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Official Super Mario Galaxy Hands-on Thread - ALL Previews Here
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LanceStern
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I think what he means by Super Mario Sunshine looks more awesome is that the platforming was very dynamic, exciting and TRICKY.
You were triple jumping into a fludd hover on a tight rope to jump to the next higher tight rope, only to fall into a stage where you lost your fludd and had to wallhop 5 times to catch the edge of a ledge and then triple jump to the next platform in which you had to backflip to the next stage where...
Or even in Delfino Plaza, having to triple jump to yoshi, who had to double jump-float to a boat to get over to the pipe. In which you once again lose fludd and have to run around rotating platforms and balance while backflipping onto the next one.
The Platforming was AWESOME guys. And what we've seen so far in Galaxy is standard platforming SO FAR.
And quit with the groupthink hate on Sunshine, it was an extraordinary game. I can't wait for Galaxy
You were triple jumping into a fludd hover on a tight rope to jump to the next higher tight rope, only to fall into a stage where you lost your fludd and had to wallhop 5 times to catch the edge of a ledge and then triple jump to the next platform in which you had to backflip to the next stage where...
Or even in Delfino Plaza, having to triple jump to yoshi, who had to double jump-float to a boat to get over to the pipe. In which you once again lose fludd and have to run around rotating platforms and balance while backflipping onto the next one.
The Platforming was AWESOME guys. And what we've seen so far in Galaxy is standard platforming SO FAR.
And quit with the groupthink hate on Sunshine, it was an extraordinary game. I can't wait for Galaxy
You're talking about the game being in development? Why didn't you say so before? I see what you're saying now, but it shouldn't be that misinterpreting since I quoted titiklabingapat.Tristam said:
P.S. Can someone make a gif of bee Mario swinging?
LanceStern
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tetrisgrammaton said:
Water filling up on a stage of platforms?
That was done in Super Mario World man.
nincompoop
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Wet Dry world was tiny and completely devoid of challenge, much like most of Mario 64's levels. It could've been a pretty good level if they actually incorporated some puzzles that depended on the water level changing mechanic, but as it stands you didn't even have to raise the water level to collect any of the stars.tetrisgrammaton said:
Fourth Storm
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LanceStern said:
QFMFT
nincompoop
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How do you know there won't be a blue coin hunt in Galaxy? LOLWii said:
The blue coin hunt in Sunshine could've used some more polish, like maybe giving us a checklist or something, but it did add a lot to the exploration element.
jj984jj said:You're talking about the game being in development? Why didn't you say so before? I see what you're saying now, but it shouldn't be that misinterpreting since I quoted titiklabingapat.
P.S. Can someone make a gif of bee Mario swinging?
Yeah, haha. I was wondering if you had some kind of crazy insider information.
EDIT: OK before this gets out of hand, Super Mario 64 was a much better game than Super Mario Sunshine.
nincompoop
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Exactly what I wanted to say, thanks!LanceStern said:
I love how you can reach the top of tall walls and buildings by doing a spinning jump into a wall jump and then hovering over. No other 3D platformer can capture the feeling you get in Sunshine when you routhinely pull off maneuvers like this
traveler said:EAD's next project had better be Pikmin 3 OR Mario Paint 2. I'd take either.
Pikmin 3 plz. You mentioned Mario Paint 2 in another thread. What's the point? Open up Microsoft Paint. If there are two things that need to return, it'd be the composer sheet (easily done as a side thing in Wii Music, which should allow for both conducting and composing) and the fly swatter game (could be a WiiWare title).
tetrisgrammaton
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nincompoop said:
i do not think size has anything to do with "good" level design. and raising/lowering the water is required to get some stars, such as the one where you have to ride the elevator lift, or the platforms you must raise to get across to the little arrow blocks.
also the way it requires you to obtain 5 stars before getting the cannon and thusly opening up an entirely new and unexpected section of the level, which is the town square, in order to obtain the final star was pretty amazing
i really like that level, the ambiance, the water-spiders, the cubist city in the background, the remix of level 2, and the design
mario 64s level design is not as good as the games that came before and after it, for sure, but it has its moments
LanceStern said:
do you mean Vanilla Dome 2? because thats a great level. my personal favorite is Vanilla Dome 4, i can play it over and over, just trying to get 1ups from bouncing off multiple bullet bills
SMW has so many great levels
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Firesprite121984
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My brother loved it.Nabs said:Sunshine hate killllllls me. The platforming was great. Sunshine was just pure fun. I'm going to overpay for another copy of this game
I couldn't find the fun in it. I was fighting an overly jittery camera to do anything. The platforming was fun and fine, but the camera just wasn't practical.
