Tizoc
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Ono trying to keep Darkstalkers to stay not dead.
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You know you want it though!
CrispyBoar
Banned
LOL...
I'd give the job to Arc System Works instead. They do a fantastic job on sprites, animations, etc. for their games (such as Guilty Gear Xrd Revelator, Persona 4 Arena: Ultimax & BlazBlue: Central Fiction for starters).
Exactly.
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I love Darkstalkers 3, I meant 4. Lol I just woke up.
Really? After a few sessions of people tutoring me my hands were wrecked. BB Hood can stay on the back burner.
I just did a review on Darkstalkers 3 so with Darkstalkers fresh on my mind a new one would be great. As far as graphical style is concerned I think it would benefit from an artstyle similar to Skullgirls because of it's cartoonish nature or maybe street fighter 5 but with that ink effect as the main basis for the visuals.
The problem with MvC3's look is that it doesn't have the cartoonish nature. Even SF4 managed to pull that off but it's so limited.
I mean, you never see Morrigan in 3D with this look.
I guess, I've seen IV and V's "close up :O" face, but I feel it's not enough for DS.
I mean, can you see them make 3D models like this?
DS characters had so many transformations, burned, stung, depowered by anakaris, ball, inflated, midnight bliss, Disco. they don't put this much effort any more.
LordRaptor
Member
I think everyone agrees that GGXrd style is what we really want from a new VS
I agree with your overall point, but I don't think its due to effort. Making an entire new model which is used for a fraction of a second isn't really as feasible as just making a new sprite. A new, high quality model is a lot of effort.
If they were to do a new Dark Stalkers, I would imagine there has to be some sort of reduction or removal of the unique poses, but that does seem to be removing a lot of the design. It would be interesting to see Ono's approach.
Dimitri LH
Member
....your starting to get on my better side Ono. Keep it up. =P
DS4 or a true Darkstalkers definitive edition with all characters in one version please.
DS4 or a true Darkstalkers definitive edition with all characters in one version please.
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Jotamide
Unconfirmed Member
Darkstalkers 3 is Capcom's best fighting game of all time. What I wouldn't give for a sequel.
OmnipotentO
Member
https://youtu.be/Q_skngJlTDg
they ARE dead ;_;
they ARE dead ;_;
Gentleman Jack
Member
Isn't this what they did with SFV, minus the 'low price' part? I see little incentive for them to copy KI's pricing model.
CrispyBoar
Banned
I agree, for what? The Vampire/Darkstalkers series doesn't have a huge roster of characters like other fighting game series such as Mortal Kombat or Street Fighter does.
They only have a total of 20 characters to do, plus of course, 3 or 4 new characters if they want to do so.
Ordinaryundone
Member
It'd be a great time to bring back Ruby Heart, Amingo, Son Son, and Red Arremer/Firebrand too.
B
bomb
Unconfirmed Member
Seems like a perfect opportunity for Nintendo to jump in with funding.
They might as well do Capcom Vs. Capcom then.
notworksafe
Member
I love me some VSav but no thanks. Capcom of 2016 cannot be trusted to make a proper follow up.
Are you saying that just because of the SFV backlash?
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
SFV gameplay is pretty great so I'd love to see a new DarkStalkers. 
The problem with MvC3's look is that it doesn't have the cartoonish nature. Even SF4 managed to pull that off but it's so limited.
I mean, you never see Morrigan in 3D with this look.
I guess, I've seen IV and V's "close up :O" face, but I feel it's not enough for DS.
I mean, can you see them make 3D models like this?
The best asnwer still is "Arcsys does it", but could Capcom as it is now achieve the same kind of thing?
Triple Da G.O.D!
Member
We're back to this again.
I respect the game plan Ono but this ship to the underworld has long sailed.
Darkstalkers is something special and was and still is important to fighting games right now seeing as every game since The Night Warriors owes it something.
Savior was the lighting in a bottle and nobody alive's recapturing that and those looking for that in whatever Ono's looking to follow up Savior with will be disappointed no matter what the final outcome is and just go back home. This is the HD Remix school of theory.
Resurrection wasn't the answer. The fault of that game came simply because there wasn't a market nor mindshare for it and it was straddled with the fate of a future it was never going to see or live up to. It came way too late to matter. Something like that should've hit a bit after 4 dropped and not in 2013 and seeing the want it served was better served elsewhere and better served elsewhere on top of that.
The thing is that everybody's currently playing what's going to be the answer to what you think you need in V. I see cross-over characters from the franchise in question & others and the basis for Capcom vs Capcom in that game's future. The game stumbled out of the gate but that doesn't mean that the game isn't in it for the full run. Nobody will remember or care about the start when the finish comes around and that much is true.
End of the day, the Darkstalkers are better off dead but I'm damn sure glad they lived!
I respect the game plan Ono but this ship to the underworld has long sailed.
Darkstalkers is something special and was and still is important to fighting games right now seeing as every game since The Night Warriors owes it something.
Savior was the lighting in a bottle and nobody alive's recapturing that and those looking for that in whatever Ono's looking to follow up Savior with will be disappointed no matter what the final outcome is and just go back home. This is the HD Remix school of theory.
Resurrection wasn't the answer. The fault of that game came simply because there wasn't a market nor mindshare for it and it was straddled with the fate of a future it was never going to see or live up to. It came way too late to matter. Something like that should've hit a bit after 4 dropped and not in 2013 and seeing the want it served was better served elsewhere and better served elsewhere on top of that.
