I think his tag "press sneak fuck" came out of that beef.
 
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"THAT" team should be able to project/estimate with a high level of certainty. There's no reason to miss 2022, if they thought the game would release this year. This isn't their first game in the series. The base game is being developed for the PS4 for goodness sakes.
And as I said; if it gets delayed it's gonna be weeks no months.
 
As long as they release a good game and I can play it until my Gamepass Ultimate ends in November 2024, I'm good with this.




But hey guys, remember when a bunch of sane people started doubting the 11-11-22 release date because of their weird marketing flex using developer "round tables" and concept art without showing a shred of gameplay footage?
And then some fans got a bit aggressive calling the others "concern trolls" about said comments?

Here's a bunch:



It's almost like they didn't show any gameplay and were trying to gain time with "look at devs promising a good game you need to trust us on this" videos because they actually had nothing worth showing just 6 months before release.
 
Wow, 2022 will with that be worst gaming year ever for me.

Still can't believe how Beths output has plummeted. Nowadays it's hard to imagine that they actally managed to make 3 full scale games (Oblivion, Fallout 3 and Skyrim) during the 360/PS3 gen. Perhaps you can say even 4 since Fallout 4 seemed like it was ported to the PS4 quite late in development.

It's crazy, if you told me they were developing their first new IP in 20 years on a new generation of consoles, during a pandemic, I would believe you!
 
This sentence was bullshit then and is bullshit now.

A game can be great or a turd independently if rushed or delayed.

It's true that with a few extra months devs can fix more bugs or tweak some things, so the quality of the game potentially will be increased thank to the delay. But sometimes the delay is to reduce crunch or when delaying the game they introduce extra work so doesn't give them extra time for polishing or bugfixing. And in a any case, with 3 or 6 months (or a year) you won't turn a turd into a masterpiece.
 
But damn you'd think MS' purchases would have born some fruit by now.

Well I guess they get Deathloop on gamepass but that game looks so boring you'd have to PAY ME to play it.
 
Sucks to high hell, was really looking forward to Starfield, but it will at least put to the test the lie people have screamed about Halo for the longest "all they had to do was delay, and everything would have been fine" "just delay till this or that feature is ready, or more maps are ready, or till co-op campaign is ready." If Halo Infinite had been delayed any further past its initial delay and not released when it did, people would have torn Xbox and Microsoft to shreds for it. There would have been no understanding or patience shown, no priority placed on a quality launch or "releasing it when it's ready." There would have just been endless trolling and nobody would have gotten to play a fantastic game that was clearly in a strong enough state to ship, which is why so many people have so much fun with it and there weren't any massive problems.

There will be a shit load of trolling on this delay, which will to a degree be warranted by the doomsayers who kept saying "where's the gameplay, show me gameplay, no way it releases this year." Well, those people have been proven right to a major degree. It's not releasing this year, but I would also remind them to read the last couple sentences in Bethesda's announcement where they confirm a deep dive into the gameplay of both Redfall and Starfield very soon in the announcement of the delay.

Halo and Starfield are two different things with two different levels of importance, as big as Halo is. 343 did the right thing releasing it when they did and the game was fantastic. MP content and some other features being delayed? Shit happens.

Starfield, however, is a much different beast altogether. This game has so much anticipation, so much hype and so many hopes riding on it. Really it and Redfall are the first two big tests of Microsoft's big gaming, and especially Game Pass, commitments. They will be the first two big new releases - that debut on Xbox consoles and Game Pass from any of Microsoft's megaton $7.5 billion and $68.7 billion gaming acquisitions. Deathloop won't count since that released on Playstation 5 and PC already.

None of these games can afford to release anything less than stellar, most especially Starfield. Starfield must be amazing. It can't afford to have a Cyberpunk type launch (a game I still found amazing, but had its issues at launch that hindered the ability for many to play), and it almost certainly can't afford to launch as badly as Fallout 76 did. Too much is riding on Starfield being as big and as memorable and as epic a release as Skyrim or Fallout 4. It carries that level of importance as Bethesda's first new IP in 25 years, and the first game by the Bethesda leading Maryland team since Fallout 4, which literally sold 12 million copies by launch day.

This date is as big as any Bethesda or any Microsoft studio has set, the date for Starfield. The fact it has been delayed after all that marketing and hype does kill one major talking point, though: the notion that Game Pass' mere existence means games somehow won't get the time, money and investment they deserve. This massive a delay proves that feeding Game Pass doesn't take priority over quality. Look forward to the gameplay footage and whatever else they're releasing this year.
 
Paul Tassi is literally Benny from The Mummy saying a prayer in every language to every god hoping that this will happen.
Pretty much and he could be right but his reasoning is a joke talking bout Starfield seemed further along than Ragnarok(even though we still haven't seen any gameplay Starfield) just because Bethesda doing vidocs even though those vidocs don't show anything significant and just look like like more opportunity for Howard to blow smoke out his ass.
 
Ouch.

Edit: Really thought Starfield would launch this year. Redfall wasn't much of a surprise though.
 
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Bethesda bought to plug the gap in Xbox First Party releases and inadvertently rehighlight the gap possibly too late for MS. It's time to head out and pay stupid money for timed exclusives this Christmas. Otherwise the only first party marketing is Halo:Infinite Season 3 (soft reboot) this November.

Tough for all those waiting for Starfield and I hope the delay isn't too drastic.
 
what I don't understand is that they all claim that the Homeoffice situation benefited their productivity and yet all thing get delayed
 
There will be a shit load of trolling on this delay, which will to a degree be warranted by the doomsayers who kept saying "where's the gameplay, show me gameplay, no way it releases this year." Well, those people have been proven right to a major degree. It's not releasing this year, but I would also remind them to read the last couple sentences in Bethesda's announcement where they confirm a deep dive into the gameplay of both Redfall and Starfield very soon in the announcement of the delay.

Bethesda's statement doesn't say anything about the deep dive being shown "very soon". One would expect to see game play in June at their big showcase, but several folks here told me Bethesda doesn't show gameplay until closer to actual game release. So....

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It's funny how Jason miraculously has these sources after the news breaks. Why not tell us a year ago when you got the info?
To paraphrase Alfred Lord Tennyson
"Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do... give Jason credit even when someone else breaks the news"
 
It was trademarked in 2013 and announced in 2018
And we saw footage in 2014 whether leaked or not, it's been known about, and acknowledged, and was basically an open secret. The point is, as I'm sure you are aware it has been in development since early last gen, and has still yet to launch 2 years into the new gen. Doesn't inspire confidence
 
what I don't understand is that they all claim that the Homeoffice situation benefited their productivity and yet all thing get delayed
Even with camera's and other virtual conferences working from home is not the same as in the office unfortunately.
 
When games get delayed its for the best. Im sure a new IP with Bethesda's main team is gonna have alot of bugs so its better to release without them. Will help the score in the long run.

But for the fans, Im sure $120 For the year of gamepass or however much it is, it isnt really as good of a deal now?

A whole year without 1st party AAA games isnt great. They needed that boost as they are toe to toe with Xbox one sales comparatively.
So there probably gonna have the real… "best e3 ever" as there gonna need to put out all the stops
 
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