I'm sorry Lance and Nabs.
titiklabingapat
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I wasn't into console gaming back in the PS2/GC/Xbox days and one thing stood out and entered my head the first time I heard about Sunshine: that the tropical theme doesn't sit well with "Mario". Palm trees, straws in coconut drinks and suntans aren't things I associated with the Mario universe.
onegoodlogan
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I just love the new music in Galaxy, it's so much more atmospheric than the typical Mario dodado crap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwTZ2xpQwpA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwTZ2xpQwpA
Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
:lol Thats guys voice is amazingonegoodlogan said:
"** I move away from the mic to eat sum chickinz"
:lol
beelzebozo
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yeah, it didn't like you much either
gamergirly
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Looking better and better
Sunshine was pretty fun in most cases. It could have done without the cleaning parts, but the platforming definitely was golden. The platforming here looks great, especially the anti-gravity aspect of it and the various moving and disappearing block puzzles. The way the bee lfies reminds me a LOT of Little Nemo Dream MAster when you became the bee. It had the same limited flying mechanism and honestly, it wasnt as bad as some would think. It requitres a bit of strategy to fly to certain area and I like that. you cant just fly up where you want to go you have to plan for it.
TigersFan said:
It was nothing like mario64-2 though. Flood ****ed up mario, there was no variety in levels, lack of levels, reused tasks, peniitia or whatever are shit characters, lame music, meh level design, small levels, horrible story, bowser=lamed, 60 stars were coin collecting(****rs better not pull the same shit in galaxy)...
i still had fun with the game but it was no where near as good as mario64, hell even the control challenged ds version i play when taking dumps is more fun. the magic is missing in sunshine.
nincompoop
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Actually it isn't, you can climb to any part of the level without ever raising the water by using triple jumps/wall jumps/long jumps. The only time you ever need to raise the water is to reach the pink bobomb to unlock the cannon (though you can still reach the cannon with the water at the lowest level). Playing through the level is really boring and easy if you change the water levels, so I had to come up with my own challenges when playing it to make it more interesting.tetrisgrammaton said:
Cygnus X-1
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legend166 said:
They're becoming one of my favorite developers. Very talented.
LanceStern
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I loved the Pinatas. And really fludd made the game very fun for me. Especially the Noki Beach I think where you could scale a building (or seashell) by triple jumping into a 5 wall hop, then spin jumping into a hover-fludd over to the seashell's edge.
i've got to play that game again. There were so many SKYDIVING AREAS
i've got to play that game again. There were so many SKYDIVING AREAS
Undeniably though, Sunshine's best platforming moments were in the Fluddless void levels. Galaxy's design seems like something of a conceptual throwback to that, eschewing the usual aesthetic world design destractions in favor of pure platforming set piece abstractions. EAD's genius, they've really figured out what does and doesn't work in 3D Mario to focus on for Galaxy...
I agree.jarrod said:
I found SMS disappointing because of so many bits I didn't like, and unfortunately these overshadowed the great parts of the game, like the non water pack levels, which I loved.
SMG looks like the evolution of those platforming levels with no restrictions on the design because of the gravity core of the game. The 'anything can happen' feeling Shimizu and his team have brought looks stunning! And is exactly what I've wanted from a Mario in 3D. The camera system also looks brilliant, and is something I'm really happy about.
I really think the music is a big part of the reason I didnt enjoy Sunshine as much as otherM arios. It felt weak. it was an overdose on sun and beach and even IRL too much of that gets REALLY dull. Sort ofl ike how visiting an island would be totally awesome, but living there is an exercise in monotony.