The thing is that everybody's currently playing what's going to be the answer to what you think you need in V. I see cross-over characters from the franchise in question & others and the basis for Capcom vs Capcom in that game's future. The game stumbled out of the gate but that doesn't mean that the game isn't in it for the full run. Nobody will remember or care about the start when the finish comes around and that much is true.
End of the day, the Darkstalkers are better off dead but I'm damn sure glad they lived!
notworksafe
Member
No. I'm saying it because Capcom in general is more interested in graphics and mini-cutscenes than making an extremely fast paced game these days. An SFV in the vein of SF4 or SF5 (or even MVC3) would be just too slow to be interesting or a proper sequel.
I don't trust them to do it service either, and for me it's because of how they've handled pretty much everything after SF4. Street Fighter X Tekken had the whole gem nonsense and was poorly received overall. It was a fighting game left to die. MvC3 was essentially a barebones beta for UMvC3. SFV launched with little content, broken online play, and issues with joysticks and controllers not properly working. Those two problems aren't even really fixed yet.
And this is just their fighting games we're talking about.
LordRaptor
Member
Well we know they can make a decent fighting game in the unreal engine, because SFV is a decent fighting game in the Unreal engine.
I also don't doubt they have the technical skills to make something beautiful in a fully cel-shaded style, because they made Auto-modelista before it was cool
EYEL1NER
Member
The possibility is there that they could benefit from a release like that but that business model and release schedule has absolutely zero appeal for me. I would rather wait a year and pay more for a more complete release (and purchase updated versions later on) than see a digital-only bare bones version come out for a low/free price with more later to keep buying. I don't like the 'platform' model at all.
I have had a bit of fun with Killer Instinct, though I haven't gotten too much of a chance to play it (updates were too big for me to download at the remote isolated location I was at for a couple years and the system detected an update when I was online once and wouldn't start without downloading it, so I was unable to boot the game for over a year). I haven't had the chance to learn it fully yet but I haven't seen a lot wrong with the game, other than my distaste for the business and release model. I received the S1 Combo Pack for free from MS before the Xbox One launched and purchased S2 for dirt-cheap in January. If I hadn't gotten those deals on it, I would probably still be waiting on a great sale to purchase any of the content, whereas I would buy a physical disc with all that content on it at full-price on day one.
Smooth Operator
Member
If you know how good Darkstalkers III is, you already know that a new Darkstalkers won't even come close.
Ivan Amiibo
Banned
Thought Resurrection sold fine but Capcom had ridiculous projections for it in order to greenlight a new game.
In any case, yeah, sure, wouldn't mind seeing it. But I think they're sticking to one fighting game at a time this gen and SFV has years ahead of it.
In any case, yeah, sure, wouldn't mind seeing it. But I think they're sticking to one fighting game at a time this gen and SFV has years ahead of it.
Emperor Bohe
Member
Am I the only person that preferred Vampire Hunter: Darkstalker's Revenge over Vampire Savior/Darkstalkers 3?
I'd could be an incredibly weird choice to fund this over a Megaman reboot, if they were to fund a capcom ip.
Then again, i think nobody saw them coming with funding bayonetta 2.
Nailed it. Worry about your half-finished game before thinking of the next one, Ono.
The Cartographer
Member
Fuck no, let the undead eat our flesh!
I don't think this game has a chance to be greenlit as "monster" version of SFV. The way I see it they have a few options, but most of them I don't like.
Complete genre change - MOBA?
Make it a 3d plane fighter ala Tekken.
Make it a 3d brawler ala Power Stone
Sprite Based? (God I wish, this is never ever happening)
Street Fighter vs Darkstalkers? - THIS is what I want. I NEED a VS game in my life. One without bullshit fucking licensing agreements that ruin everything.
Traditional 2D fighter but with a completely different graphic style than SFV. Like, license the Gulity Gear Xrd engine and make a Darkstalkers game.
Last, most likely option - They will all be added to SFV eventually as DLC.
Complete genre change - MOBA?
Make it a 3d plane fighter ala Tekken.
Make it a 3d brawler ala Power Stone
Sprite Based? (God I wish, this is never ever happening)
Street Fighter vs Darkstalkers? - THIS is what I want. I NEED a VS game in my life. One without bullshit fucking licensing agreements that ruin everything.
Traditional 2D fighter but with a completely different graphic style than SFV. Like, license the Gulity Gear Xrd engine and make a Darkstalkers game.
Last, most likely option - They will all be added to SFV eventually as DLC.
^^ This. One thousand times all of this. I wouldn't trust todays capcpom development teams to do a proper Vampire game.
Now, someone mentioned about cartoony, zany, highly morphing character. Look no further
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76RDBTX0UT8
And in 3D modeling, no less
I really hope so.
Augemitbutter
Member
yup, i would buy. maybe there is a chance in...5 years or so.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Collectively probably the best character designs in a fighting game imo. Would love another entry in the series.
SinCityAssassin
Member
Controversial prediction from the stars: Nintendo funds DS4 just to have its own traditional fighter.
Savior is probably the better game, but I like Night Warriors more because it's slower in comparison (but still faster than SF). VS can feel like MVC2 at time, which is too fast-paced for me.