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Penn & Teller: Fool Us....how did the guy do this trick?
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Trurl said:
It's why I kind of want them to bring this over to the US.
But then over here, the network would probably just make them bring on people with "interesting stories" and would pad the show with taped mini-biographies of each person's home life, who only know one trick.
I agree. They're always very supportive and the most "confrontational" I've seen them get was in the first episode where they told the guy that the him forcing Ross to view the 10 of hearts through suggestion was bullshit.Trurl said:
I really love how encouraging they are to the young acts, and how they appreciate the effort and artistry that is put into each performance even if they know how the trick is performed.
Schmattakopf
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There was also that one guy with the CD players - they weren't confrontational about it, but they weren't very supportive. Probably because it was terrible.mre said:
Gareth Bale
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picklecannon said:
That's what I thought straight away, which makes the trick easy enough anyone to do, but Penn said they didn't use any trap doors.
If there is just a hole in the bag and a door on the back of the box, then it's a pretty poor trick.
Metal-Geo said:Holy fucking wanks...
That was incredible.
While entertaining and though I know I don't have the experience to do it myself, the tricks in that video were just fairly common slight of hand tricks that you'll see from a lot of illusionists, though I love the presentation.
He picks up 4 kings for instance but makes it seem like just 1 to the audience. When the 5 ends up in his mouth, all he did was simply place the 5 as the second to last card while making the audience think it was the last card. He then puts the card we think is the 5 back into the deck while raising his hand and putting the second to last card, now the last, into his mouth.
He does a similar trick when he pops the 5 up to the top of the deck. He doesn't just fold one card but two, places the second in the deck while compressing the first and holding it in place until he lets go. I think he almost fumbles here when it comes to separating both bent cards.
He does a similar trick when he pops the 5 up to the top of the deck. He doesn't just fold one card but two, places the second in the deck while compressing the first and holding it in place until he lets go. I think he almost fumbles here when it comes to separating both bent cards.
These are fairly basic tricks that are presented extremely well (but generally reveal themselves if you work the trick backwards). His Penn and Teller bit was much better on a scale of "What? How? But I? Did I? You couldn't... It was just... No way!".
benjipwns
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2qLxN1fF1Qmre said:
The quick change pair was pretty fun to watch even if not very "fooling": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvrtbiz6C0M
parrotbeak
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Hah, was watching them in order and just got to this one and it's taking forever to load. Probably cuz it just got posted here and dozens of people are clicking on it.benjipwns said:
benjipwns
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You can also find some of them uploaded as full episodes instead of split into parts, that whole episode for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYtTt1e7wms
This isn't from Fool Us, but I think it's a pretty cool homage to Penn & Teller's cups and balls routine:Dead Man Typing said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJN1iMOfgAc
petethepanda
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This show is great.
Schmattakopf
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And he was so confident! I thought he was going to do something amazing.mre said:
No card switch. There's a very obvious tell that shows how the trick is done.SmithnCo said:
When the partner is smacked after the second attempt, he doubles over and stuffs the card into his mouth. When he comes back up, you can see that the duct tape has clearly moved, showing more of his chin. It's too bad this wasn't noticed by P&T, because once you see it, it's glaringly obvious.
That said, what these guys did, and the other ones with the silhouettes, was do the move for a VERY sloppy switch. The fact is, magic is all about misdirection. Make your audience not see something that happens, or think they see something that didn't really happen. When your audience is a couple of experienced magicians, you have to misdirect with something they're expecting to see (like a switch).
The problem I had with the silhouette guys is that, even when Penn asks them if they made the motion for a deck switch, they lied. You can see on P&T's faces that they know they were just lied to, and weren't happy about it. With the duct tape guys, it's obvious they're happy about it, because they were clear about the intentional misdirect.
One came off as weasely, and the other as playful.
