I NEED SCISSORS
Banned
I may as well pay a hooker to beat me up with bats.
LovingSteam said:If you have a Mac/PC you don't need the hardware since you already have it. If you want to simply use your TV then you need the console.
demigod said:Ohh I get what you're saying now. I was under the impression from everyone here that you *rent* the adapter(hardware to run OnLive) from them even on PC/Mac. Streaming from broadband with compressed data, yeah people this isn't going to look as good as a $500 gaming rig.
lol not going to happen.Mr Pockets said:So not sure this has been covered....but how hard is it to convert this service to work on 360/PS3?
I mean it would be cool to play PC games on your console I suppose ;P
Mr Pockets said:So not sure this has been covered....but how hard is it to convert this service to work on 360/PS3?
I mean it would be cool to play PC games on your console I suppose ;P
Oh, whatever. In principle it could be useful for that sort of thing even if their list doesn't include Valve games.brain_stew said:Sorry to be the bringer of bad news but Valve aren't an Onlive partner, nor will they ever be.
Slavik81 said:Oh, whatever. In principle it could be useful for that sort of thing even if their list doesn't include Valve games.
I would have presumed that they might get a deal somewhat like Valve's cybercafe system, but I suppose Valve might object if they think the services are competing.
MisterAnderson said:So what happens if I buy a shit ton of games and then decide I don't want to pay for the service anymore? Games that I can't even use as paperweights?
Who the fuck is going to be stupid enough to use this service?
I'll take Steam kthxbai.
Fake edit: Aren't OnLive games max resolution 1280 x 720 as well?
Pretty much. That's more or less the same reason why I hate buying subscription MMOs and renting games. When your stop paying your subscription, you don't have anything left to show for it.MisterAnderson said:So what happens if I buy a shit ton of games and then decide I don't want to pay for the service anymore? Games that I can't even use as paperweights?
Slavik81 said:Oh, whatever. In principle it could be useful for that sort of thing even if their list doesn't include Valve games.
I would have presumed that they might get a deal somewhat like Valve's cybercafe system, but I suppose Valve might object if they think the services are competing.
:lol :lolthetrin said:I can't wait to pay for nothing, and then pay even more for something to use on my nothing. I then can't wait to stop paying for my nothing, thereby cutting off my ability to use my something.
Le-mo said:So you are basically paying $14.95 a month for a digital harddrive?
More like an entire computer. Renting hard drive space for online backup is only about $5/month.Le-mo said:So you are basically paying $14.95 a month for a digital harddrive?
Slavik81 said:More like an entire computer. Renting hard drive space for online backup is only about $5/month.
...satori said:Lol I always thought this service was going to include console games as well. There goes my hopes of playing GOW3 on my long days at work on my lap top! ><
Onlive: it only does everything.satori said:Lol I always thought this service was going to include console games as well. There goes my hopes of playing GOW3 on my long days at work on my lap top! ><
thehillissilent said:The OP needs to be modified to add the Onlive Game Portal Information so people cannot be so up in arms about it. The do seem to go the Gametap\Xbox Live route with this with offering tiers of services. I think it's a smart idea.
I probably won't sign up for a subsciption. But atleast, I can stream demos for free instead of having to pay for a subscription just to do that. Also, having the ability to rent "select" games without having to subscribe is a smart idea as well so people can demo the service.
I do believe that they will gimp the service for non-subscribers such as the bandwidth. You'll probably be playing demos in 480p instead of 720p like subscribers or they will limit demos to certain times of the day.
It also would be smart for them to offer free rentals of older titles to get people to sign up. I like to hear their promotional offerings. I'm more interested now that they announced the Onlive Game Portal.
brain_stew said:At the very least, there's now a way to rent PC games. That's cool in my book, its always nice to have an extra option.
Sebulon3k said:My room mate tried to convince me to get onto the pre registration for this, all I could do was :lol
How does anyone think this is a good idea?
brain_stew said:At the very least, there's now a way to rent PC games. That's cool in my book, its always nice to have an extra option.
Sebulon3k said:My room mate tried to convince me to get onto the pre registration for this, all I could do was :lol
How does anyone think this is a good idea?
KittyKittyBangBang said:This is really my main interest in the whole mess, it would make Gamefly go the way of the dinosaur. Having instant access to any rental game is HUGE IMO, and something that the console platform holders should look at.
The big question is selection, which I will assume is going to be pretty sparse for the first few months or so.
CrayzeeCarl said:I still don't understand how they could possibly afford to run this thing with hundreds of thousands (maybe millions) of concurrent users. I'm guessing they have a bunch of big beefy servers that can handle several games at once, but I can't imagine how expensive a system is that can handle many multiple instances of Crysis.
I realize not everyone will be playing the latest and greatest games. Maybe I'm missing something here.
Yeah, I assumed they were using virtualization, but virtualization isn't some magic thing that doesn't use any resources, it still runs on the same hardware. I guess renting the servers makes sense.thehillissilent said:They are using virtualization so they can run multiple games on one server.
EDIT: Also they are renting these servers, so it cheaper than outright buying them. I assume that they have written virtualization software to have mutliple game instances running in a single graphics card. They probably have multiple graphics cards per server anyway.
