No one played Strange Journey
I did. It was a little difficult for my liking and the characters weren't too interesting.
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Persona Series Story & Spoilers, P4G Reflection, Persona 5 Speculation Inevitable
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I did. It was a little difficult for my liking and the characters weren't too interesting.
Supermanisdead
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Why do so many people like Chie and Yukiko? Yeah, their designs are nice, but wow are their social links boring as it gets. The fact that you have to rank them to ten to get their ultimate Persona wasn't a great idea.
TurnipFritters
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Chie kicks things, but Yukiko is hella dull.
Supermanisdead
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My favourite social link was the fat kid from P3. He was a joke but I loved it. And Kenji was great too. There was a point where I thought me might actually get with the teacher.
Lemon Crest
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Naoto has the best S.Link out of the girls.
You go around doing encyclopedia brown shit.
What's not to like?
You go around doing encyclopedia brown shit.
What's not to like?
we.are.the.armada
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I wrote this gigantic post, but ended up deleting most of it and only this remains: The potential to attract new fans is possibly stunted because they don't have cognitive bias (like nostalgia) for the dungeons/combat.
On a side note, even while playing P4G, I can't help but think the same way I did years ago when I was playing P2, despite it being advanced in many ways: so much tedium. The game practically slams on the brakes and makes you talk to every NPC, everywhere, until a dialogue trigger allows for progression. I'm becoming less and less indifferent to this, but I'd wager many people can't stand it.
Persona is a sensitive issue, veiled insults at what people like, and the cycle will repeat at Persona 7 in 2020
Everybody is different and has different likes/dislikes.
On a side note, even while playing P4G, I can't help but think the same way I did years ago when I was playing P2, despite it being advanced in many ways: so much tedium. The game practically slams on the brakes and makes you talk to every NPC, everywhere, until a dialogue trigger allows for progression. I'm becoming less and less indifferent to this, but I'd wager many people can't stand it.
Persona is a sensitive issue, veiled insults at what people like, and the cycle will repeat at Persona 7 in 2020
Everybody is different and has different likes/dislikes.
SatelliteOfLove
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"This ain't no charity. Here, have more P4."
They're yet more characters that wove into the narrative well. I also liked the near-polar opposites angle they were working with them, and the use of a type of friendship drama not often seen in much male-penned video game narrative.
That's pacing. That's variety. That's not a one-note wonder experience that never changes or tastes "different" from other games coming out around the same time. I've had enough vapid painted-self-into-corners design decisions this generation, thank you.
The part where you have to hang out with Naoto.
TurnipFritters
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They're terrible, especially since the "investigation" you're doing isn't to find clues about the killer or even who the next victim might be... it's to find "clues" so you can find them in the TV. It doesn't add anything to the game, it just brings the game to a halt for several days. IIRC, there's also a shocking lack of feedback from your allies on whether or not you have enough info to find the dungeon too.
buddha0991
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You are basing those on what the characters, like Kanji, ended up like in the game. The original versions of all the characters were wildly different. A few remnants of the old versions remain, proto Dojima became Taro Namatame and proto Rise became Ai Ebihara.
Not really. The gang make several hints and a chime sounds when you've got the necessary info. With Rise and Kanji I believe the game actually says, "You should tell Teddie about the info you've found."
I do agree that they grind the pacing to a halt. It doesn't feel organic. I think the problem with mysteries in a game is that most time they're far too easy to solve or rely on an illogical twist to keep the player guessing. I hated how quickly I figured out the pattern to the kidnappings vs the amount of time it takes the actual P4 characters.
"I wonder who that girl in the kimono is?!"
SatelliteOfLove
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Interestingly enough, talking with the others could act as a release valve of sorts. The less successful you were in finding info, the more they would have scrounged up on subsequent days. Savvy players (or faqs users, same difference), would get more days in the dungeon. Much less would be explained to the player beforehand.
The thing about that one was we were given "need to know basis" info in cutscenes about that. We werent' there watching TV evening after evening with a bunch of false positives, either.
You're a bad person.
Lemon Crest
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Oh god she would be fucking every dude that walks within 20 yards of her with her daddy issues combined with persona shit fucking with her head. >_<
I really liked them as characters. Doesn't hurt that their interaction with Yu and the others is really funny sometimes, especially Yukiko's fake drunk scene.
Axelstream
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As a Naoto fan, even I have to say that her S. Link put me to sleep.
I say she has the weakest out of them all.
I liked Ayane's, Ai's, Yukiko's, Chie's, Rise's, Kanji's, and Yosuke's. Yosuke's S. Link was the most bro-est though. Yosuke is such a bro. He is what Junpei should of been.