Yeah, not fooling, as all quick change acts are basically done the same, but wow, do they have it nailed down beautifully. And not a lot of quick change artists are confident enough to move that much during their act.benjipwns said:
firehawk12
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Which act was this again?AMUSIX said:
Planet_JASE
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I don't think there was a switch. I think there was a complex series of handsignals (+ probably other indicators) that was the key. Watch the hand of the guy taking the cards and you can see that they change with each card.AMUSIX said:
That's my thought, anyway.
Planet_JASE
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Huh, hadn't thought about that. Still, that guys hand changes were still suspect...RagnarokX said:
JonathanEx
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Also, they can't lie. There's an independent verifier on the production team who knows how it is done.
heres the duct tape trick done at another time from another angle...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg1uKnTmhus&feature=related
seems like it confirms they did a fake switch on the show to throw them off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg1uKnTmhus&feature=related
seems like it confirms they did a fake switch on the show to throw them off
John Dunbar
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it wasn't an accident, it was a joke.Divvy said:lol
At 4:10 you can see him accidentally open the trapdoor on the cup with his wand.
EDIT: Or maybe he just missed, it's late
PjotrStroganov
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Kentpaul said:
No, they are the highest. You actually have to have talent for that.
VisionaryQuest0
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RagnarokX said:
I have a feeling Penn figured that out too. Penn says, even after they had already stated that they were fooled, he still had a good idea how they did it. It was too late at that point.
I don't get how the show exactly works. Like that one trick that fooled them where the guy said that he was inspired by another magician who had the same trick, but he came up with a different method.VisionaryQuest0 said:
If there's two methods and Penn and Teller guess one of them, but it wasn't the one used, does that count as being fooled?
Planet_JASE
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Not in the slightest. I find it one of the best forms, as all of the magic happens right in front of the audience, 'in plain sight', so to speak. Putting up a curtain and them performing a switcharoo is less impressive to me.Kentpaul said:
Planet_JASE
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And thus, the opinion turns to fact.Kentpaul said:
Obligatory: /thread.
Planet_JASE
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Also: Tag Quote.
Planet_JASE
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No, it doesn't. Being derisive to a highly skilled act in such a way and then reply to others opinion with "I've been to more shows than you" is what makes you stupid and uniformed.Kentpaul said:
(Sorry, that last part is there only because you set up it so expertly. The rest of that reply is serious. You may replace it with "is what made people reply so tersely.")
You're very entitled to your opinion, as am I, but that doesn't allow either of us to deliver it in such a manner.
Metroid Killer
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The thing with card tricks is that they can appear quite boring. They also appear very reppetitive since they all deal with... cards. Of course the best ones absolutely blow me away, and they show pure skills.
The thing with magics show is that they are visually very pleasing and entertaining to watch. However when you learn that most of them rely on audience being in on it/fake props/hidden wires/etc then the magic disappear for me.
This is why I turn to God and Christianity for the magic the truly blows me away.
The thing with magics show is that they are visually very pleasing and entertaining to watch. However when you learn that most of them rely on audience being in on it/fake props/hidden wires/etc then the magic disappear for me.
This is why I turn to God and Christianity for the magic the truly blows me away.
Planet_JASE
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That's the spirit!Kentpaul said:
Back on topic: I lost most of yesterday and this morning because of this thread, so you're the only one between us that has had one.
Zomba13
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I disagree with you but it is your opinion.Kentpaul said:
Might also help to not call someone else an elitist right before pulling the 'I've been to more magic shows than you' card.
I personally dislike all tricks that use a screen. Like being locked in the chest then pulling the screen to cover it.
I don't mind screens/covers in quick change acts. Like the ringed sheet cover thing because those are only used very quickly rather than a screen being pulled in front of a chest for a bit while a guy dances about.
Also, I'm up to date on all the Fool Us episodes. Love them all, especially some of P&T's tricks. Most of them I've seen before in their other shows but I can't remember the one with Teller and the money/goldfish. That blows me away.
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