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PAL Charts - Week 47, 2013

Bruno MB

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Germany:
Week 47, 2013 - Individual Formats (Units)

01 (NE) PS4 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS
02 (NE) PC ASSASSIN'S CREED IV - BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
03 (NE) PS4 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV - BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
04 (NE) 3DS THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: A LINK BETWEEN WORLDS (NINTENDO)
05 (NE) XBO FORZA MOTORSPORT 5 (MICROSOFT)
06 (NE) XBO BATTLEFIELD 4 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
07 (01) PS3 CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
08 (NE) XBO RYSE - SON OF ROME (MICROSOFT)
09 (NE) XBO CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
10 (03) PS3 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE - TWO INTERACTIVE)
11 (04) PS3 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV - BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
12 (NE) XBO ASSASSIN'S CREED IV - BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
13 (08) PS3 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
14 (NE) PS3 NEED FOR SPEED: RIVALS (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
15 (06) PS3 BATTLEFIELD 4 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
16 (07) PC BATTLEFIELD 4 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
17 (10) 3DS PROFESSOR LAYTON AND THE AZRAN LEGACY (NINTENDO)
18 (05) 360 CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
19 (13) 3DS POKÉMON Y (NINTENDO)
20 (12) 3DS POKÉMON X (NINTENDO)
21 (NE) PS3 RATCHET AND CLANK: NEXUS (SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT)
22 (NE) XBO FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
23 (15) 3DS ANIMAL CROSSING: NEW LEAF (NINTENDO)
24 (19) WII JUST DANCE 2014 (UBISOFT)
25 (09) PC CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
26 (11) 360 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV - BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
27 (NE) PC NEED FOR SPEED: RIVALS (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
28 (20) WII SKYLANDERS: SWAP FORCE - STARTER PACK (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
29 (14) 360 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE - TWO INTERACTIVE)
30 (NE) PS4 CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
31 (31) 3DS NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. 2 (NINTENDO)
32 (28) 3DS LUIGI'S MANSION 2 (NINTENDO)
33 (35) 3DS MARIO KART 7 (NINTENDO)
34 (25) 360 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
35 (NE) XBO NEED FOR SPEED: RIVALS (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
36 (NE) WIU ASSASSIN'S CREED IV - BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
37 (23) 360 MINECRAFT: XBOX 360 EDITION (AK TRONIC)
38 (27) PC FARMING SIMULATOR 2013 (ASTRAGON)
39 (45) PC CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS II (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
40 (21) WIU WII PARTY U (NINTENDO)
41 (24) PS3 DIABLO III (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
42 (16) 360 BATTLEFIELD 4 ELECTRONIC ARTS)
43 (41) 3DS LEGO CITY UNDERCOVER: THE CHASE BEGINS (NINTENDO)
44 (18) PS3 LEGO MARVEL SUPER HEROES (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
45 (40) WII FIFA 14 - LEGACY EDITION (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
46 (02) PC X REBIRTH (KOCH MEDIA)
47 (39) PS3 F1 2013 (NAMCO BANDAI GAMES)
48 (37) PC THE ELDER SCROLLS V: SKYRIM (BETHESDA SOFTWORKS)
49 (22) PC FIFA MANAGER 14 - LEGACY EDITION (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
50 (NE) 360 NEED FOR SPEED: RIVALS (ELECTRONIC ARTS)

Top 50

PS3 - 10
3DS - 9
PC - 9
XBO - 7
360 - 7
PS4 - 3
WII - 3
WIU - 2
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
It's interesting that FIFA 14 for Xbone is so low, almost the lowest seller for Xbone except for the NFS Rivals bomba.
 
You can argue all you like about how Killzone is a bad game (I don't agree FWIW) but I don't think you can say GG are technically incompetent. KZ3 looked so good my eyes could hardly take it in. And they were the first FPS to really nail Move controls (alas not carried forward to KZ:SF). Seriously, they were perfect.

DF have a long and gushing article about their tech currently on EG. Nothing in it suggests to me they are hacks. Crytek probably is a good comparison - like them they just find it hard to marry good tech and good gameplay.
 

Kosma

Banned
Xbone versions being outsold by PS4 versions despite not being out yet in Germany, as expected, continental Europe says No thank you again.
 
