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[Lunar15]

I'd pretty much put it out there, not even as a spoiler, that a God is probably going to be a dick.

Then again, I guess this one doesn't really revolve around mythology at all.

 

[Zolo]

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At least Nyx and Erebus were more forces of nature unlike Izanami who was just a dick. Nyartholep's pretty much the devil as far as being a representation of people's shadows so at least it's kind of his job.

 

[A Dead Diehard]

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At least Nyx and Erebus were more forces of nature unlike Izanami who was just a dick. Nyartholep's pretty much the devil as far as being a representation of people's shadows so at least it's kind of his job.

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Izanami was a dick who was also very selective with the information she was given, just like Nyx (or at least the avatar). Erebus was for sure a force of nature, and Nyarly... I don't know, but I've been lead to believe he's a schemer set on bringing about man's downfall to win a bet.

 

[TurnipFritters]

He's just a huge cosmic jackass, which is fine because in the context of the Persona series (or SMT as a whole), it's nice to have a Big Bad that's a scenery chewing jackass once in a while, instead of what amounts to a personality-less force of nature.

 

[cj_iwakura]

So...

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another Strega?

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Great idea, wasted potential. P2 has far more dangerous 'rival' Persona users in the Masquerade and Wang Long Chizuru.

They're also difficult. Strega are never even remotely challenging,

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or even fought at the same time.

 

[Makio]

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Maybe I haven't been following everything, but aren't the phantom thieves considered the terrorists?

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to quote the PV04 they reference an organization so big even the police cant do shit "even if we get involved we get erased" plus other line saying "what a troublesome organization to be target by

i dont recognize jap voices very well but if the main party girls saying those lines then they refer to an antagonist not the Phantom Thieves

 

[A Dead Diehard]

Great idea, wasted potential. P2 has far more dangerous 'rival' Persona users in the Masquerade and Wang Long Chizuru.

They're also difficult. Strega are never even remotely challenging,

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or even fought at the same time.

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Wich makes their success even more infuriating.

 

[CrimsonFist]

Another week and no reveal of Goro's Persona.

 

[Jintor]

don't say 'jap' plz

 

[A Dead Diehard]

don't say 'jap' plz

The correct abbreviation is "JP", no?
Nowhere near as slur-ish.

 

[Setsu00]

Another week and no reveal of Goro's Persona.

I'm pretty sure they aren't going to reveal his Persona and they probably won't reveal his thief outfit either. The last spot on the official website for the main characters was filled by the Velvet Room attendants.

However, if they do reveal it, they might do it in the last trailer (presumably PV5).

 

[CrimsonFist]

I'm pretty sure they aren't going to reveal his Persona and they probably won't reveal his thief outfit either. The last spot on the official website for the main characters was filled by the Velvet Room attendants.

However, if they do reveal it, they might do it in the last trailer (presumably PV5).

There was never a "last spot" before the Velvet Attendants were added though.

Wonder if there will be another full PV at all. Usually the launch "trailer" is the op, which they've already uploaded.

 

[Setsu00]

There was never a "last spot" before the Velvet Attendants were added though.

Wonder if there will be another full PV at all. Usually the launch "trailer" is the op, which they've already uploaded.

"Last spot" was a bad wording, but there was enough space on the page ´for one more character without having to modify it.

I'm pretty sure there's going to be one last trailer. Atlus loves the number 5 way too much to stop at PV4 for Persona 5.

 

[asagami_]

Now we are talking about enemies I wonder if the Persona resonance is going to return. Hell, I could live even if only the MC have the abilitie to hold multiple Personae, but the resonance was something I really miss

And good villains... but I'm some confident they will be.

 

[Zolo]

Battle

In battle, an ally can be taken hostage when they’re knocked out. If you refuse demands for an item and fail negotiations, your ally will no longer be able to battle. But by using the Phantom Thieves Alliance, you can receive help from other players.

source: http://personacentral.com/persona-5s-thief-alliance-online-systems-detailed/

Well, that's certainly a new way to do negotiations.

 

[.JayZii]

Looking at the character designs, I feel like Soejima channeled more of his inner Kaneko on the NPC designs. I like them.

source: http://personacentral.com/persona-5s-thief-alliance-online-systems-detailed/

Well, that's certainly a new way to do negotiations.

That is interesting. Hopefully the negotiations are slightly less nonsensical than they have been in the past.

 

[Zolo]

That is interesting. Hopefully the negotiations are slightly less nonsensical than they have been in the past.

I can imagine it now.

Oni: Give me 5000 yen!
>Okay.
Oni: Give me 7000 yen!
>Okay.
Oni: Give me ointment!
>Okay.
>Oni kills party member anyway because he's a dick.

