Chobel
Member
Unless it's available in almost every retailer with enough supply, it's still considered difficult to get.
I'm only commenting on the availability of the bundle. Whether that affects the sales of infamous or not, that I don't know.
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PAL Charts - Week 14, 2014
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Unless it's available in almost every retailer with enough supply, it's still considered difficult to get.
I'm only commenting on the availability of the bundle. Whether that affects the sales of infamous or not, that I don't know.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
The Titanfall bundles price is helping it but I doubt infamous bundle not being available changes much of anything, the discount wasn't great to begin with you can now buy PS4 and infamous on it's own for roughly the same price. Neither is selling all that greatly looking about Amazon rankings so clearly this is due to lack of consumer interest.
This whole argument about infamous bundle availability seems completely pointless.
Also Infamous is far more advertised than Titanfall ever was, even now I still see infamous adverts when I don't see Titanfall.
Twister Flipper
Member
Italy:
1) inFamous: Second Son (PS4)
2) Yoshi's New Island (3DS)
3) FIFA 14 (PS3)
4) GTA V (PS3)
5) FIFA 14 (PS4)
6) Professor Layton vs. Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney (3DS)
7) Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster (PS3)
8) Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes (PS4)
9) Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes (PS3)
10) Dark Souls 2 (PS3)
http://www.aesvi.it/cms/charts.php?dir_pk=206
1) inFamous: Second Son (PS4)
2) Yoshi's New Island (3DS)
3) FIFA 14 (PS3)
4) GTA V (PS3)
5) FIFA 14 (PS4)
6) Professor Layton vs. Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney (3DS)
7) Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster (PS3)
8) Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes (PS4)
9) Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes (PS3)
10) Dark Souls 2 (PS3)
http://www.aesvi.it/cms/charts.php?dir_pk=206
I'm not even sure what the problem is. Do you want some sort of mandate on the minimum amount of linear content in a video game?
*offensive_nickname*
Banned
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Good call.
although the difference might be smaller than that.
Last week was 1.6k in favour of ISS. With the drops this week they might be super close. Can't be arsed to do the maths
Here in Switzerland, PS4s have been consistently selling out the day they arrive in stores. Haven't ever seen one in the wild in another store yet. As for as the XB1, we ordered 30 units in January and still have 8-9 left now.
On ricardo.ch (swiss eBay equivalent), XB1s tend to sell for cheaper than PS4s. The demand situation is pretty clear here.
So much for being neutral
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Have you ever went to a mainstream cinema franchise and watched a 30 min movie? No because there's certain expectations both the film producers and average consumers have on what the normal length of a movie. There's category of short films but you really don't see them in those chains.
The same goes for retail game releases when a consumers buys a game with little research (that does happen), they do not expect to buy a 1 hour game especially from any reasonably well known company.
*offensive_nickname*
Banned
Good call.
although the difference might be smaller than that.
Last week was 1.6k in favour of ISS. With the drops this week they might be super close. Can't be arsed to do the maths
not sure about exactly numbers ofc.
i just wanted to be right. so < 5000 looked like a good number
it might be smaller, but maybe not that small
individual xbox one titanfall is 2 while ifss is just 1 place behind.
for all formats we got 3 vs 6
edit: titanfall third week drop 42 %
infamous 55%
all weeks for comparison
titanfall: 73% --> 42 --> 36
infamous: 67% --> 55
hah, nice one!
Well, to be fair, the XB1 hasn't "officially" launched yet, so when MS drums up the publicity in September or whenever it's gonna be it might get a bit better. Not sure how much though.
The hardware itself is more readily available at GameStop/MediaMarkt/other huge retailers than the PS4 already now and every store that sells games also carries XB1 software, so it's not a matter of visibility. We'll see. As for myself, I'm certainly willing to buy one in the future if I can find it at a decent price, just for ID@Xbox.
ShogunDarius
Member
Dynasty Warriors did well, not as much as I was hoping but not far off
7th in PS4 charts, 7th in Vita and 25th on PS3
7th in PS4 charts, 7th in Vita and 25th on PS3
But you are a weird fringe case. I played Ground Zeroes for 3 or 4 hours and was done with it. Second Son was way better value.
Bruno MB
Member
Spain:
March 2014 - Individual Formats (Units)
01 (NE) PS4 INFAMOUS: SECOND SON (SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT)
02 (NE) PC DIABLO III: REAPER OF SOULS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
03 (NE) PS4 METAL GEAR SOLID V: GROUND ZEROES (KONAMI)
04 (NE) PS3 FINAL FANTASY X/X-2 HD REMASTER (SQUARE ENIX EUROPE)
05 (NE) XBO TITANFALL (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
06 (02) PS3 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
07 (04) PS3 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE-TWO INTERACTIVE)
08 (__) PC DIABLO III (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
09 (NE) PS3 METAL GEAR SOLID V: GROUND ZEROES (KONAMI)
10 (03) PS3 CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
Astro Monster
Banned
Odd seeing Titanfall so high. It isn't even in the top 10 on Amazon or an any of my local stores.
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
Amazon charts have little bearing on reality.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Good lord did you just buy 10 copies, literally around half an hour ago it wasn't.
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
It's not the shakers list, it's the overall 2014 list. TF has been in the #1 spot for, from what I recall, more than a month now.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Oh that would make sense it had the highest opening of the year, and has hung around top 3 in Pal charts.
Still infamous seems kinda low then did it sell barely any on amazon.
Meaningless metric when focusing nationwide.
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
It's just a small indicator of sales.
I posted it just to stop yet another PAL thread from being dominated with false information, because it's starting to be a thing in the past few weeks.
