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Pachter: FUSE will sell 5m copies or higher
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Skyrim?
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Borderlands 2.
Blast Processing
Member
Didn't AC3 hit like 7 million?
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Yeah, I'm just enjoying the irony of that one.
I think the problem here is that fucking EA Partners program, how much advertisement have we seen for the game? How much advertisement did we see for Shadows of the Damned?
Do we know how well SotD sold? it didn't sell, it bombed horrendously.
I hope IG doesn't end up being a mistake from IG's part, they're a great studio, I wish they don't get burned by partnering with those clowns.
Do we know how well SotD sold? it didn't sell, it bombed horrendously.
I hope IG doesn't end up being a mistake from IG's part, they're a great studio, I wish they don't get burned by partnering with those clowns.
So sequels to either established series or a sequel to a well liked original IP. Pachter may be over estimating FUSE interest ever so slightly then.
Cod clone?
How could you not have heard of Insomniac's new game?
A shame it looks kinda generic now though. Third person team based shooter.
Strange in Stereo
Member
I hope so too. Despite Fuse having a look that's generic as fuck the gameplay looks pretty fun.
Shame, the 3rd is the best one.
CosmicQueso
Member
There's a bunch. Just Dance is one. And Skylanders. NBA 2K is another.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
This.
If it comes out in the Summer drought with a ton of advertisement, I could see it getting a million or two worldwide (even if its bad). But remember: EA Partners.
ShockingAlberto
Member
EA being well known for nurturing and aiding their partnered titles.
unaveragekid2
Member
It's about Insomniac getting their collective soul ripped out.
MrDanger88
Member
If Kingdoms of Amular couldn't hit this mark, this generic coop shooter has no chance. Stick to platforming, Insomniac.
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
New IP
Insomniac's last game was Resistance 3, which wasn't favorably received
Generic setting
Those three things will basically make sure that it doesn't reach 5 million. Not that Fuse can't do well, but the new IP thing alone sets it back pretty far as is.
Insomniac's last game was Resistance 3, which wasn't favorably received
Generic setting
Those three things will basically make sure that it doesn't reach 5 million. Not that Fuse can't do well, but the new IP thing alone sets it back pretty far as is.
If you exclude Valve's stuff, you might not be far from the mark.
grosvenor_92
Member
I know Pachter is known for saying stupid shit but unless this game is incredible I don't see it selling that many copies. Also everything they've shown doesn't make it look like it's going to stand out for every other shooter coming out even with the delay
I say it sells 500k worldwide with 1.5 million shipped. Maybe it would hit 1 million sold if it was on PC and had 2 years of budget priced sales. Insomniac's best bet would be shitty launch ports for PS4/Xbox The Third.
Yes, if the boring single-player RPG with a lifeless MMO-style world by a mismanged clusterfuck of executives couldn't do it, this game can't! Look, Fuse is going to bomb hysterically but this game has a much better chance at hitting that mark than Kingdoms of Amular ever had. And they shouldn't stick to platformers as they ran R&C all the way into the ground and sure as shit wont get a new one off the ground. They should take contract work if they want a potential big seller. Make the next Call of Duty!
Yes, if the boring single-player RPG with a lifeless MMO-style world by a mismanged clusterfuck of executives couldn't do it, this game can't! Look, Fuse is going to bomb hysterically but this game has a much better chance at hitting that mark than Kingdoms of Amular ever had. And they shouldn't stick to platformers as they ran R&C all the way into the ground and sure as shit wont get a new one off the ground. They should take contract work if they want a potential big seller. Make the next Call of Duty!
dragonflys545
Member
Insomniac has change so much throughout his generation. I don't know what happened to them, but I wish we can get another full fledged Ratchet and Clank game from them when the PS4 launches. Other than that this new IP does nothing for me. Shame that the resistances are no longer what they use to be. I wish them the best of luck with this new IP.
Sapphire Dreams
Member
a glimpse into the far flung future of probably this time next year
I still cannot believe they went for that cover art, it looks hideous!