Supermanisdead
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Yosuke is a pathetic sycophant. I liked that Junpei had his own friends and shit. He wasn't hanging on my nuts for approval.
Lucent
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I did this when I was playing the PS2 version. But when I lost my save I stopped and went on to something else. Now that I got P4G, I'm gonna attempt her again. I like her.
I..I don't think I can look at nana-chan anymore.
Now picture that sentence while looking at one of the early concept arts for Nanako that has her in a baseball cap, twintails, and jeans.
You're welcome for the disturbing mental image.
But Junpei was a straight up hater towards Minato, literally. It's worse when he goes on his jealous mode towards Hamuko.
Man, how come those kind of designs were nowhere to be seen in Persona 4? It would be so awesome if Atlus could step out of their comfort zone with P5 starring a cast of young adults entering the workforce or something, but I'm not holding my breath.
SpaceBridge
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I want a P5 set in an urban area, with more places to explore beyond a mall and park.
Supermanisdead
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With the stronger consoles I hope they make a fleshed out, seamless city. There can still be the fast travel menu but I liked running around the city and talking to every npc.
This SO MUCH. I hate how they keep cramming more and more female anime robots into the games. At least make a dude if they insist on having another robot.
A bro-bot would be awesome but I need more adorable female bots like Aigis and Labrys. They should go red head this time and give her a giant zweihander which she makes come out of nowhere through hammerspace.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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Did they remake p2s soundtrack with awesome jpop like they did p1? Besides unbreakable ties, I don't recall any new jpop songs in the psp port. This fanmade p2 playlist it's nice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9n-RmfQy0k&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Atlus should remake p2. Game is pretty much unplayable these days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9n-RmfQy0k&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Atlus should remake p2. Game is pretty much unplayable these days.
bloodyroarxx
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If they were to continue with a social link style game I would like to see adults maybe in a workplace environment, think about it exams could be a change for promotions.
I love me some Persona but after 3 and 4 I'm done with the highschool setting, a more mature setting like 2 would be very welcome
I love me some Persona but after 3 and 4 I'm done with the highschool setting, a more mature setting like 2 would be very welcome
I support this notion.
cj_iwakura
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One thing I'd like to see for P5 is an Atlas flavored visual presentation with the quality of those CyberConnect 2 Naruto games. I've been dying to see that kind of animation quality in an RPG and Persona would benefit greatly from such a presentation. If they could just bring the artwork to life...
Elaborate on this? I have no idea what you're referring to.
As in, like, cel shading? Or literally the visual presentation?
production quality, animations, etc prolly. Those naruto games look lovely in that regard.
I never once cringed at an Aigis line.
Every labrys line makes me laugh (in a bad way) or cringe. Took away most of the impact from her story.
Why use spoilers in a spoiler thread?
My favorites were the same though I'd add Magatsu Inaba to the list as well.
we.are.the.armada
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I like Heaven and Izanami's. Good music, straight forward set up, good enemy combination in some cases.
Hey, can anybody explain how Teddie brought Nanako back from the dead? Was it just a deus ex machina?
buddha0991
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^nanomachines
So who's the best fighter, Reiji Kido, Lisa Silverman, Ulala Serizawa, Akihiko Sanada or Chie Satonaka?
So who's the best fighter, Reiji Kido, Lisa Silverman, Ulala Serizawa, Akihiko Sanada or Chie Satonaka?
I always saw it as like a Schrodinger's Cat thing. When they killed Namatame, she died too. When they spared him, she survives.
Yes. They never really explained that well. I assume the strain from being in the TV world is what harmed her, but they never state explicitly what Teddie did to correct that. His reason for developing an ego was to help people and gain friends so maybe it had something to do with that?
I didn't think Izanami was poorly done. There's the summer break when you visit the P3 school where they basically tell you everything about her. The whole game seemed to be a parable of the Izanagi/Izanami mythos and as such, it wouldn't have made any sense for her to be featured predominantly throughout the entire story.
I liked how it seemingly comes out of nowhere if you've been choosing the friendship responses too. That scene was pretty well done and I got a good laugh from it. But the overly dramatic moment fit with her personality so well.
I did the Band social link in my second playthrough to see what it the links that I skipped were like. I honestly can't remember anything about it. At least with the soccer/basketball one of them was super obsessed about balls to be memorable.
I read an interesting theory that hypothesized Teddie is Nanako's shadow. I seriously doubt that's what the designers intended but it seemed like a really neat idea (and atleast offered some sort of plausibility for why he has resurrection powers).
meltingparappa
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we.are.the.armada
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Seriously? Where is this? Even if it's implausible, it'd still be a good read
Now THAT guy should get a spinoff game.
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