toddhunter
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Same mouth, without tight bandages. Confirmed fake.
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Same mouth, without tight bandages. Confirmed fake.
CosmicGroinPull
Member
I just realised something: the thick bandages around his nose must make it hard to breathe.
FearMyWrench
Member
Did I just step into Crazytown?
If it turns out this is true, I will eat 3 hats.
If it turns out this is true, I will eat 3 hats.
flipswitch
Member
That's the beauty of CGI. It doesn't need to breathe.
Especially since he never opens his mouth.
Of course it's a psychological phenomenon. Just because you can't find the uncanny valley on google maps doesn't mean it's not real.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
It's reaching but I guess if you want to put a spin on it we can entertain the thought.
Dr_Boris_Goltz
Banned
Same mouth, without tight bandages. Confirmed fake.
The mouth area being so comparable is what tips me over the edge to the "he's CG!" side of this.
If he's real then I blame my insatiable need for future technological developments to hurry the fuck up.
Thats what I am talking about. Yep.
We are at the carnival of stupid. I think Crazytown is the next stop.
Also one has a beard and the other one has no facial hair.
U n i o n 0015
Member
Find it very odd that GAF will blow their top about Dorritos Gate but in this instance where a journo and a game developer are so very clearly working together to promote a game, there's more talk about who the guy is than the motivation behind this.
Just tell us about the game, I don't need the shenanigans and the faux journalism.
Just tell us about the game, I don't need the shenanigans and the faux journalism.
Meatvillain
Banned
This has always been what GTTV is, there's less information in here than a normal GTTV segment, but there really is no sense of "journalism" in any episode of GTTV, really.
Air Zombie Meat
Member
It's Keighley. Everyone knows hes a hype man. Doritos gate wasn't really about him by the way.
PairOfFilthySocks
Member
Oh god I'm dying here.
SlipperyFishes
Banned
Just to add to the confusion the cover of EDGE magazine really wants to fuck with us too.
SketchTheArtist
Member
He's covering evertyhing on his face except his mouth and eyes for a reason. The muscle movement being covered are the hardest to replicate.
I've seen some next-gen characters where I work and we're getting there so I wouldn't be surprised. Exciting times!
I've seen some next-gen characters where I work and we're getting there so I wouldn't be surprised. Exciting times!
catapult37
Member
I 100% believe this is true. The separate frames, the dark background. The bandages probably let them put more detail in the parts of the face that are visible. If I had to guess, the wide shot of him that Geoff tweeted might be a real actor. I'm totally sold on the theory that the interview version was Fox Engine, though.
U n i o n 0015
Member
True, I guess it's just rather sad that when the game comes out, the 5/5 (or whatever their review system is) is in the bag because they took a load of cash from Konami to promote this.
Charoncaori
Member
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/engineering/robots/4343054
The original uncanny valley theory is complete pseudoscience. Fake. We have convinced ourselves there is some truth to it and because the first thing everyone thinks of when they see CG and robots is "uncanny valley", it alters our expectations.
More study needs to be done about it. There might be some slight truth to it, and CG is only just approaching the point where we aren't easily able to distinguish it from the real thing. But citing "uncanny valley" as a reason why you think something looms bad is ridiculous and unhelpful, and unscientific. Can you map creepiness on an absolute graph? No, because creepy varies from person to person. But if multiple people say something is creepy, or you're put into a situation where you expect to see creepiness, their opinions will be likely to affect yours.
It's a colossal waste of time.
Edit: here, an example of what I think is going on. You ever see a horror movie, and come home alone, in the dark? You feel a bit creeped out, and you pay close attention to every shadow, making sure nothing's going to jump out and get you. It's different from if you just went home normally, because the movie has altered your expectations. Similar effect.
toddhunter
Member
This was never journalism to begin with. Nothing on Keighley's show is. Because of that and the fun angle, I'm okay with it.
Conciliator
Banned
Perhaps...everyone is CG rendered by the Fox Engine.
toddhunter
Member
Judging by the silent hill HD collections, they already managed to travel into the future to create the original versions of silent hill 2 and 3. Not too much of a stretch to suggest that we are also future konami work too.
Please, that's a crock of shit.
As I already said, we're actually algorithms in Konami's next gen AI code. We've been created to come up with dynamic story and dialog.
Did you ever have a dream and then about a week later it actually happened to you?
That's called a buffer overflow.
Now arent we fast? We already found out that we are all rendered by the Fox engine pages ago. You should ask someone to finetune or replace your out of date reaction circuit.
angular graphics
Banned
Why did they make the textures for his face (left side) so clean? The right side (photograph) it's not. I mean you can tell which side is CG just from the texture work instead of the rendering capabilities, no?
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
We were CG all along. That's going to be the big reveal, right? This entire world we've preceived has been Kojima's matrix from day one.
DecoyOctopus
Member
I still think the neck looks way too realistic to be CG! If it turns out to be CG...consider me mindblown!
You did see this, right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYgLFt5wfP4
Oh and you should see me in person! Almost lifelike.
Charoncaori
Member
The right side is actually a photo? The left looks kind of low poly, you can see edges on his ears. It looks like a very quick render. Maybe the right is a more high quality render? (my logical side is telling me that's highly unlikely).
Edit: and the wire frame over it is messing with my perception. Maybe it's a gradient or something. The chin looks better than the top. Eh.
All I saw were tufts of hair, but I didn't get to watch in very high quality.
I can believe this.
Rickenslacker
Banned
lol CG, only Kojima can turn people this insane.
pause the youtube video at like 1:49 and look at the left. You can see a strand of hair sticking straight up
I can't believe i bothered to do this...
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to lose time in things like that instead of actually release a game?
angular graphics
Banned
People who think that the actor playing Joakim was CG need to get their eyes checked. The one prime reason why some may feel that he is a CG character may have to do with the black t-shirt he was wearing, essentially making him look a floating head from time to time.
One can tell that it isn't CG by seeing that numerous little random twitches and movements on his face and of his head respectively. To this day, even in movie CGs, this constant twitches/little jerks that encompasses all primary movements have not been properly replicated.
One can tell that it isn't CG by seeing that numerous little random twitches and movements on his face and of his head respectively. To this day, even in movie CGs, this constant twitches/little jerks that encompasses all primary movements have not been properly replicated.
toddhunter
Member
Charoncaori
Member
Ah, I see it. I think that's more than a strand, though. (and it was there for the whole video.) Quick, someone run a follicle analysis!
Haha, is anyone else seeing that weird dimple in his bandages on that side of his face, though? Like the weird snake scar comparison pictures.