Wow, Germany has officially given the Xbox One the finger. Two games for a system that's not even out yet managed to chart higher than any game on Microsoft's console... and it was their launch week!
 

Raist

Banned
Wow, Germany has officially given the Xbox One the finger. Two games for a system that's not even out yet managed to chart higher than any game on Microsoft's console... and it was their launch week!

That's really not unexpected because of historical reasons, and while it's just a tiny glimpse of the market, Amazon.de had the PS4 way higher than the XB1 (much more so that in FR or UK).

Good luck with that 40% marketshare, MS.
 

dejan

Member
Wow, Germany has officially given the Xbox One the finger. Two games for a system that's not even out yet managed to chart higher than any game on Microsoft's console... and it was their launch week!
"We want to improve our market share to 40 percent until the end of the year." -some lunatic
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Great debut for Zelda in Germany as well. Lots of 3DS games in chart, despite One launching. However, seeing PS4 titles outpacing One titles...despite the console releasing just this week is a great sign for Sony, at least at launch.
 

Raist

Banned
XBone Games were sold before console launch either.

You mean "weren't" right?

Previous week:

01 (01) PS3 CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
02 (NE) PC X REBIRTH (KOCH MEDIA)
03 (07) PS3 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE - TWO INTERACTIVE)
04 (04) PS3 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV - BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
05 (02) 360 CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
06 (05) PS3 BATTLEFIELD 4 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
07 (06) PC BATTLEFIELD 4 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
08 (08) PS3 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
09 (03) PC CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
10 (10) 3DS PROFESSOR LAYTON AND THE AZRAN LEGACY (NINTENDO)
11 (09) 360 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV - BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
12 (13) 3DS POKÉMON X (NINTENDO)
13 (12) 3DS POKÉMON Y (NINTENDO)
14 (14) 360 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE - TWO INTERACTIVE)
15 (17) 3DS ANIMAL CROSSING: NEW LEAF (NINTENDO)
16 (11) 360 BATTLEFIELD 4 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
17 (NE) PC XCOM: ENEMY WITHIN (TAKE - TWO INTERACTIVE)
18 (NE) PS3 LEGO MARVEL SUPER HEROES (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
19 (25) WII JUST DANCE 2014 (UBISOFT)
20 (20) WII SKYLANDERS: SWAP FORCE - STARTER PACK (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
21 (16) WIU WII PARTY U (NINTENDO)
22 (15) PC FIFA MANAGER 14 - LEGACY EDITION (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
23 (26) 360 MINECRAFT: XBOX 360 EDITION (AK TRONIC)
24 (41) PS3 DIABLO III (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
25 (19) 360 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
26 (NE) 360 LEGO MARVEL SUPER HEROES (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
27 (24) PC FARMING SIMULATOR 2013 (ASTRAGON)
28 (27) 3DS LUIGI'S MANSION 2 (NINTENDO)
29 (23) PC THE SIMS 3: INTO THE FUTURE (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
30 (22) PS3 BEYOND: TWO SOULS (SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT)
31 (29) 3DS NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. 2 (NINTENDO)
32 (59) PC WORLD OF WARCRAFT: MISTS OF PANDARIA (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
33 (18) PS3 BATMAN: ARKHAM ORIGINS (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
34 (NE) PC LEGO MARVEL SUPER HEROES (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
35 (32) 3DS MARIO KART 7 (NINTENDO)
36 (86) PS3 TOMB RAIDER (SQUARE ENIX)
37 (31) PC THE ELDER SCROLLS V: SKYRIM (BETHESDA SOFTWORKS)
38 (21) PS3 WWE 2K14 (TAKE - TWO INTERACTIVE)
39 (28) PS3 F1 2013 (NAMCO BANDAI GAMES)
40 (38) WII FIFA 14 - LEGACY EDITION (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
41 (40) 3DS LEGO CITY UNDERCOVER: THE CHASE BEGINS (NINTENDO)
42 (39) PC FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
43 (37) PS3 SKYLANDERS: SWAP FORCE - STARTER PACK (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
44 (NE) WIU LEGO MARVEL SUPER HEROES (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
45 (60) PC CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS II (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
46 (51) WII MARIO KART WII (NINTENDO)
47 (33) PC FARMING SIMULATOR 2013: OFFICIAL EXPANSION (ASTRAGON)
48 (35) PS3 NBA 2K14 (TAKE - TWO INTERACTIVE)
49 (__) 360 DIABLO III (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
50 (47) PS3 THE LAST OF US (SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT)
 
Er, if the bundled FIFA isn't counted on the German charts I'd say there's a pretty good chance it was #1 for the week.

