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Please devs, copy and paste TR and Uncharted games with this one!!!
my hopes are low tbh!
TR Anniversary era yes, Uncharted FUCK NO
Please devs, copy and paste TR and Uncharted games with this one!!!
my hopes are low tbh!
I think some people are reading things a bit differently because they are upset that no one is really upset over the substance of the news.No, you are missing the forest through the trees on how MS lied to regulators and the public about this and tried painting Sony as the only ones to money hat IPs.
Same dick move than anyone money hating games, thing that others did before them. At least theirs are a not exclusives anymore.They paid to break the contract to stop PlayStation players getting the game. Dick move.
Microsoft haven’t changed. Phil talks out both sides of his mouth.
Marvel’s Spider-Man was never a multiplatform game. Disney approached Sony. Sony approached Insomniac. An Xbox version was never planned.How do we know that’s never happened? Lol
I mean really before the internet who knows what deals have happened?
Tomb raider 2 was planned for sega Saturn.. Sony paid some money and poof no more tomb raider 2 on Saturn.
Wipeout was multiplatform before Sony bought psygnosis.
Spider-Man was multiplatform at one time before Sony took it in house.
I’m sure there are many others.
I think you're right.I think some people are reading things a bit differently because they are upset that no one is really upset over the substance of the news.
No, you are missing the forest through the trees on how MS lied to regulators and the public about this and tried painting Sony as the only ones to money hat IPs.
basically, that’s probably the only reason Deathloop and Ghostwire released on PS5 as planned, because the contract was with Sony so Microsoft couldn’t get it amendedMicrosoft will respect and honor existing contracts and agreements.*
*if we cannot go back and amend them.
Nobody is making a big deal other than those who think people should be more upset, all they are doing is calling out the hypocrisy and double speak. Nothing more.Ehhh i think people are making too big a deal out of it all... both MS and Sony pull this sorta crap.
MS hasn't lied about anything with Bethesda, i don't recall anyone at MS every claiming there were never PS versions of any games planned prior to or after that acquisition. They simply said they will review on case by case basis.. and so far basis has been pump out a few exclusives for Xbox and then probably put out some Multiplat titles that make sense down the road.
WHY AREN'T YOU GUYS MORE MAD!I think some people are reading things a bit differently because they are upset that no one is really upset over the substance of the news.
no gameplay, Greenberg lied again!This summer of game announcements has been great.
So just like MS is doing Xbox + PC?Sony bought Psygnosis in 1993 and Psygnosis kept making multiplatform games until 1997, and Playstation + PC games into the 2000s.
The difference being Xbox got the Zenimax deal through regulators partially by saying they’d not take games away from PlayStation. Now we know they cancelled Starfield, Redfall, Hi-Fi Rush, Indiana Jones and have stated Elder Scrolls VI won’t be on PlayStation.Same dick move than anyone money hating games, thing that others did before them. At least theirs are a not exclusives anymore.
Or they agreed to increase the budget, production values and media funded by MS and that was a more interesting proposition for Disney. Among other things because it could favor the value of the IP. .... OK, no, no, that's only reasonable if we're talking about SONY.They renegotiated and amended the contract. In other words, they paid Disney to drop the PS5 version and signed a new contract that nullified the 1st one.
Literally changing contracts, paying money, to remove PlayStation for a third-party IP.
"Gaming is for everyone."
"Sony makes it harder for us by making it discreet exclusivity deals."
"When everyone plays, we all win."
"Zenimax acquisition was not done to take games away from PlayStation."
You know I am.I think you're right.
It’s as plain as day.Truth.
The difference being Xbox got the Zenimax deal through regulators partially by saying they’d not take games away from PlayStation. Now we know they cancelled Starfield, Redfall, Hi-Fi Rush, Indiana Jones and have stated Elder Scrolls VI won’t be on PlayStation.
They say one thing and do another. This is why the FTC have a problem.
So they will not take away any game from PS as none of those games exists on PS.The difference being Xbox got the Zenimax deal through regulators partially by saying they’d not take games away from PlayStation. Now we know they cancelled Starfield, Redfall, Hi-Fi Rush, Indiana Jones and have stated Elder Scrolls VI won’t be on PlayStation.
They say one thing and do another. This is why the FTC have a problem.
So just like MS is doing Xbox + PC?
My guy disagreeing with you doesn’t mean the end of the fucking world chill out lol.Marvel was shopping for an exclusive suitor, even apporached MS.
Disney/Lucasfilm was shopping this as 3rd party (like Star Wars) and did, but MS "moneyhatted™" the contract after.
Context and nuance are a thing, but I expect that to be ignored by the fantard re re's.
The difference being Xbox got the Zenimax deal through regulators partially by saying they’d not take games away from PlayStation. Now we know they cancelled Starfield, Redfall, Hi-Fi Rush, Indiana Jones and have stated Elder Scrolls VI won’t be on PlayStation.
They say one thing and do another. This is why the FTC have a problem.
