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Overwatch: Doomfist unveiled (Melee-heavy Offense hero)
- Thread starter Strakt
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I dunno the Rez radius but his Ult radius is pretty large. Around the same size as Mei Ult from what I gather.
BronsonLee
Member
Yeah I stopped when I started losing confideince in their ability to reasonably balance things, the solution was never fun and was always extreme.
Ye, that Falling Sword removes negative effects and gives invincibility for cast to impact duration. He also apparently can be healed during casting and even keeps nano boost until lands.
Probably. A lot of the cast have cooldowns that give invulnerability, no small wonder Doomfist ult has a lot of invulnerability too.
He looks fun and its too early to tell about the balance but.... just from what I saw....
His ult is bullshit.
Its basically hit ult button to teleport away, roam around picking a target, and then come crashing down with less than a second of warning.
There should be a way to kill him while he is ulting, the roaming reticle can't be moved that far/time cut down so you need to come down fast, or people can see where you are aiming.
The fact that he can do this indoors is kinda silly too. You can literally Doomfist ult inside the nepal capture points, all of them.
His ult is bullshit.
Its basically hit ult button to teleport away, roam around picking a target, and then come crashing down with less than a second of warning.
There should be a way to kill him while he is ulting, the roaming reticle can't be moved that far/time cut down so you need to come down fast, or people can see where you are aiming.
The fact that he can do this indoors is kinda silly too. You can literally Doomfist ult inside the nepal capture points, all of them.
Diablohead
Member
I feel like with this character a lot of smaller design flaws start to raise their ugly head in overwatch, stuff like being stuck by tracer and just ulting to not die, being able to contest a point while in ult, small things that all add up.
I agree, it should be like a winston pounce with wind-up so he can be seen at all times like everyone else.
he makes rein's charge feel like walking, his doomfist lunge is stupid quick it's hard to track in battles, also rein has a loud and clear sound before he appears around a corner but doomfist can tip toe behind you and give you a fisting...
I agree, it should be like a winston pounce with wind-up so he can be seen at all times like everyone else.
he makes rein's charge feel like walking, his doomfist lunge is stupid quick it's hard to track in battles, also rein has a loud and clear sound before he appears around a corner but doomfist can tip toe behind you and give you a fisting...
Captain Fun
Neo Member
Looking at streams, he looks like he'd be really difficult to contend with if you got the movement down. He looks like fun though.
I foresee lots of REALLY nasty cooldowns for him in the future.
Talkin' about Ana sleep dart levels.
All things I think they will most likely try to address before he goes live.
Talkin' about Ana sleep dart levels.
All things I think they will most likely try to address before he goes live.
Kayo Police
Member
Thats so weird to me, when I took a hiatus from OW, Rein was always there, I've returned since the anniversary event and he hardly gets any play at all.
It's probably just the current meta being all dive but IIRC theres something glitchy about his ult and charge skill.
Also I don't play Hog at all, (I one trick Zarya) but it kinda irks me Blizz nerfs Hog's 1shot and freely gives Doomy one.
Diablohead
Member
For sure, they need to before he is live and in ranked.
Nuno Pinto
Member
My problem with his ult is that it requires zero skill to pull-off. You don't have to worry about anything.
I am personally okay with this. It just needs to do a lot less damage. Essentially make it a defensive ult.
Diablohead
Member
less damage but with push back would be cool to see, or like his uppercut make everyone fly upwards a fair bit.
Kor of Memory
Member
I agree with most of what everyone else is saying about his Ult.
1 of 3 things needs to happen.
1 - He needs to be targetable like Junkrat during his windup.
2 - There needs to be more than 1 second of reaction time from him selecting his target.
3 - The enemy team needs to be able to see the targeting reticle at all times so they can act accordingly.
Overwatch is about telegraphing, either via sound or animation, and this Ult seems to provide very little of either.
1 of 3 things needs to happen.
1 - He needs to be targetable like Junkrat during his windup.
2 - There needs to be more than 1 second of reaction time from him selecting his target.
3 - The enemy team needs to be able to see the targeting reticle at all times so they can act accordingly.
Overwatch is about telegraphing, either via sound or animation, and this Ult seems to provide very little of either.
Rickenslacker
Banned
My favourite part of his cinematic was him destroying Tracer's device and phasing her out of existence. If only he took out Winston so that she couldn't come back. Doomfist my man you have some unfinished work.
Careful though, he is brand new and most people are using him in unlimited heroes or the Doomfist only playlist.
We need to see some gameplay from the regular modes a week or 2 from now to see how people adapt. Don't get too nerf happy at the beginning.
I am assuming that Doomfist was designed during the time when Rein was a must-pick and therefore his punches through shields plus knockback would have been wonderful to break up those death balls.
Now .. Rein is already in a poor spot on most maps and this just makes it even worse for him.
What happens when Rein charges a lunging Doomfist? Do both fall to the floor stunned like Rein vs. Rein charges?
Now .. Rein is already in a poor spot on most maps and this just makes it even worse for him.
What happens when Rein charges a lunging Doomfist? Do both fall to the floor stunned like Rein vs. Rein charges?
BronsonLee
Member
Yeah the ult needs to be toned down a bit. Otherwise I'm actually okay with all his abilities and the cooldowns for them.
Kayo Police
Member
I'm kinda interested in how Winston was able to take down Doomfist, in the first part on the trailer he just got bodied.
Diablohead
Member
Maybe he never had the gauntlet at that time.
WoW is over 10 years old with the same mentality
good.`
Kor of Memory
Member
He popped his Ult and probably got an environmental kill.
Patch cycle for OW has been everything else, but slow. Also balance swings for most part haven't been drastic like e.g. WotLK had.
Kor of Memory
Member
As someone who came from 20ish months of Destiny, Blizzard patches feel like they come in at
Kayo Police
Member
Oooooh this is good.
They fixed the issues in the latest patch.
And every melee ability will hit/move/stun Rein anyway so the shield is useless. The matchup will be all Doomfist, and any comp that has a Doomfist will essentially instantly disable Rein. Winston and D.VA won't suffer as much because of the movement I guess.
Dreams-Visions
Member
He's gonna need some time added to those cooldowns. Make using the fist feel more risky and more of a commitment.
Yup, and they will constantly need him to add new lines as well as do conventions like with the other VAs. Doubt he has time for all that.
SimpleCRIPPLE
Member
At first i thought this too, but that would make more sense if it wasn't his main DPS. Since his character revolves around that charge, i'd expect them to nerf the shotty instead so that if he whiff's, he has a hard time fighting his way out of it.