So do you think that if 90% of ps4s sold and available had ISS bundled for free that it would still be behind titanfall in sales. We only have to look at the holidays and the KZ and knack bundleS to see that if a game comes with a majority of consoles it will continue to chart and chart high. And lol at ISS being advertised more than Titanfall. Titanfall is built into Xb1 marketing since launch and the only game they have talked about since reveal.
When you look at it sideways and then cover it in peanut butter, amazon has little bearing on reality!
Sounds delicious yet informative!
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
Can we cover it with something else? I don't like peanut butter!
Principate
Saint Titanfall
If Sony packed in I:SS into a £349 priced PS4 of curse it would help but that's not the price of the infamous. Hence why I was asking why said bundle would even matter when the price difference is small.
Jesus, I've just noticed that. What happened there?
Astro Monster
Banned
That's the year combined archive. I'm talking about this past few weeks.
Current bestsellers. Try and find XBO Titanfall
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And yes, Amazon is usually pretty good at showing the nation demographic.
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
That's the year combined archive. I'm talking about this past few weeks.
Current bestsellers. Try and find Titanfall
Read my previous posts. That's the shakers list, which is completely pointless.
At least look at the monthly charts to have some decent indicator. TF is the #1 game for 2014, which is better than any silly amazon shakers list, which changes every hour or so.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Actually thinking about the may still be consistent, considering Infamous released in the end of march whereas those games have been selling steadily for the year. If the rough 2-1 ratio of Titanfall to infamous remains true it could explain it. Did anyone actually further confirm that?
The remaining amount of people still interested in Diablo bought it day one, everyone else didn't care... probably....
Principate
Saint Titanfall
edit:double post
unapersson
Member
You can get April's list so far: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/2014-04/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar
Maybe I'm not understanding your point then. What I'm saying is if say 10k people a week want an Xbox no matter what and say 70% of x1s available are tf bundles then automatically tf will have 7k sales for the week. Especially true since there is no extra cost so why not get the bundle with a brand new game. On the other hand if 12k people want a ps4 every week but only 40% of those consoles come with ISS and at an additional cost that only translates into 4800 bundled unit sales for ISS. All the rest are free to buy a game of their choosing to include preowned games downloaded games or none at all.
Guess I don't understand how you don't see why bundling causes a difference in sales. Or do you think Knack was really popular? Not saying titanfall isn't popular just that bundles guarantee a certain level of sales unless your console is vita level dead.
SwiftDeath
Member
Infamous drop doesn't seem that unusual. Hard to compete with TF XB1 if the SKU everyone goes for is the TF bundle
This counts bundled games I assume? I do realize ISS had bundled to but not to the same extent
This counts bundled games I assume? I do realize ISS had bundled to but not to the same extent
I'm not sure that you're qualified to speak on behalf of so many people.
Aside from that, what are the expectations for the 'normal' length of a game? Should Skyrim cost the same as The Last of Us? Should GTA5 sell for more than LEGO City Undercover? Do I get a discount on Battlefield 4 because I have no interest in MP, therefore I'm buying a 6 hour campaign? If I replay all the missions in GZ until I hit the 7 hour mark, should it really be half the price of my BF4 purchase?
These 'expectations' make no sense to me.
*offensive_nickname*
Banned
no more good comparison possible after next week without knowing the 360 / one split
only interesting will be the fourth week percentage drop for infamous
titanfall will be #1 all formates (100% given)
titanfall xbox one individual formates will probably (i highly doubt doing not) stay ahead of infamous, but we cant expect to explorate the gap by numbers
depends on their expecations
i dont think infamous: second son will sell more than 2.5 mio lifetime
and that would be a freaking big 25% attach rate for 10 mio playstation 4 by the end of this year
ifss is doing okay, for what it is.
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
1/9 isn't bad probably better than that now as well.
think it sold 25k last week? how many consoles have been sold during that time though? And iirc, didn't Titanfall have 1:3 or 1:4 ratio? Thought most early adoptors would get on the infamous wagon, but apparently not.
Not going doom and gloom or anything, but just get the feeling it sold worse than was expected.
*offensive_nickname*
Banned
me, too
but just because of one reason
the playstaion 4 success was overwhelming for sony
so they thought this could help the first party games / software in general for good sells.
but the ps4 get sold becaus of its own. because of the piece of hardware. the games are just the reason #3 or something like that. this will probably change if u get uncharted 4 or gt7, but i never heard anyone saying "omg i need to get a ps4, so i can play killzone or knack" and just a very few people say that for infamous
theprodigy
Member
Graphics Horse
Member
Only for xbone. Titanfall 360 is the new hotness and Mario Killer.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Looking at the Spanish and Italian charts, and knowing how bad it is for XBO in France, Germany and Northern Europe, it looks like Titanfall has done hardly anything to impact on PS4's dominance in those regions.
It looks, for all intents and purposes, that MS has lost Europe. In the UK, it seems the PS4 stock situation has been addressed and we see PS4 titles higher in the charts again, with XBO with fewer and lower in the charts sans TF.
The question is, what is the trajectory of sales for the XBO at the current rate? Can a console survive mainly just off sales in the US? Surely that hasn't happened with any console before. The US market is big, but not that big.
It looks, for all intents and purposes, that MS has lost Europe. In the UK, it seems the PS4 stock situation has been addressed and we see PS4 titles higher in the charts again, with XBO with fewer and lower in the charts sans TF.
The question is, what is the trajectory of sales for the XBO at the current rate? Can a console survive mainly just off sales in the US? Surely that hasn't happened with any console before. The US market is big, but not that big.
figadapaura
Member
Well, TF was the best selling in March. So maybe the charts on Amazon actually do have some merit.