 

[bluethree]

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Why no? I mean I'll admit Strega kinda petered out but I personally really like the idea of an antagonistic group with similar abilities to your own. Beats the hell out of yet another God being a dick.

I agree with this, even though P5 probably will have

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another god being a dick

as the main baddie. More human antagonists would make things more interesting.

 

[.JayZii]

Were those character commercial released all at once? I wonder when Ryuji, Sakura and Goro will get theirs. I like seeing everybody's flashy splash screen finisher, but I still think "Adieu" is the best one shown so far.

 

[CrimsonFist]

Were those character commercial released all at once? I wonder when Ryuji, Sakura and Goro will get theirs. I like seeing everybody's flashy splash screen finisher, but I still think "Adieu" is the best one shown so far.

They've been released weekly, Monday for the original tv broadcast, then an official upload a few hours later.

There are only two more scheduled, so it's very unlikely that Goro will get one.

 

[.JayZii]

They've been released weekly, Monday for the original tv broadcast, then an official upload a few hours later.

There are only two more scheduled, so it's very unlikely that Goro will get one.

That makes sense. Thanks for the reply.

I wonder if Goro is literally going to be Naoto 2.0, or if they will do something unexpected with his part in the story. He seems to be fitting the archetype exactly so far, but they are keeping him pretty mysterious.

 

[Zolo]

That makes sense. Thanks for the reply.

I wonder if Goro is literally going to be Naoto 2.0, or if they will do something unexpected with his part in the story. He seems to be fitting the archetype exactly so far, but they are keeping him pretty mysterious.

Goro's only Naoto 2.0 as far as being a detective. His personality's completely different and he has a more antagonistic relationship through most of the story by the looks of it.

 

[Morning Star]

Part of me believes that they're going to do something unexpected with Goro's character and they're relying on the Detective Prince thing to lead us a stray. Which is why they've been so obtuse, concerning and cutting him out of promotional material. I don't think we'll see much more of him this close to the release.

If there isn't an "oh" moment when it comes to his character I'll be surprised.

 

[CrimsonFist]

Goro's gotten more attention during promo events than anyone besides the MC and Morgana. He's just not been revealed as a party member.

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He's also introduced in game before any of the other party members

 

[.JayZii]

Part of me believes that they're going to do something unexpected with Goro's character and they're relying on the Detective Prince thing to lead us a stray. Which is why they've been so obtuse, concerning and cutting him out of promotional material. I don't think we'll see much more of him this close to the release.

If there isn't an "oh" moment when it comes to his character I'll be surprised.

I agree with that sentiment.

 

[A Dead Diehard]

Part of me believes that they're going to do something unexpected with Goro's character and they're relying on the Detective Prince thing to lead us a stray. Which is why they've been so obtuse, concerning and cutting him out of promotional material. I don't think we'll see much more of him this close to the release.

If there isn't an "oh" moment when it comes to his character I'll be surprised.

At the very least, a "huh" moment.

 

[.JayZii]

At the very least, a "huh" moment.

Hopefully not a, "..." moment.

 

[A Dead Diehard]

Hopefully not a, "..." moment.

They're only really in trouble when we get a "hrmm..." moment.

 

[Lunar15]

I think y'all are setting your sights a little high. The twist will be that he joins the team. That's why they quickly stopped showing promotional materials with him in it, other than the cover which they can't help.

Knowing that doesn't matter, though. The question is why he joins. We know he already somewhat admires them, but there's probably some event that either forces them to team up or he sees things their way.

 

[TurnipFritters]

I hope the twist is that he doesn't join the party at all.

 

[Lusankya]

I hope the twist is that he doesn't join the party at all.

Well, he does get DLC costumes after all.

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But maybe that's how Atlus want to fool us.

 

[Theodoricos]

Either way I hope they do something unconventional with him, I don't want him to be a repeat of any of the archetypes from the previous Persona cast members. He's easily my most anticipated character from the promotional material that we've seen so far, so I hope he lives up to the expectations.

I was initially looking forward to Futaba most, thinking that I'd like her best, but with each trailer/reveal she's become less and less appealing while Goro looks more and more interesting.

 

[Zolo]

Well, he does get DLC costumes after all.

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But maybe that's how Atlus want to fool us.

Who knows? Maybe it's his twin brother.

 

[.JayZii]

Any guesses on who Goro's persona will be based on? Sherlock might be too on the nose, but he himself takes inspiration from Kogoro Akechi, so they probably won't double up.

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You know it's Inspector Zenigata.

 

[Lunar15]

Any guesses on who Goro's persona will be based on? Sherlock might be too on the nose, but he himself takes inspiration from Kogoro Akechi, so they probably won't double up.

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You know it's Inspector Zenigata.

