LiquidSword
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When they reveal the true reason for their ages, you will all be ashamed of your words and deeds.
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Overwatch's Laughably Convenient Ageism / Sexism
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Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
I love Overwatch but this is a great point. I think Overwatch has some other more general diversity issues in its cast (it's very American and Euro centric, African/Latino heroes don't have lines in their native languages unlike the European heroes, etc.), but that's for another thread.
Reinhardt is an old geezer, Roadhog has an incredibly unattractive body type, Torbjorn is hella short, Junkrat looks like an anorexic crazy person, yet every female in the game (bar Zarya) is an incredibly fit, slim, attractive beauty.
Reinhardt is an old geezer, Roadhog has an incredibly unattractive body type, Torbjorn is hella short, Junkrat looks like an anorexic crazy person, yet every female in the game (bar Zarya) is an incredibly fit, slim, attractive beauty.
If it were just making the characters certain ages, that'd be one thing (it still wouldn't be okay, though) but actually making them older and then coming up with such ridiculous, contrived excuses for why they don't look their age? That just makes this whole thing all the more idiotic.
Leave if discussion upsets you so much.
Boss is a good one. I can definitely imagine an Overwatch character that had her features, only a bit more cartoony.
Stoicism and deep ass voices comes with age?
Interestingly enough, Sayuri is in Senran Kagura, is playable, and is a badass:
So if god damned Senran Kagura can do it, I don't see why Overwatch can't. Sounds like a good idea.
Not an entirely flawless example since her Shinobi Transformation is essentially turning into her younger self where she's just as risque as everyone else, but still a solid point nonetheless.
Already Torn
Banned
I don't want to play as old men either. I'm guessing we'll probably get Samba to balance it out though. If she's supposed to be Pharah's mother that would be super creepy if they're close to the same age.
mikefrails
Banned
You only named two males, one of which is barely human.
If you want to complain about women looking sexy then do so without the contrived arguments.
If you want to complain about women looking sexy then do so without the contrived arguments.
jacksepticeye
Member
Yeah I was kind of shocked to hear the ages for some of the characters. Would love some older badass female characters in the game.
NoblesseOblige
Banned
Yeah nobody wanted to play as Joel in Last of Us. Late 40s males are present in games and other media as main character. But how often are late 40s women?
Absolutely unrealistically idealistic old men, they're buff as fuck. And Torb is basically a dwarf, that pretty much comes with that archetype.
If they tried to do that with women everyone would complain because it's sexist. "No 50ish years old woman looks like that!" "5000 yo dragon" etc. Which is happening with, for example, Mercy, with people saying she doesn't look 37.
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
May I ask where the Muslims are?
We're underrepresented in gaming, almost none in positive terms, where is it in Overwatch?
We're underrepresented in gaming, almost none in positive terms, where is it in Overwatch?
Why do some people say "nobody wants to play an ugly and old character"? This is so ridiculous and so not true.
If the character has a good personality, design and is fun to play, of course people are gonna play them.
Jeez, if nobody liked old/ugly characters, nobody would play as Junkrat, Roadhog or Torbjörn.
If the character has a good personality, design and is fun to play, of course people are gonna play them.
Jeez, if nobody liked old/ugly characters, nobody would play as Junkrat, Roadhog or Torbjörn.
KLoWn
Member
Yes you should, it's not your game. You don't get to tell the artists what they should make. If you don't like it don't buy it.
That said, I'm all for a diverse cast in games. You can have all different kinds of ages, colors and races in the game and I'll be 100% fine with it (why wouldn't I be). What I'm not fine with is when people constantly tells other people what they should put in their games or else they'll get offended and start to cry about it. The artists clearly made the characters they wanted to make, and that's the way it should be. Maybe they'll make more old people down the line so you'll be happy.
Already Torn
Banned
I believe Blizzard was made aware of this problem partially through development, after which they made Zarya. They're trying to fix it I think.
Those characters are just ugly, not old.
The Omega Man
Member
This is true, and even more when they clearly have female characters pushing 40s, they have ugly males in this game while all the women are beautiful, it's like that sitcom rule that men can be fat and flawed but the wives of said men must be young and hot, disgraceful.
And Mei.
To Blizzard's defense, all the women are beautiful in very different ways, so at least thats something.
Hentailover
Member
I didn't... I wanted to play as a little girl stealthing it up cuz she's too weak to confront anybody up close... for realsies. game only offered few moments of that and even then only by the time I already dropped the game from boredom.