Related question, what is the current marketshare of the Xbox 360 in Germany relative to the PS3/Wii?
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
UK will still be Xboxland this gen again confirmed I guess, brand loyalty goes a long way.

Come back next week. And the weeks after, when both launch hype for PS4 and One will start losing its relevance in sales :p
 
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Unconfirmed Member
Sweden and Norway knows whats up

Zelda: A Link Between Worlds, 1st and 2nd place respectively
 
Well with the Wii U doing how it's doing, and based on the performance of the 360 and this one week of incomplete sales data, I don't see how it's farfetched that the One grabs 35% or more marketshare in Germany (for consoles).

60% PS4
5% Wii U
35% Xbone

would still be an increase for MS if the market doesn't shrink dramatically. Note that this would still be a worse performance relative to Sony.
 

QaaQer

Member
The only things GG are good at are graphics and shooting mechanics. I am really afraid whatever they will do next may turn out even more critically and commercially a flop

Didn't they hire the lead open world story guy from New Vegas? If he is given a free hand, next game could be great.
 
Well with the Wii U doing how it's doing, and based on the performance of the 360 and this one week of incomplete sales data, I don't see how it's farfetched that the One grabs 35% or more marketshare in Germany (for consoles).

60% PS4
5% Wii U
35% Xbone

would still be an increase for MS if the market doesn't shrink dramatically. Note that this would still be a worse performance relative to Sony.
But it could certainly shrink dramatically. 4.6M people bought Wiis, out of that total 7th gen 10.9M.

If for the sake of discussion ~4M of those people were expanded market that are less likely to buy any of these home consoles and thus we have around 7M systems sold, your expectations of marketshare amount to:

350K Wii Us
4.2M PS4s
2.45M XB1s

Setting aside that, even with how poorly the Wii U is selling, that still seems a low eventual LTD (as it currently stands at 160K), in such a scenario the relative position of the PS4 and XB1 remain roughly the same as during 7th generation PS3 and 360 in absolute unit terms. This despite Microsoft no longer operating at a price or time on market advantage.

The PS3 and 360 basically split the "HD core games console" market at a ratio of 1.6:1 this gen with those aforementioned advantages. I don't see why that would only shift to 1.7:1 (60%, 35%) without those advantages.
 
Well with the Wii U doing how it's doing, and based on the performance of the 360 and this one week of incomplete sales data, I don't see how it's farfetched that the One grabs 35% or more marketshare in Germany (for consoles).

60% PS4
5% Wii U
35% Xbone

would still be an increase for MS if the market doesn't shrink dramatically. Note that this would still be a worse performance relative to Sony.

No way. They have 38% market share vs PS3 alone this gen with a 17 month headstart and a lower price point for the life of the console. There is absolutely no way MS get anywhere near 35% in any European country other than the UK. Dropping from 38% to 35% would require MS to hold onto 2.2m out of the current 2.4m 360 owners in a similarly sized market. The real figure is going to be much, much higher. The expanded audience from the Wii have all moved onto iPad and most aren't coming back.

Microsoft don't have the same advantages they had last time, in fact they have a price disadvantage. Sony should be looking at at least 80% market share vs Bone in Europe and >70% market share for the total next gen including Wii U.
 

