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PAL Charts - Week 26, 2015
- Thread starter Bruno MB
- Start date
TheMoon
Member
Arkham Origins didn't come out on Vita so it can't be Vita sales.
Blackgate is a different game and should not be listed alongside Origins.
Pretty significant.
Witcher 3 was Xbox promoted but still had 63% in favor of PS4.
Huh? Origins came out on Wii U at the same time as other platforms.
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The sales that low in the charts probably differ in the 100s.
Kresnik258
Member
It's not that Bruno is choosing to list the game that way and ignoring the other versions, it's just how Guardian chose to do their listings when they released the breakdown in 2013:
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/oct/28/uk-top-20-video-games-chart
Xbox 360 (54)
PS3 (44)
VITA (2)
If you have a problem with their choosing to lump Blackgate in with Origins, then I suggest you take it up with them, but since they don't provide platform breakdowns anymore I doubt they'll care
Edit: Nvm, Mpl says they released later, so I guess that's why no %!
LiquidSolid
Member
You're right, I guess I mixed it up with City.
Thats the norm really. pcars too for example
Project cars
PS4 - 63%
XBO - 31%
/Insert joke about XB1 users playing Ryse so why would they need Batman
Yeah doubt it has much to do with it.
geordiemp
Member
Maybe the fact that it WAS at release technically the best version with 1080p and solid Frame rate has allot to do with it when consumers are deciding which version to buy (PC patch may have changed that ?)
Discerning consumers ?
Nah, if you had a PC, Xb1 and Ps4 after reading technical reviews, Ps4 ran the best and would be favoured unless you did not have the choice.
Don't think marketing deals has that much say.....
I don't get it, I know the Xbox 360 was the multiplat console of choice, but PS3 sales weren't too far behind as far as the splits go, but the sales in the new gen represents a 2:1 sales ratio that hardware sales doesn't suggest.
I don't know, it seems to work for Sony but does fuck all for MS, and The Witcher was a series that only appeared on Xbox in the past, to twist that knife a little further.
Maybe MS needs to start making marketing deals with original 3rd party IP's thinking on it, Sony did do that last gen with Batman Arkham Asylum, Assassin's Creed and a few others.
Black Republican
Member
WB must be smiling ear to ear. Are rocksteady no longer contracted to do anymore Batman games?
So? The game was released Week 22!
Or just people with no friends.
It's cheaper and at the bottom of the chart you are talking mostly about low numbers.
geordiemp
Member
Let me answer that for you. Last gen we had 2x Ps4 and then 2x 360 (4 consoles, 2 TV's).
We bought Batman on 360 twice. Why ? Game ran and looked better. Its that simple.
geordiemp
Member
A guy posting on neogaf using the claim that gamers have no friends.
#neogafshitposts.
Let me tell you a secret....If Xb1 was a stronger console, in UK it would be 2:1 in favour of Xbox.
I was in a COD clan of 30 on 360 - we all moved to PS4....All of us.
Why ? COD ghosts ran at 720p on Xb1 on release, that was not a console we wanted for the next 4 years even if it was a watercooler thing
That's implying the average consumer reads a technical review about a game they're going to buy. The farthest most average people go for research is most likely looking @ Metacritic for a score and maybe a few reviews from popular sites like IGN. There's a reason why marketing accounts for about 1/2 the budget in both games and movies, because it has a clear impact on sales.
Come on now, dude was obviously joking.
No offense, but I preferred the joke someone made earlier in last week's chart thread about XB1 users waiting for Forza 6 so why would they want to drive the Batmobile?
Thanks to EA Access, digital sales on Xbox One are through the roof!
Oh, geordie, why do you hurt me so?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=170054792#post170054792
How could you forget so quickly? :C
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
The Witcher 3 (minus pc version)
PS4: 66%
XBO: 34%
Project Cars (minus pc version)
PS4: 67%
XBO: 33%
Batman: AK (minus.... lol version)
PS4: 67%
XBO: 33%
Those ratio's are actually really simalar. My take is that XBO only owners buy the XBO version and PS4 only owners buy the PS4 version. That will bring the ratio of sales 1:1.3 in favour of the PS4. Then we have to factor in that these types of games did relatively good on PS platforms in the past. The rest of that gap can be atributed to PS4/ XBO owners who are opting for the PS4 version for primary performance (better gfx) reasons.