If InstantAction.com's CEO Lou Castle is to be believed, we're apparently going to be playing games pretty much wherever we want in the not-so-distant future. He's just revealed plans (via IndustryGamers) to relaunch his site with a new business/distribution model and a partnership with game streaming service Gaikai. In addition to the already existing model of a quick download (a claimed 4 - 5 minutes) that still somewhat relies on your computer power to process the game's graphics, IA will now offer a streaming option for those who'd prefer a quicker, less hardware reliant gaming experience. "It's the perfect implementation of a thin client solution because when it's available it's brilliant and when it's not available it's ok ... you only have to wait a couple minutes."
The aforementioned streaming option (employing Gaikai) will also be embedabble on the web, as demonstrated with Assassin's Creed (not to mention to us earlier today) "Now if people are reading a review of a game, they don't have to go find it ... they can play it right then and there in the browser."
And that's just the beginning -- Castle clearly has an eye on digital distribution services when he talks about employing Facebook as "InstantAction's Xbox Live." IA's new distribution model essentially promises to developers/publishers the ability to release games with a variety of payment methods (pay as you go, free-to-play, one-time charge, etc.) while incorporating the aforementioned embed and streaming functionalities.
So far, the company has inked one deal for distribution (with LucasArts for The Secret of Monkey Island: Special Edition) and Castle claims to be pursuing others right now. And apparently it won't be too long before we get to check out the new system ourselves, as the revamped digital platform is said to be "launching soon."
Meeting with Gaikai's founding fathers -- ( from left to right) Rui Pereira, Andrew Gault and David Perry -- this morning, we chatted about the company's unique take on "cloud gaming," particularly how, unlike competitor OnLive, there will be no fee to play streaming games using its servers and in-browser app, and what it's doing to "reduce friction" in trying (and eventually buying) games online.
Saying that Gaikai "isn't trying to be PlayStation 4 or take out the next Wii," Perry described (and demoed) the concept of embedding instantly playable games on any website. A publisher can, for instance, have a clickable pop-up appear when people are looking at one of its games on Amazon, which quickly launches an overlay window running the full game, with whatever time limit the publisher chooses. After this period, players can opt to buy the game for unlimited streaming, download it, or have a physical copy shipped to them.
What intrigued us more is the ability to Tweet from within these demos, and, if you're playing a multiplayer title, anyone who clicks the link sent to your Twitter feed will be launched into your game. We also got a look at a widget that places a small video of any game you're currently playing via Gaikai on your personal blog, which friends can click to either try the game or actually join the session you're in, if applicable. This demo used Mario Kart 64, in which it was possible for Gaikai staff to drop in as player two, three or four fairly easily.
Perry also revealed to us that Gaikai has secured servers at 300 data centers across the US (as opposed to OnLive's five), in addition to inking deals with local broadband providers to install servers at another 900 peering locations -- all with the goal of keeping latency as low as possible. The ideas we saw in action have the potential to shake up the traditional game demo model, for sure. What do you think of what Gaikai's cooking up?
Ninja-Matic said:Who in their right minds would fall for such antics? Monthly fee + fee for buying games you can never really keep anyhow != good deal.
vireland said:Heh, thanks for the advice.
Here's a clue from me. It takes 30 seconds to set up a deal alert at a site like slickdeals (CAG has alerts, too). Put in a few keywords and it emails you when a matching deal is posted. If the price isn't what you want, delete the email and wait for the next one. Buy when you get sent a deal that hits your threshhold. Cumulative time spent screening if your keywords don't give too many false posiitives: probably about 10 minutes a year. Savings off retail? Usually about $22/card for me, sometimes more.
woah now postal rental services are at their all time high right now, onlive is not going to stop it anytime soon, not even for a few years yet.KittyKittyBangBang said:This is really my main interest in the whole mess, it would make Gamefly go the way of the dinosaur. Having instant access to any rental game is HUGE IMO, and something that the console platform holders should look at.
The big question is selection, which I will assume is going to be pretty sparse for the first few months or so.
Tell us something or GTFO.thehillissilent said:To let you guys know, I'm currently participating in the beta. Unfortunately, I can't really share anything due to NDA
It's like a deathtrap. Stop the subscription and lose all well not your games since you never owned them, but you did bought them.Ninja-Matic said:15 bucks per month AND a fee for buying the game - then when you discontinue the service... you lose everything you bought?
Maybe my enfeebled mind can't process this information properly but I think a service like this is a sinking ship even before it launches.
Who in their right minds would fall for such antics? Monthly fee + fee for buying games you can never really keep anyhow != good deal.
thehillissilent said:To let you guys know, I'm currently participating in the beta. Unfortunately, I can't really share anything due to NDA
I <3 Memes said:You don't need to say anything as the frown face says it all. Obviously not a very fun experience.
One thing I would like to ask, are you trying out onlive over an old pc/laptop or do you have a gaming pc?thehillissilent said:I wouldn't say that. I actually like the service I put the frown because I can't speak about it. All I can say is that it works.
Diablohead said:One thing I would like to ask, are you trying out onlive over an old pc/laptop or do you have a gaming pc?
thehillissilent said:I wouldn't say that. I actually like the service I put the frown because I can't speak about it. All I can say is that it works.