Bruno MB

Member
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Denmark:
Week 47, 2013 - Individual Formats (Units)

01 (01) PS3 CALL OF DUTY GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
02 (02) PS3 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE 2)
03 (04) PS3 FIFA 14 ELECTRONIC ARTS)
04 (03) PS3 LEGO MARVEL SUPER HEROES (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
05 (05) WII SKYLANDERS SWAP FORCE STARTER PACK (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
06 (10) WII JUST DANCE 2014 (UBISOFT)
07 (NE) PC ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
08 (09) PS3 SKYLANDERS SWAP FORCE STARTER PACK (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
09 (07) PS3 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
10 (06) PS3 BATTLEFIELD 4 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
11 (08) PC FOOTBALL MANAGER 2014 (SEGA)
12 (17) PS3 DISNEY INFINITY STARTER PACK (DISNEY INTERACTIVE STUDIOS)
13 (15) PSN PLAYSTATION NETWORK CARD 200 KR (SCEE)
14 (11) PC BATTLEFIELD 4 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
15 (19) PS3 DISNEY INFINITY STARTER PACK (DISNEY INTERACTIVE STUDIOS)
16 (12) 360 CALL OF DUTY GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
17 (13) PC CALL OF DUTY GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
18 (14) 360 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE 2)
19 (__) 360 SKYLANDERS SWAP FORCE STARTER PACK (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
20 (__) WII JUST DANCE 4 (UBISOFT)


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Sweden
Week 47, 2013 - Individual Formats (Units)

01 (NE) 3DS LEGEND OF ZELDA A LINK BETWEEN WORLDS (NINTENDO)
02 (NE) PC ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
03 (03) PS3 LEGO MARVEL SUPER HEROES (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
04 (01) PS3 CALL OF DUTY GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
05 (02) 360 CALL OF DUTY GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
06 (05) PS3 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE 2)
07 (04) 360 LEGO MARVEL SUPER HEROES (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
08 (13) PS3 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
09 (06) PC WORLD OF WARCRAFT 60 DAYS GAME CARD (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
10 (07) WII SKYLANDERS SWAP FORCE STARTER PACK (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
11 (14) 360 MINECRAFT (MICROSOFT)
12 (10) 360 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE 2)
13 (12) PC BATTLEFIELD 4 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
14 (17) 360 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
15 (09) 360 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
16 (11) PS3 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
17 (20) WII JUST DANCE 2014 (UBISOFT)
18 (08) PC CALL OF DUTY GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
19 (16) PSN PLAYSTATION NETWORK VOUCHER 200 SEK (SCEE)
20 (NE) PC ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG SKULL EDITION (UBISOFT)


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Norway:
Week 47, 2013 - Individual Formats (Units)

01 (01) PS3 CALL OF DUTY GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
02 (NE) 3DS LEGEND OF ZELDA: A LINK BETWEEN WORLDS (NINTENDO)
03 (02) PS3 LEGO MARVEL SUPER HEROES (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
04 (NE) PS3 NEED FOR SPEED: RIVALS LIMITED EDITION (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
05 (06) PS3 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
06 (NE) PC ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
07 (04) PS3 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE 2)
08 (03) PS3 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
09 (09) PSN PLAYSTATION NETWORK VOUCHER 200 NOK (SCEE)
10 (08) PS3 SKYLANDERS SWAP FORCE STARTER PACK (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
11 (05) 360 CALL OF DUTY GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
12 (07) WII SKYLANDERS SWAP FORCE STARTER PACK (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
13 (__) PS3 DISNEY INFINITY STARTER PACK (DISNEY INTERACTIVE STUDIOS)
14 (__) PSN PSN LIVECARD 200KR (SCEE)
15 (11) 360 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
16 (14) 360 LEGO MARVEL SUPER HEROES (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
17 (13) PS3 RATCHET & CLANK NEXUS (SCEE)
18 (__) PSN PSN 400NOK (SCEE)
19 (__) 360 MINECRAFT (MICROSOFT)
20 (12) PC FOOTBALL MANAGER 2014 (SEGA)


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Finland:
Week 47, 2013 - Individual Formats (Units)