He seems too smart and ambitious to be Zenigata. I think he's just gonna be a sherlock.

 

[CrimsonFist]

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I feel like Sae would fit the "less competent" detective role better

 

[A Dead Diehard]

Who knows? Maybe it's his twin brother.

Kintaro?

 

[Mobile Suit Gooch]

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"I'm not going to obey your orders anymore"

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"This is..My answer!"

I wonder what the context is...

 

[Zolo]

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"I'm not going to obey your orders anymore"

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"This is..My answer!"

I wonder what the context is...

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Her father's one of the targets that has a palace.

 

[A Dead Diehard]

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Her father's one of the targets that has a palace.

Waitwaitwait! Hold the phone.

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Is this our best example of honest-to-YHVH emancipation so far in this game?

edit: Yes, but I meant in the most direct sense.

 

[.JayZii]

Waitwaitwait! Hold the phone.

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Is this our best example of honest-to-YHVH emancipation so far in this game?

Idk, haven't played it.

I think the idea is that they all are emancipating themselves societal structures and social norms in different ways that are unique to each character..

 

[properpropaganda]

So I just got the Chie figma and I didn't reallize exactly how small figmas were. Anyways, now that I have Chie I need Yukiko. Anyone know where I could grab her at a decent price (Im NA, btw)? And I supposed Yu as well to go with the P3 and P5 protags when they get released....

 

[barybll]

I can imagine it now.

Oni: Give me 5000 yen!
>Okay.
Oni: Give me 7000 yen!
>Okay.
Oni: Give me ointment!
>Okay.
>Oni kills party member anyway because he's a dick.

 

[Funyarinpa]

Any guesses on who Goro's persona will be based on? Sherlock might be too on the nose, but he himself takes inspiration from Kogoro Akechi, so they probably won't double up.

Part of me wants it to be a homage to Inspector Gadget lol. Metallic arms and everything.

 

[PK Gaming]

Everyone keeps posting that Pokemon x Negotiation comic, but the single best example of negotiation is from SMT4:

"HURRY! DIG HOLE!"

Dialogue choices:
->Dig
-Dig
-Dig

GOOD! THAT YOUR GRAVE! (demon attacks)

 

[barybll]

Everyone keeps posting that Pokemon x Negotiation comic, but the single best example of negotiation is from SMT4:

Both are classics

 

[Inquisitive_Ghost]

My favourite negotiation conversation is still the Soul Hackers one where the demon tells you he's playing Soul Hackers and that he's at the part where he meets a human named [the protagonist] and then he freaks out and questions what world he exists in.

 

[Zolo]

Everyone keeps posting that Pokemon x Negotiation comic, but the single best example of negotiation is from SMT4:

.

 

[The n00b Avenger]

Regarding the P3 scene (includes spoilers for - obviously - Persona 3 and Neon Genesis Evangelion):

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When I watched Winter of Rebirth a couple of weeks ago, I remembered that Ryoji was voiced by Akira Ishida who also voiced Kaworu Nagisa in Evangelion. While I realized this before, I recently came to there might actually be a meta reason for this. Ryoji's and Kaworu's roles in their respective stories are incredible similiar: Both are supposed to be humanity's enemies in human disguise and offer the protagonist a choice. Ryoji wants to be killed by the protagonist so that he and the rest of SEES can die in bliss while Kaworu wants Shinji to kill him as he is a potential trigger of the Third Impact. The difference here is the correct choice: Killing Kaworu gives humanity another chance to survive while killing Ryoji would mean humanity's certain end.

Kaworu was essentially Akira Ishida's breakthrough. Kaworu is one of the most popular characters in one of the most famous anime of all time despite appearing in only one episode of the show's original run. Kaworu's role and importance increased in subsequent adaptions of NGE and he pretty much was the deuteragonist of the third Rebuild movie. Akira Ishida and Kaworu are pretty much inseperable and I would assume that this is especially true for someone immersed in Japanese media.

The point I'm trying to make is that a Japanese player might go into the scene with different expectations. Maybe they were trying to make people believe that killing Ryoji is the right choice as killing Kaworu was the right choice in NGE. It's obvious for a number of reasons that letting Ryoji live is the thing to do in P3, but I wonder if they cast Akira Ishida specifically to let the player doubt his decisions.

Tl;dr:

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Atlus may have tried to play with the expectations of the Japanese audience with the decision scene in Persona 3.

It wouldn't even be the only time they use Eva voice actors in a meta way. See: Shinji's voice actor's character being obsessed with a character named Shinji

 

[Lunar15]

Has anyone else noticed that the MC's responses to questions look pretty short? They have to fit in those tiny boxes. Shame if true, I liked some of the longer responses from earlier games, unless I forget how long they actually are.