I'm sorry, but there is no trademark on "Project EVE", only Stellar Blade.It was never cancelled it is the same game with the same trailers and gameplay you can see on YT they just changed the name.
They couldn't continue doing Sega Saturn ports, since it was discontinued in 1998.So just like MS is doing Xbox + PC?
So microsoft pays to keep indiana jones off playstation and now they are the bad guy again....
I thought everyone said they want microsoft to do money hats...they just paid Disney to make it exclusive.
Was starfield ever announced for playstation? Was Indiana Jones?
PlayStation versions were either being made or were planned to be. They cancelled those versions.None of those games were announced for playstation.
My guy disagreeing with you doesn’t mean the end of the fucking world chill out lol.
I have a feeling the usuals will ignore the first part of your comment lol. I mean, MS are the same guys the turned down a Spider-Man exclusive game developed by them. I feel like they learned their lesson from that given insomniacs Spider-Man’s massive success.
I’m gonna stop feeding this particular troll. You aren’t discussing in good faith. You know as well as we all do that PlayStation versions of those games were in development.So they will not take away any game from PS as none of those games exists on PS.
There is Minecraft Dungeons on PS and Switch. When there was a Sony game on Xbox and Nintendo console?There were Sega and Nintendo games years after they got acquired by sony. This isnt the same.
Sure it's me the troll. /s .Having an early build or just a single asset already developed doesn't make any difference.I’m gonna stop feeding this particular troll. You aren’t discussing in good faith. You know as well as we all do that PlayStation versions of those games were in development.
Yawn. Ignore list.
And they already gave us the best showcase of the summer. Who would have thought they'd top this a few weeks later.Damn another Xbox Showcase but in court!
True, I think people are misinterpreting that statement when it was made but I also feel like the way it was worded that was the intended reason.none of the games you listed were ever on PlayStation, therefore they weren't taken away from PlayStation.
so they technically didn't lie.
they clearly meant games that are already on PlayStation, like Elder Scrolls Online, Skyrim, etc. won't be removed or stopped being supported.
never interpet PR speech in the way that benefits users, and always interpret it in a way that benefits the company
if you don't do that, then you gonna be fooled
PlayStation versions were either being made or were planned to be. They cancelled those versions.
It’s widely known information and Bethesda have at times stated it as such themselves.
Therefore, Microsoft have been dicks, again.Absolutely, they were planned. That's 100% true.
So let that be a lesson.The faux outrage here is…something. Business deals happen, and MS not wanting to tie down a first party studio for years making a multiplatform game isn’t exactly the pinnacle of evil.
The irony isn’t lost that most of the angry folks in this thread are playing a Final Fantasy game today that Sony struck a financial deal with Square to keep off Xbox. Next year’s release will make it three FF games in 4 years. And it’s just business.
I don’t see how this also goes against the ‘case by case’ basis, since we’ve seen MS bring some Bethesda content and games to PlayStation post acquisition.
The same goes for Bethesda etc yet every upcoming game is suspiciously Xbox only….MS lie, Water is wet etcThey already signed a bunch of contracts that are legally binding if they acquire ABK that prevents them from doing that with CoD.
Stellar blade was first announced for Xbox and pc too before sony making it exclusive you know? why is it okay for sony to make a known ip like SFV exclusive while microsoft shouldn't? even though bethesda is microsoft owned company and they help and fund their projects.
Report: Sony Contacted All Major Third Parties for Exclusivity Deals, Offered More Money Than Microsoft
Report: Sony Contacted All Major Third Parties for Exclusivity Deals, Offered More Money Than Microsoft Kinda Funny’s Imran Khan said: There isn’t a major third party out there Sony failed to approach asking what kind of deals they could work out. Some had content, some had games, some had...www.neogaf.com
Look at all the people cheerleading for Sony for the same thing. Sad!
So let that be a lesson.
Going forward, no more Moneyhats™ lingo should be thrown Sony's way. Amazing how it all NOW comes full circle for those that argued until they were blue in the face prior to this.
“case by case basis”
yep Xbox can totally be trusted while behind the scenes they go as far as to renegotiate an existing contract in order to remove the competition
The same goes for Bethesda etc yet every upcoming game is suspiciously Xbox only….MS lie, Water is wet etc
Case by case basis, meaning, every case there's a new game, it's exclusive to Xbox.
Wake me up when I can play SFV, FFVII, Forspoken and FF XVI on Xbox"When everyone plays, we all win."
I love how you say this without acknowledging that Sony does things like this far more often for console exclusivity, timed or otherwise.
Give me a break with the double standard already
Wake me up when I can play SFV, FFVII, Forspoken and FF XVI on Xbox
Same shit everywhere.
People wanted consoles with a better identity ? Well there you have it.
…are you really comparing the circumstances around FFVII to Indiana Jones?
you’re not even trying to be intellectually honest are you?
Which is why regulation steps in when you want to buy the largest publishers in the world and "not stop at them" i.e. consolidate the industry to you and only you.Well, that is the whole reason you would acquire a company, is to be able to do whatever you want with that company makes.