OT: yeah Patcher, will you eat your shoe this time around ?
tehrik-e-insaaf
Member
[troll]guys, stop making accurate predictions, you know NotAFactor is just going to copy this thread, reword some of your insights, and pass it off to his clients[/troll]
incase you guys are interested i once asked a PM with a long/short fund if Michael Pachter / Wedbush were relevant - the PM's answers:
"we give a little business to all the trading shops out there to keep things fair and keep everyone hungry to feed us information, but pachter is an anomaly because he spends more time arguing with children on the internet and trying to get quoted by journalists than he does getting to know the management and delivering alpha"
"only those firms that buy generic exposure to games as part of a broader part of a media portfolio will rely on him to get some assurance the stock isn't going to tank completely - but those investors really don't have time to think about games-specific strategies and are just buying some exposure because they want some beta correlation on a potential upcycle - his specific calls on game sales are meaningless and probably wrong - but that's irrelevant when you have a series of clients that really could care less"
"anyone who runs a long/short fund or even a fundamental fund is a moron if they listen to anything pachter has to say, no one takes what he says seriously and any investor that actually knows anything about games basically ignores what he says because in a hits-driven cyclical business you only need to wait long enough before you are proven right about a stock call - and it's always easy to explain why predictions didn't pan out by pointing to "business considerations" rather than admitting you suck at your job"
by the way - this PM was extremely nice - some of the other jokes/comments about pachter are even more brutal - as I said - his nick name was "NotAFactor" among some of the more respected investors I knew that had large concentrations in the games business - although some of them owned large enough concentrations in certain very specific companies and knew that Pachter carried some influence - so they played nice with him rather than just calling him an idiot so he would go and push stock onto clueless pension funds and that in turn would allow them to prop up their own holdings
incase you guys are interested i once asked a PM with a long/short fund if Michael Pachter / Wedbush were relevant - the PM's answers:
"we give a little business to all the trading shops out there to keep things fair and keep everyone hungry to feed us information, but pachter is an anomaly because he spends more time arguing with children on the internet and trying to get quoted by journalists than he does getting to know the management and delivering alpha"
"only those firms that buy generic exposure to games as part of a broader part of a media portfolio will rely on him to get some assurance the stock isn't going to tank completely - but those investors really don't have time to think about games-specific strategies and are just buying some exposure because they want some beta correlation on a potential upcycle - his specific calls on game sales are meaningless and probably wrong - but that's irrelevant when you have a series of clients that really could care less"
"anyone who runs a long/short fund or even a fundamental fund is a moron if they listen to anything pachter has to say, no one takes what he says seriously and any investor that actually knows anything about games basically ignores what he says because in a hits-driven cyclical business you only need to wait long enough before you are proven right about a stock call - and it's always easy to explain why predictions didn't pan out by pointing to "business considerations" rather than admitting you suck at your job"
by the way - this PM was extremely nice - some of the other jokes/comments about pachter are even more brutal - as I said - his nick name was "NotAFactor" among some of the more respected investors I knew that had large concentrations in the games business - although some of them owned large enough concentrations in certain very specific companies and knew that Pachter carried some influence - so they played nice with him rather than just calling him an idiot so he would go and push stock onto clueless pension funds and that in turn would allow them to prop up their own holdings
AdventureRacing
Member
This has bomba written all over it. I would be impressed if it sold 1 million copies WW.
NotAFactor is quite strong. I don't know why, but I'm almost happy to see people running long/short fund are smarter than what I feared, given how they define Pachter XD
Ah, yes, we must celebrate his last successful claim about FUSE!
Whiteshirt
Member
God, I was wondering why people expected FUSE to do well. Patcher being the predictor doesn't really surprise me one bit.
Magic Mushroom
Member
More like 12 million. Far Cry sold in huge numbers as well. Over 6 million.
But 5 million for a new IP is massive. It was a crazy prediction. I think Dishonored was the best-selling new IP of last year and that sold 3-3,5 million I believe.
Pound_lb003
Member
What? But according to that documentary on Gametrailers, he knows more about the game business than 10,000 GAF posts do. How can this be?
We love him, let's not lie. Well I do anyway.
new ip was never a problem... whoever saw single shot of FUSE immediately should have known that there is no way it would get to 5m.
The Bookerman
Member
It's not hideous, it just shows what's the problem with the game: No personality. No heads = No personality.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
They made enough money to buy a turkey though right?
I'm laughing hard though. Still love ya Pachter.
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I'm laughing hard though. Still love ya Pachter.
Katana_Strikes
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