01 (02) PS3 SINGSTAR SUOMIHELMET (SCEE)
02 (01) PS3 CALL OF DUTY GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
03 (04) PSN PLAYSTATION NETWORK CARD 20 EUR (SCEE)
04 (03) PS3 LEGO MARVEL SUPER HEROES (WARNER BROS. GAMES)
05 (06) PS3 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE 2)
06 (07) PS3 NHL 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
07 (14) PS3 RATCHET & CLANK NEXUS (SCEE)
08 (NE) 3DS LEGEND OF ZELDA: A LINK BETWEEN WORLDS (NINTENDO)
09 (08) 360 CALL OF DUTY GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
10 (NE) PC ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
11 (10) PS3 BATTLEFIELD 4 PRE-ORDER EDITION (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
12 (05) PS3 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
13 (11) PS3 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
14 (NE) PS3 SINGSTAR SUOMIHELMET + MIKIT (SCEE)
15 (15) PS3 BATTLEFIELD 4 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
16 (13) PSN PLAYSTATION NETWORK CARD 50 EUR (SCEE)
17 (09) 360 LEGO MARVEL SUPER HEROES (WARNER BROS. GAMES)
18 (17) 360 MINECRAFT (MICROSOFT)
19 (19) 3960 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE 2)
20 (16) PC BATTLEFIELD 4 PRE-ORDER EDITION (ELECTRONIC ARTS)

Xbox One still hasn't been released in Nordic countries but it seems that some third-party games are already available.

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Swedish Games chart
XBox One, week 47 2013

1	<	NEW	>	BATTLEFIELD 4	ELECTRONIC ARTS	XBOX ONE
2	<	NEW	>	BATTLEFIELD 4	ELECTRONIC ARTS	XBOX ONE
3	<	NEW	>	NEED FOR SPEED RIVALS	ELECTRONIC ARTS	XBOX ONE
4	<	NEW	>	FIFA 14	ELECTRONIC ARTS	XBOX ONE
5	<	NEW	>	BATTLEFIELD 4	ELECTRONIC ARTS	XBOX ONE
6	<	NEW	>	NBA 2K14	TAKE 2	XBOX ONE
7	<	NEW	>	NEED FOR SPEED RIVALS LIMITED EDITION	ELECTRONIC ARTS	XBOX ONE
8	<	NEW	>	FIFA 14	ELECTRONIC ARTS	XBOX ONE
9	<	NEW	>	CALL OF DUTY GHOSTS	ACTIVISION BLIZZARD	XBOX ONE
10	<	NEW	>	CALL OF DUTY GHOSTS HARDENED EDITION	ACTIVISION BLIZZARD	XBOX ONE
11	<	NEW	>	NBA LIVE 14	ELECTRONIC ARTS	XBOX ONE
12	<	NEW	>	CALL OF DUTY GHOSTS PRESTIGE EDITION	ACTIVISION BLIZZARD	XBOX ONE

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Norwegian Games chart
XBox One, week 47 2013

1	<	NEW	>	BATTLEFIELD 4	ELECTRONIC ARTS	XBOX ONE
2	<	NEW	>	FIFA 14	ELECTRONIC ARTS	XBOX ONE
3	<	NEW	>	CALL OF DUTY GHOSTS PRESTIGE EDITION	ACTIVISION BLIZZARD	XBOX ONE
4	<	NEW	>	NEED FOR SPEED: RIVALS LIMITED EDITION	ELECTRONIC ARTS	XBOX ONE
5	<	NEW	>	CALL OF DUTY GHOSTS HARDENED EDITION	ACTIVISION BLIZZARD	XBOX ONE
 

Moonstone

Member
No way. They have 38% market share vs PS3 alone this gen with a 17 month headstart and a lower price point for the life of the console. There is absolutely no way MS get anywhere near 35% in any European country other than the UK. Dropping from 38% to 35% would require MS to hold onto 2.2m out of the current 2.4m 360 owners in a similarly sized market. The real figure is going to be much, much higher. The expanded audience from the Wii have all moved onto iPad and most aren't coming back.

Yes, total numbers paint a wrong picture. Besides the 17 month headstart, 360 was constantly overshipped in germany and therefore often selling for 50-100&#8364; less than everywhere else.
Last year the ps3:360 rate was about 70% vs 30%.

