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Persona 5 - PV 04 [New Trailer]
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Back then jrpgs were much bigger even in Japan.
Dwight Schrute
Member
Are we expecting US / EU release dates at E3 ?
cj_iwakura
Member
Philemon and Nyarlathotep are never happening again, best people accept that early on. It falls under Hashino not wanting to use anything from Satomi Tadashi's works. The only reason we have Igor is because of how iconic he is. (And Philemon's not very hands-on, anyway, so he's fine just as a reference point.)
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Yup...well Us anyway I see no reason to be there otherwise
Linkstrikesback
Member
cj_iwakura
Member
Of course, a reference at best. He'll never actually be there in corporeal form again.
MaximumSpider
Banned
US not EU but yeah
snow in jamaica
Member
What if Philemon and Nyarlathotep had more substantial presences that were still only implicit?
Igor acts as a puppet of philemon, but curiosity makes him more human. Like he has its own agenda besides being a resident of the Velvet Room.
DrunkShogun
Member
I'm expecting the actual date for release for e3 for Na and doubt much for eu. Would honestly consider eu release being confirmed and dated would be a easy highlight for e3.
I don't get why people want them to return anyway, their story is over, Nyarlathotep got utterly humiliated by EP team, there isn't much to do with them without feeling like they are dragging on these characters.
IaN_GAF
Member
Wow, thanks a bunch. I'm going with your FES recommendation.
DrunkShogun
Member
One thing you can consider is if you found yourself fond of the characters and world, then femc route for P3p might be worthwhile as it fleshes out a lot of character.
Yeah. Nyarlathotep's never going to get a better showing than him being the villian of both games in Persona 2, so I don't see the need for using him any further.
KibblesBits
Member
That's debatable about humiliation. Batsu only turned out positive because of Maya acting like an adult. It had very nearly the same outcome as Tsumi.
michaelius
Banned
Are there any rumors about P3FES or P4 coming to PS4 ?
Napalm_Frank
Member
No but they probably will someday.
DrunkShogun
Member
Other than fans hoping, there has been no evidence to suggest any development of that nature. There's significant potential as Atlus seems to appreciate their older ips and both games have appeared on the psn store for PS3.
CrimsonFist
Member
Don't think there's even been any butterflies at all in any P5 media so far.
we haven't seen save points have we
I would love this especially since I have not played persona 3 and would love to play it on PS4 with trophy support. I'll wait till E3 as something could be announced there along with what presumably will be the English trailer +NA/EU
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I agree they were pretty disappointing. It's hard to even guess what they could be, though. P3 and P4 had specific pantheons/cultures that they were taking inspiration from for the party's personas and for the big bads of each game. P5's party personas seem to be a scattershot of cultures with the unifying theme of thieves and rebels. That's a really big category to choose from. Since they're going with inspiration from some western cultures, maybe it'll be straight up Lucifer, the uber pretty boy rebel.
Personally, I liked that the antagonists were
physical manifestations of societal needs and desires. I think these games are super symbolic in nature, and I'm fine with the final battle being more of an allegory for the overall theme than an actual direct conflict between two people.
DrunkShogun
Member
I thinks it because the justification has always felt weak. I don't need the greatest villain ever written but give me a villain that you can see where his beliefs are and his justification. All other antagonist have been pantomime level of villainy.
Olengie
Member
Believe
I think it says it all that at first when I read this I thought, "Hey, I thought Nyx was cool", and then realized that I had forgotten Strega even existed.
Was this scene already discussed?
Here you can see Morgana hiding on the left side behind a statue and on the bottom right her status says something like "dispatched". I wonder if this is a special action just for this boss fight or if you can do this all the time. Probably at one point you can call her back and she will perform some backstab attack or something like that.
Here you can see Morgana hiding on the left side behind a statue and on the bottom right her status says something like "dispatched". I wonder if this is a special action just for this boss fight or if you can do this all the time. Probably at one point you can call her back and she will perform some backstab attack or something like that.
I think that just means she's at 0 HP and effectively "dispatched" instead of dead.
Yep. The sad part is, persona 4 had the best role model with Diamond is Unbreakable.
As for Persona 5, I think it's a shady organisation like the Yotsuba group in Death Note.
P3 maybe, I don't agree with P4.
AgentLampshade
Member
I want to see an evil Wild Card.
It seems the antagonists are people who have power and abuse it. There also looks like a big organization they're all connected to.
It's a bait and switch. You think it's the yakuza, but then it turns out to be Aum Shinrikyou part deux.
YankeeDonB
Member
The references to them in 3 and 4 are certainly subtle. I like their wager though, reminds me of the ur-gods' (demons, whatever) wagers in the Xanth books.
Holundrian
Unconfirmed Member
I hope the true antagonists are Persona users themselves instead of godlike/mythical beings.
Thinking back I feel like the most exciting/memorable fights were vs other Persona users(Velvet Room Attendants/Strega/Adachi<- although he is the weakest out of the bunch). I think most of that is just the nature of it. Stakes feel more personal vs another person instead of some being that's the manifestation of who knows what.
Thinking back I feel like the most exciting/memorable fights were vs other Persona users(Velvet Room Attendants/Strega/Adachi<- although he is the weakest out of the bunch). I think most of that is just the nature of it. Stakes feel more personal vs another person instead of some being that's the manifestation of who knows what.
eyeball_kid
Member
I'd agree with this. Strega was just following their own path, similar to the opposing demon factions in Nocturne. Strega really didn't care about SEES except when the group was interfering with their own goals.
You know some godlike being had to have created the Palace.
Eh, I really liked
as an antagonist in P4. I agree that the "final final boss" was disappointing though, in more ways than just one.
Conversely, P3 had the opposite problem where Strega were lame antagonists but Nyx worked really well for the concept they were going for, so I guess it balances out.
Adachi
Conversely, P3 had the opposite problem where Strega were lame antagonists but Nyx worked really well for the concept they were going for, so I guess it balances out.
Holundrian
Unconfirmed Member
Not if everything was just a dream ..... y_y
In all seriousness it's ok if it's a godlike being but make it a contract like thing so we at least have a proxy that can have some character.
Let that being be the persona of someone.
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Saw something interesting on the megaten reddit
If you look at the bottom you can see that Anne isn't in the party yet she is part of that tag attack.
Saw something interesting on the megaten reddit
If you look at the bottom you can see that Anne isn't in the party yet she is part of that tag attack.
Wouldn't be surprised if it's something like P4G's scooter attacks.