Damn guys... you're all just making me want to go back and play Sunshine again. It might not be anywhere near the best Mario game, but it was still one of the top platformers of last generation and it had some great moments.
Galaxy looks really amazing. It's hands-down one of the most imaginative and colorful games I've seen in years. I think NiGHTS 2 (if given a proper developer and longer time) could hope to match in those aspects, but as of right now nothing comes close to Galaxy. The space aspect of it is brilliant, as we all know that planets even in real life have different gravities, temperatures (we've seen some very nice looking lava level and and even an underwater segment), and life forms (?!). That just lends really well to a Mario game where varying environments and enemies are key.
Galaxy looks really amazing. It's hands-down one of the most imaginative and colorful games I've seen in years. I think NiGHTS 2 (if given a proper developer and longer time) could hope to match in those aspects, but as of right now nothing comes close to Galaxy. The space aspect of it is brilliant, as we all know that planets even in real life have different gravities, temperatures (we've seen some very nice looking lava level and and even an underwater segment), and life forms (?!). That just lends really well to a Mario game where varying environments and enemies are key.
I played this awesome, awesome game at the E3. Several times. Every demo level (sans the zomgsecret ones which only big websites guys can acess at closed doors). Here there are some bits of info about 2 aspects that the hardcore seems to care about a lot:
Graphics: It looks as if it is on a console other than Wii. Seriously. I kind of feel tricked by the rest of the developers... nah, screw that, by Nintendo itself as well. Why can't every Nintendo game look like this? This game is the living proof that a proper art direction with time of development can create a visually stunning title on the Wii. And when I say "stunning" I mean "stunning", not "stunning... for the Wii". It looks like a 360 title on SD. Then you can argue about the tricks that they used in order to reach that point (empty leveles, extra pikmin, whatever) but it IS impressive. And beautiful.
Difficulty: People that claims that this game is easy are wrong. It is not that "omg the person that it is playing sucks". It is that this game has challenge, but not in the form that the other games have. This game's difficulty doesn't come from ultra smart AI, cheating enemy stats or mindless repetition of a task or enemy: this game is always giving you something new to learn. Your hardcore experience won't help you here. This game's difficulty relies on the capability of adaption to new situations, as if it were an epic, streamlined wario ware. Do you think that it is easy? The first time that you do anything, it is not easy. It is not easy to walk in round planets even if there's only one enemy on it, because guess what? that has never been done in a videogame. And the same goes for every element. You are chasing rabbits, then you are fighting goombas, then you are transforming into a bee, then you war navigating trough asteroids, then you are walking inside a machine with mobile parts... it never repeats, you are always a noob to this game because once you learn something, the game trows you something new at you.
Graphics: It looks as if it is on a console other than Wii. Seriously. I kind of feel tricked by the rest of the developers... nah, screw that, by Nintendo itself as well. Why can't every Nintendo game look like this? This game is the living proof that a proper art direction with time of development can create a visually stunning title on the Wii. And when I say "stunning" I mean "stunning", not "stunning... for the Wii". It looks like a 360 title on SD. Then you can argue about the tricks that they used in order to reach that point (empty leveles, extra pikmin, whatever) but it IS impressive. And beautiful.
Difficulty: People that claims that this game is easy are wrong. It is not that "omg the person that it is playing sucks". It is that this game has challenge, but not in the form that the other games have. This game's difficulty doesn't come from ultra smart AI, cheating enemy stats or mindless repetition of a task or enemy: this game is always giving you something new to learn. Your hardcore experience won't help you here. This game's difficulty relies on the capability of adaption to new situations, as if it were an epic, streamlined wario ware. Do you think that it is easy? The first time that you do anything, it is not easy. It is not easy to walk in round planets even if there's only one enemy on it, because guess what? that has never been done in a videogame. And the same goes for every element. You are chasing rabbits, then you are fighting goombas, then you are transforming into a bee, then you war navigating trough asteroids, then you are walking inside a machine with mobile parts... it never repeats, you are always a noob to this game because once you learn something, the game trows you something new at you.
onegoodlogan
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Side note: I didn't want to turn this into a Mario music debate, I actually like Sunshine's music to a degree, I just needed an excuse to rainroll some people.