This generation it's gonna be way worth for MS as they lost the hardcore crowd.
With 100&#8364; more, they can be lucky if they reach 25%. Titanfall is not gonna change that (at least in germany where pc rules).
 

nacimento

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Germany:
Week 47, 2013 - Individual Formats (Units)

01 (NE) PS4 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS
02 (NE) PC ASSASSIN'S CREED IV - BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
03 (NE) PS4 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV - BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
04 (NE) 3DS THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: A LINK BETWEEN WORLDS (NINTENDO)
05 (NE) XBO FORZA MOTORSPORT 5 (MICROSOFT)
06 (NE) XBO BATTLEFIELD 4 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
07 (01) PS3 CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
08 (NE) XBO RYSE - SON OF ROME (MICROSOFT)
09 (NE) XBO CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
10 (03) PS3 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE - TWO INTERACTIVE)
11 (04) PS3 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV - BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
12 (NE) XBO ASSASSIN'S CREED IV - BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
13 (08) PS3 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
14 (NE) PS3 NEED FOR SPEED: RIVALS (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
15 (06) PS3 BATTLEFIELD 4 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
16 (07) PC BATTLEFIELD 4 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
17 (10) 3DS PROFESSOR LAYTON AND THE AZRAN LEGACY (NINTENDO)
18 (05) 360 CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
19 (13) 3DS POKÉMON Y (NINTENDO)
20 (12) 3DS POKÉMON X (NINTENDO)
21 (NE) PS3 RATCHET AND CLANK: NEXUS (SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT)
22 (NE) XBO FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
23 (15) 3DS ANIMAL CROSSING: NEW LEAF (NINTENDO)
24 (19) WII JUST DANCE 2014 (UBISOFT)
25 (09) PC CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
26 (11) 360 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV - BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
27 (NE) PC NEED FOR SPEED: RIVALS (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
28 (20) WII SKYLANDERS: SWAP FORCE - STARTER PACK (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
29 (14) 360 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE - TWO INTERACTIVE)
30 (NE) PS4 CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
31 (31) 3DS NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. 2 (NINTENDO)
32 (28) 3DS LUIGI'S MANSION 2 (NINTENDO)
33 (35) 3DS MARIO KART 7 (NINTENDO)
34 (25) 360 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
35 (NE) XBO NEED FOR SPEED: RIVALS (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
36 (NE) WIU ASSASSIN'S CREED IV - BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
37 (23) 360 MINECRAFT: XBOX 360 EDITION (AK TRONIC)
38 (27) PC FARMING SIMULATOR 2013 (ASTRAGON)
39 (45) PC CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS II (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
40 (21) WIU WII PARTY U (NINTENDO)
41 (24) PS3 DIABLO III (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
42 (16) 360 BATTLEFIELD 4 ELECTRONIC ARTS)
43 (41) 3DS LEGO CITY UNDERCOVER: THE CHASE BEGINS (NINTENDO)
44 (18) PS3 LEGO MARVEL SUPER HEROES (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
45 (40) WII FIFA 14 - LEGACY EDITION (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
46 (02) PC X REBIRTH (KOCH MEDIA)
47 (39) PS3 F1 2013 (NAMCO BANDAI GAMES)
48 (37) PC THE ELDER SCROLLS V: SKYRIM (BETHESDA SOFTWORKS)
49 (22) PC FIFA MANAGER 14 - LEGACY EDITION (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
50 (NE) 360 NEED FOR SPEED: RIVALS (ELECTRONIC ARTS)

Farming Simulator will never die, lol.
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Brand new comparison, PS4 v.s. One