THe discussion of the story is silly to me for some reaosn. It's just a bunch of dumb schlock to prop up a battle game and as a waifu generator (as supported by all the ridiculous reasons that the women still appear young like being frozen)
I wouldn't think any of it through too much but it would be nice if they'd be a bit less shameless
I wouldn't think any of it through too much but it would be nice if they'd be a bit less shameless
Hah, Sombra was hanging out with Tracer in a slipstream, then was cryonically frozen, then it turns out she had Benjamin Button disease, and now she looks like a 16 year-old Pixie. But it's a medical condition, so 56-year old woman still represented.
Fine, and that's okay. The point is the game included one representation but not the other. We'll see about Samba, though!
She's the Captain America of Overwatch.
I never really thought about this. On one hand, soldiers are mostly young in general. On the other, if they can have old men, they can probably have old women too.
Mei's actress is over 50 if you are counting the TV stuff.
That said, there aren't many men over 50 either. RDJ, Don Cheadle, and SLJ I think. SLJ is the only one who started over 50 when they were cast.
Yeah.
I'm struggling to think of any post 50 female hero in the MCU.
Mei's actress is over 50 if you are counting the TV stuff.
That said, there aren't many men over 50 either. RDJ, Don Cheadle, and SLJ I think. SLJ is the only one who started over 50 when they were cast.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Does that actively keep you from picking Reinhart and Torbjorn?
Is the religion of any of the Overwatch characters specified? Is Tracer Anglican?
Chairmanchuck
Member
It has a lot of asian characters.
Junkrat is pretty cute to me in a crazy archetype way. And roadhog doesn't even show his face so i already caught the fat shamers in this thread. Let's see them try to dodge this one.
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
Is the religion of any of the Overwatch characters specified? Is Tracer Anglican?
Don't know but I wanted to demonstrate problematic areas where an oppressed people are highly underrepresented.
Thought I'd pile in init.
-Amon-
Member
To make a game that makes noone offended by the lack of a certain minority or race or age or caractheristic would require a roster of 300 ~
Torbjörn is 57.
Soldier 76 and Reinhardt (who is 61) are also old but they wear a mask/helmet.
Zenyatta has some sort of religion.Is the religion of any of the Overwatch characters specified? Is Tracer Anglican?
And I guess Genji does to if he was his student.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
I would assume Pharah is a Muslim given that she's Egyptian. However religions aren't really highlighted at all in Overwatch. The bigger issue here, which I highlighted earlier, is that the cast of heroes is incredibly America and Euro centric. There are only two heroes from Africa or Latin America (Pharah, Lucio), while everyone else is basically from America, Europe, and Australia. Asia has some good representation (Japan, China), but that's not a new thing for video games.
There are actually more non-human heroes than there are African or Latino heroes.
Are you being serious? There's no religious representation in Overwatch other than some costumes like Symmetra.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Where its really lacking is in African and South American representation. One character each is a bit ridiculous, I hope they improve on that
pineapplepizza
Member
"non-ludotypical body types for women"
what does this even mean ?
ludo and non-ludotypical are not defined and show zero search results in google.
someone educate me right quik
what does this even mean ?
ludo and non-ludotypical are not defined and show zero search results in google.
someone educate me right quik
AlphaDragoon
Member
Tracer being youthful thanks to time shenanigans doesn't seem like an asspull to keep her at "waifu" levels considering timeand what it did to her is linked to her entire character. Mercy to me looks like she's in her thirties, she's just really attractive. I can see the argument for Mei though.
I'd be cool with older female characters personally, as long as they aren't lame characters. I'd rather have a cool older female over edgelords like Widowmaker (and Reaper if we count the men) any day.
I'd be cool with older female characters personally, as long as they aren't lame characters. I'd rather have a cool older female over edgelords like Widowmaker (and Reaper if we count the men) any day.
Lmao
Already Torn
Banned
I absolutely don't pick Torbjorn. I sometimes pick Reinhardt though.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Chairmanchuck
Member
There is a Reinhard skin:
I guess we will see them in the future. Right now such a complaint just feels like "my contintent isnt represented yet that well. There is Lucio now and I am quite sure we will get some south american one considering Dorado as a map.
Pharah is 32 and is the only woman who looks her age, everyone else has some stuff going for them to make them look younger or are just young....except Mercy.
At 37 she is one of the oldest Overwatch character in the game and yet she does not look the part. Even weird when she asks Mei how she looks so young and Mei answers Cryo freeze, despite the fact that Mercy looks young eventhough she didn't go through that nor did she go through the time warp thing Tracer did.
At 37 she is one of the oldest Overwatch character in the game and yet she does not look the part. Even weird when she asks Mei how she looks so young and Mei answers Cryo freeze, despite the fact that Mercy looks young eventhough she didn't go through that nor did she go through the time warp thing Tracer did.
Finaika
Member
Pretty sure Pharah is a Muslim.