PS4: 66%
XBO: 34%
Project Cars (minus pc version)
PS4: 67%
XBO: 33%
Batman: AK (minus.... lol version)
PS4: 67%
XBO: 33%
Those ratio's are actually really simalar. My take is that XBO only owners buy the XBO version and PS4 only owners buy the PS4 version. That will bring the ratio of sales 1:1.3 in favour of the PS4. Then we have to factor in that these types of games did relatively good on PS platforms in the past. The rest of that gap can be atributed to PS4/ XBO owners who are opting for the PS4 version for primary performance (better gfx) reasons.
geordiemp
Member
No. Even my 12 year old son and all of his online gaming friends mock the Xb1 power and ability to run games 'decently'. Its not a fair mock, they have no idea what they are talking about....BUT IT EXISTS....They don't know why and don't read DF. How is that ?
My opinion is that the first batch of game son XB1 were very poor technically, the worst being Call of Duty Ghosts which is huge to joe public. It ran at 720 vs 1080 ps4.
Social media and opinions stick, and it will take allot for MS to counter that in markets other than the US.
A console gets it IMAGE in its first months of release and it tends to stick, I can only think of Ps3 that managed to partly reverse its fortunes (by hefty losses)
TheMoon
Member
Yea, WB pushed the Nintendo versions of both back a week or two. Looking at Lego Jurassic World, I see they love doing this.
Apparently every game they've released this year has topped the charts. And yeah, it's the last Batman game from them but since they're owned by WB they'll probably be working on another WB property and not a new IP.
geordiemp
Member
LOL, sorry for the fun....I forgot, you should have said the 55 inch 720p TV...
Missed the sarcasm, got a sore head this morning and a bit slooooow
I get that, but the PS3 sales weren't always being outsold 2:1, looking at previous entries in the series, the split was generally 55:45.
And it's not even a one off, several titles across multiple genre's has the same mad split, with Japaneese games having roflcopter splits.
WB owns them, so in the end they will do what they are told. We will see what it will be, but I would expect something licensed again.
slavesnyder
Member
By a nose
dead monkey uk
Member
Yeah the rest of Europe splits would be a lot worse for MS. Only US is stronger for MS than the UK market.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
My nose?
It seems Sony are matching Microsoft on the 1TB model so that should mean the 500GB is going to get cut soon.
AnthonypUK
Member
But the last batman did better on the 360.
I think it more says about the type of gamer Microsoft has "got" as their audience, they buy an Xbox to play your halo, forzas, fables, gears franchises and AAA FPS games, games outside that core focus are niche, evidenced by Sunset Overdrives bomba, that had Plenty marketing here in the UK, a bundle, good review scores, and the audience pretty much ignored it.
dead monkey uk
Member
You can get a PS4 for under £300 now, do not think it needs a price cut this year. I think what will happen is they just introduce the 1TB model and more limited editions to the market to drive sales.
Bruno MB
Member
These numbers are based on the information provided by the Chart-Track PR note. They reported that Batman: Arkham City was the 4th biggest launch of the year so far behind FIFA 12, Gears of War 3 & L.A Noire. Hence that <246,000 since we knew that L.A Noire sold 246,000 units.
Famitsu would later publish actual Batman: Arkham City sales data for its debut month.
October 2011 Individual Format Top Ten
01. [360] FIFA 12 (Electronic Arts) - 249,000
02. [PS3] FIFA 12 (Electronic Arts) - 224,000
03. [360] Battlefield 3 (Electronic Arts) - 214,000
04. [360] Forza Motorsport 4 (Microsoft) - 183,000
05. [360] Batman: Arkham City (Warner Bros. Interactive) - 166,000
06. [PS3] Battlefield 3 (Electronic Arts) - 144,000
07. [PS3] Batman: Arkham City (Warner Bros. Interactive) - 128,000
08. [WII] Just Dance 3 (Ubisoft) - 119,000
09. [360] Rage (Bethesda) - 79,000
10. [360] Gears of War 3 (Microsoft) - 61,000
[All Formats] Batman: Arkham City - 294,000 (2 weeks of tracking)
First Week: 198,650
Second Week: 95,350 (-52%)
Nah I don't think that's the over riding element.
Most folks buying Arkham Knight are regular Joe's not even thinking of the PC release.
They just pre order the game and play it.
Simple fact that the higher install base and PS4 brand awareness winning big time here.
I don't think it's an exact science. ESO continues to do better on the Xbox and I don't even know if that game had any marketing attached to it, where as witcher skews towards ps4 regardless of marketing
No marketing but it was first unveiled at Sony's E3 2013.
Newtype-001
Member
Im pretty sure there was xbox co marketing atleast online I remember seeing youtube ad with the xbox type swoosh intro and outro.