http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/54770/miyamoto-eiji-aonuma-doesnt-need-me-anymore/
Well, let's see how Zelda Wii U goes.
Well, let's see how Zelda Wii U goes.
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ONM: Miyamoto: "Eiji Aonuma doesn't need me anymore."
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Nothing1016
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Look at what happened when Aonuma wasn't a director. We got Skyward Sword, the weakest 3D entry yet. I still think Aonuma has it, just needs to get back to his creative roots that inspired MM.
Miyamoto was the concept designer behind Galaxy. He can stay as long as he wants.
I don't think its harsh at all, especially after the way he ruined Paper Mario: Sticker Star.
Valjean Lafitte
Banned
I don't even have the words. Unless with the next game Aonuma can turns around and finally delivers a monumental, system-selling hit a la Ocarina of Time, this is bullshit and Miyamoto might be losing it. His presence is needed more than ever in both series (not specifically him, but somebody who gets what people like about Mario and Zelda--it could be Hideki Konno, Takashi Tezuka, or someone new!) Yoshiaki Koizumi needs to switch jobs with Aonuma, blah blah, same shit I say every Aonuma thread, but also this: If Miyamoto really believes in Koizumi and is wiling to relinquish more control of the Mario series to him, he needs to back off next time the man wants to add more cut scenes to 3D Mario.
Shikamaru Ninja
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If you were the "concept designer" and verbally told the team "why don"t you guys put Mario in Brooklyn", I am sure that development team would have still delivered one of the greatest 3D platformers ever.
I thought skyward sword was one of the best? Almost all the reviews hailed it as one of the best Zelda if i remember correctly....was it not good?
It was controversial. Some like me love it. Others do not.
Valjean Lafitte
Banned
This is true, but I think it is important to have someone like Miyamoto step in and steer a project in the right direction when it begins to drift off-target. "Upending the tea table", I think they call it? But he probably isn't as needed in the Mario series much beyond a (still very important) adviser role.
MagicWithEarvin
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So, just like every 3D Zelda game ever.
It was a good game. However, it was bogged down with a lot of "busy work" quests that artificially padded the play time. Would've been better served with actual substantial dungeons.
The dungeons that it did have, however, were fantastic. The overworld also was "lazy" per se, but I understand their intent.
Overall, I would play again. The Wii Motion Plus actually made it a joy to play, and I hate motion controls.
It's a critical darling, but it gets a lot of user backlash for Fi's handholding and the focus on motion controls.
I have hardly seen anyone who says Ocarina of Time was bad.
I thought it was the greatest videogame of all time?
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I'm guessing that we have no idea who is directing Zelda Wii U? Aonuma is obviously producing, but I'd be happy for Hidemaro Fujibayashi to return and give it another crack. Skyward Sword had a lot of great stuff going on, as did Minish Cap.
It's weak in some aspects but its still awesome. Probably the overworld structure and how the player travels to and fro is the most undesirable aspect which boils down to a design decision. Something someone wanted to try.
lo zaffo
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Everybody should have argued by reading Iwata Asks about the Legend of Zelda.
Actually Iwata Asks about the Legend of Zelda involves more than Aonuma, also Iwamoto and staff members. Being the Legend of Zelda such a big project, Miyamoto can't run it acting like a leader the way he'd like it to be.
Actually Iwata Asks about the Legend of Zelda involves more than Aonuma, also Iwamoto and staff members. Being the Legend of Zelda such a big project, Miyamoto can't run it acting like a leader the way he'd like it to be.
It was different, but not in the "finally they innovated the stuff which was getting repetitive" sense, more like in the "they changed lots of things, but those were the good things, like free exploration, yet they kept all the same old repetitive stuff (dungeon-item-boss defeated with item)" sense.
Skyward Sword was alright. It didn't have the best overworld or story, but its presentation was spot on. The cutscenes, music and gameplay were all very good.
I actually played the game in front of my girlfriend who isn't a gamer, and she was hooked until the end. That's a good thing.
I actually played the game in front of my girlfriend who isn't a gamer, and she was hooked until the end. That's a good thing.
New Mario game.
Brainiac 8
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He just made one of the best games in the Zelda series with Skyward Sword, so I think he's doing great.
Robobandit
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I realize my opinion may not be shared by many people, but I felt that Skyward Sword was better than Twilight Princess in almost every conceivable way.