UK

Amazon.co.uk, as of 22:37 GMT

PS4 - 5th

FIFA 14
PS4 - 14th
One - 225th

Call of Duty: Ghosts
PS4 - 18th
One - 67th

Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
PS4 - 32th
One - 94th

Battlefield 4
PS4 - 34th
One - 85th

Xbox One - 50th

Need for Speed: Rivals
PS4 - 53rd
One - 761st

Dead Rising 3 - 56th

Killzone: Shadow Fall - 66th

Forza Motorsport 5 - 78th

Ryse: Son of Rome - 90th

PS4 + Knack - 95th

Four days ago

Amazon.co.uk Top 100, as of 15:12 GMT

PS4 - 5th

FIFA 14
PS4 - 13th
One - 136th

Call of Duty: Ghosts
PS4 - 17th
One - 49th

Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
PS4 - 22nd
One - 74th

Battlefield 3
PS4 - 28th
One - 63rd

PS4 + Knack - 32nd

Xbox One - 35th

Need for Speed: Rivals
PS4 - 48th
One - 336th

Dead Rising 3 - 58th

Forza Motorsport 5 - 61st

Killzone: Shadow Fall - 65th

Ryse: Son of Rome - 75th

Xbox One: Day One Edition + FIFA 14 - 93rd

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US

Amazon.com, as of 22:45 GMT

Lego Marvel Super Heroes
One - 70th*
PS4 - 148th

Call of Duty: Ghosts
One - 78th
PS4 - 82nd

Ryse: Son of Rome** - 91st

Forza Motorsport 5** - 97th

*@ $39.99
**@$49.99

Four days ago

If you're interested, here's the comparison between PS4 and One on Amazon US as well, as of 22:03 GMT

Ryse: Son of Rome* - 26th

Forza Motorsport 5* - 28th

Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag*
PS4 - 30th
One - 50th

Call of Duty: Ghosts*
One - 36th
PS4 - 37th

Dead Rising 3 - 39th*

Killzone: Shadow Fall* - 54th

Need for Speed:Rivals
PS4 - 68th
One* - 159th

Madden NFL 25*
One - 74th
PS4 - 101th

FIFA 14*
PS4 - 79th
One - 142nd

NBA 2K14
One - 97th
PS4 - 111st

Lego Marvel Super Heroes*
One - 99th
PS4 - 135th

Protip: Black Friday sales have an impact on UK charts, but it's not that big (particular items reappearing in charts for sure, but, from what I've seen, only a few - including Revelations 3DS, Rhythm Thief and Dead or Alive 3DS :lol ); such influence is definitively massive in US Amazon chart. However, some PS4 and One titles participate in deals as well, and titles like both Pokémon SKUs (just $5 deal), Animal Crossing (around the same as the price it has for some months), Mario Kart 7 (not that different from the most recent price), Zelda and Mario (still full price) are higher than all next gen efforts.
 
I got I feeling the Wii is a major reason for why Wii U is struggling in Europe. The machine is still have a big active userbase around there and aren't willing to migrate to Wii U so easily. I think Nintendo is suffering the same problem from Sega in the US in the Genesis days. Saturn came out and the Genesis userbase was still active and didn't migrate to the successor so quickly. Wii U's confusing name, awful advertising, lack of retailing stock and shortage of quality games isn't helping either, but as long the Wii does have an active userbase around there, Wii U will keep struggling. Nintendo needs to kill off Wii as soon as they can if they want Wii U to stand a chance.
 
I got I feeling the Wii is a major reason for why Wii U is struggling in Europe. The machine is still have a big active userbase around there and aren't willing to migrate to Wii U so easily. I think Nintendo is suffering the same problem from Sega in the US in the Genesis days. Saturn came out and the Genesis userbase was still active and didn't migrate to the successor so quickly. Wii U's confusing name, awful advertising, lack of retailing stock and shortage of quality games isn't helping either, but as long the Wii does have an active userbase around there, Wii U will keep struggling. Nintendo needs to kill off Wii as soon as they can if they want Wii U to stand a chance.
I don't think you are correct. That is exactly what Sony has always been doing with every generational transition and they have gained a lot from it.
 
The major reason people aren't buying the Wii U in Europe is that people in Europe don't want the Wii U.

If there was still a highly active Wii userbase the software sales for the platform wouldn't have collapsed.
 
The major reason people aren't buying the Wii U in Europe is that people in Europe don't want the Wii U.

If there was still a highly active Wii userbase the software sales for the platform wouldn't have collapsed.

People in Europe not even know what Wii U is to begin with, you talk like people have developed a denial against it. That's not how it works.

Nintendo has long abandoned the Wii and still there are still games selling on the machine, as the charts indicates, so there are an active userbase, there's no denial.

I don't think you are correct. That is exactly what Sony has always been doing with every generational transition and they have gained a lot from it.

You can take Sega Genesis, GBA and Nintendo DS as examples in the US of platforms that were still hot when their successors came out and slowed down their sales at the beginning. PSP did the same in Japan, too. It won't be surprise if PS3 eat PS4's cake considering it's still hot and PS4 isn't that appealing yet.
 
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