I stopped playing Twilight Princess half way through and didn't finish it for 6 months because I got bored of it.
I stopped playing Twilight Princess half way through and didn't finish it for 6 months because I got bored of it.
It split opinion, even more-so than other 3D Zelda games.
In my opinion, it's a wonderful game (probably all things considered my favorite 3D Zelda after Wind Waker), but Nintendo made several absolutely bone-headed decisions while developing the game (sparse overworld, item messages constantly appearing, no nightime exploration). Despite that, imo the dungeons and bosses are among the best in the series, the artstyle is amazing, the story and setting was great, the upgradable equipment was a welcome addition and the controls were fantastic (I never go the hate for them). Basically, I think it was great, but it so easily could have been even better if just a few changes were made.
Well as far as I know many/most of the concepts that make MM special are Koizumi's doing.
Valjean Lafitte
Banned
My theory is that the people who dislike Skyward Sword the most are the ones that want the series to return to the "swords n' sorcery" style of games like Link to the Past and Ocarina of Time.
More this and this
than this and this
More bad-ass, less lame-ass. Its not so hard to not put useless and off-putting cutesy crap in a series that's largely about saving a princess from a demonic pig wizard.
Yup. Now if only someone had the balls to tell Miyamoto that..
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
My heart aches for those who do not appreciate Skyward Sword.
Truly they are lost.
Truly they are lost.
IrishNinja
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Aonuma has yet to make a bad Zelda game, and based on a lot of what we've seen/read i think he's got a great vision for it, really looking forward to details on this one
ah, didn't realize he'd done both...yeah, i'm down for that! loved the crap out of them.
whycantwehaveboth.jif
for real, if you want one without the other, play another series. those elements are exactly new.
many here love his input on MM, but has he helmed a chapter on his own yet? i'm down for more of his ideas for sure
ah, didn't realize he'd done both...yeah, i'm down for that! loved the crap out of them.
whycantwehaveboth.jif
for real, if you want one without the other, play another series. those elements are exactly new.
many here love his input on MM, but has he helmed a chapter on his own yet? i'm down for more of his ideas for sure
w1gglyjones
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Awesome jacket
Differing opinions. I couldn't put Twilight Princess down when I started playing it. However many things in Skyward Sword bored me. I got really tired of flying after a while, especially going back and forth to the temple. It just seemed to take so long to fly anywhere.
I also didn't care for the motion controls. I found combat frustrating and minigames like the one where you have to hit the spinning target while falling even more frustrating.
Damn, you don't play many games do you, lol.
Majukun
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it's one of my least favourite 3d zelda,but the title of worst of all goes to wind waker
Whenever I enter a Zelda thread, my heart turns to stone so it doesn't break.
I love both games and I'm not entirely sure which one I prefer, but looking at it more objectively, I think SS is the better game. They fixed most problems TP had, difficulty is well balanced, there's a hard mode, boss rush, the world is packed with things to do, no item or area is a one-off, single use affair, there's a much better secondary cast, they broke free of many of the series' cliches when it comes to structure and dungeons, it tries lots if new things including the combat, controls and structure and the economy is fixed. It's an oustanding game, not without its flaws, but that goes without saying for pretty much any game (although I'd say OoT is flawless in its context).
Try me.
I'm whit you, but hey! wait for the Zelda U release, and SS will be a masterpiece.
Btw, I agree with Miya. Leave Aonuma alone, think about your latest IP and...retire.
Note: I love him and his games. But Aonuma and at least Tezuka should really become the new first party lead developers
If by ruin you mean advising Intelligent Systems to focus on "existing characters" then fair enough.
It was already shallow without his input.
This is a delicious thought. Aonuma Mario in return perhaps.
I guess I'll wait until we get to play A Link Between Worlds in order to judge whether or not Aonuma thinks handholding should be a thing in Zelda from now on. Because the handholding aspect of Skyward Sword was the least fun aspect of said game. If they truly have learned from this mistake, as they stated in interviews, I'm gonna look forward to Zelda U even more.
Moral Panic
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Story from a bad anime, horrible overworld, sucky controls, boring repetitive tears pickup challenges, boring repetitive demise fights, Fi who takes the charge as the one of the most annoying thing to ever exist in a videogame (YES IM LOW ON HEALTH I CAN SEE THAT).
Game was average at best.
w1gglyjones
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Wife swap?
Muchi Muchi Pink
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Pikmin 3?
same here