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Phantom Dust |OT| Out of the ashes, into the Dust

Sinatar

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I'm confused about deck building. I'm trying to build a deck and it keeps telling me I can't have more than two schools at a time. Does that mean I can't only make a deck consisting of two of the six card types?

Yup you gotta pick 2, although you can buy an arsenal at the shop that will let you pick 3.
 

Zeta Oni

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I'm stuck in the campaign. The only mission available is against three sisters. Their name starts with a G. Can't seem to get past them.

I know they aren't exactly well liked here (and for good reason), but there's a guide that will give you recommended arsenal set-ups and tactics for every mission over at GameFAQ's.

Just google "Phantom Dust GameFAQ" and it will be the first of two listed on the guide page. Don't want to risk linking cause I'm not sure if they are a banned site or not.
 

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I'm confused about deck building. I'm trying to build a deck and it keeps telling me I can't have more than two schools at a time. Does that mean I can't only make a deck consisting of two of the six card types?

Not the six types (attack, def, etc), but the School. The little symbols, one looks like an eye - that is one School. The plant is another School. The arsenal case you are using will only allow two School types. There are cases that are one or three type.
 
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I'm stuck in the campaign. The only mission available is against three sisters. Their name starts with a G. Can't seem to get past them.

Keep changing up your deck. They can be tough so you need the right deck and a good pull order and strategy. That's what makes the game fun as it can get challenging and you have to rethink strategy.
 

TheSeks

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Oof. Having to do missions to reload the single-player shop is painful.
 

Gestault

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That's so excellent, re: the top free game on Live.

Question: I'm playing on Chapter 4-5, and I'm noticing I'm sometimes taking damage without being attacked (and no sound effects indicating an ability is being used). This has happened several times now to the point where it's what kills me on a mission.

Anyone know what's causing it? I have a feeling it's just an ability I'm not familiar with, but it really seems weird.
 

Zeta Oni

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That's so excellent, re: the top free game on Live.

Question: I'm playing on Chapter 4-5, and I'm noticing I'm sometimes taking damage without being attacked (and no sound effects indicating an ability is being used). This has happened several times now to the point where it's what kills me on a mission.

Anyone know what's causing it? I have a feeling it's just an ability I'm not familiar with, but it really seems weird.

Your not picking up all your cards right?

Cause if you run out of orbs to spawn, you start slowly dying, 1 HP at a time. Not only that, but the enemies can destroy your capsules as well if they have the right arsenal, so that could be it. It's one of the main tactics with an erase build.
 

Gestault

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Your not picking up all your cards right?

Cause if you run out of orbs to spawn, you start slowly dying, 1 HP at a time. Not only that, but the enemies can destroy your capsules as well if they have the right arsenal, so that could be it. It's one of the main tactics with an erase build.

Thanks, that's gotta be it. I've actually been gradually making a new deck from playing more, and it hasn't come up again. That strategy sounds horrifying, lol
 

Zeta Oni

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Thanks, that's gotta be it. I've actually been gradually making a new deck from playing more, and it hasn't come up again. That strategy sounds horrifying, lol

It's one of the best parts of the game imo, as when done right you can win without ever actually attacking.

Very satisfying. Or underhanded, depending on who you ask.
 

Gestault

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It's one of the best parts of the game imo, as when done right you can win without ever actually attacking.

Very satisfying. Or underhanded, depending on who you ask.

Unrelated, but I just got to the "SHIT DUN GOT REAL" part of the single-player
 

TheSeks

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A sequel is all but guaranteed now, right?

No, because the Store is underused. Look at the achievement stats and how many people are playing per day.

Those are the more important metrics to MS than "lol free game, sure I'll try it for five minutes and never buy the sequel" people.
 

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What definitely hurts this game the most is the hub world, where you sometimes have to just randomly go talk to everyone. Back in the original release I literally had to make a checklist and manually check everyone to progress the game. They could have handled that part a lot better.
 

Danis Saur

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Gave the game a chance, after thinking the gameplay looked slow...

Its so engaging and fast. This game is good, even the story is great and not complicated.

A lovely surprise for sure, definitely recommend it.
 

Zeta Oni

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Was playing today and was thinking the game could really use a practice/training room mode to experiment with skills and try out new Arsenals.
 

TheSeks

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It looks like this is what Grounding and Futatusgi-san have been working on?

Grounding Introduces Beat Legion, the Secret Successor to Phantom Dust

Google has a cache.

Futatsugi said:
One of the interesting things is, if you look at how people play mobile phone titles, they typically have short play sessions. So the nice thing about this is that each stage is only a couple of minutes long — we've fit the entire experience into a short time, with a challenge that seems to be pretty well-suited to cell phone users.

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Zeta Oni

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Well you have the bot battles against friends/leaderboard decks at least, don't know how many people know how to access that though

True, but I mean more from an information perspective. Phantom Dust has a lot in common with more traditional fighting games, so I'm thinking info like frame data could be really useful for arsenal building.

It looks like this is what Grounding and Futatusgi-san have been working on?

Grounding Introduces Beat Legion, the Secret Successor to Phantom Dust

Welp. That's dissapointing.
 

Kent

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Was playing today and was thinking the game could really use a practice/training room mode to experiment with skills and try out new Arsenals.

A "try it" mode is definitely something I'd implement in a successor - just straight from the arsenal as you're customizing it, a shortcut to load into a map with the arsenal as-is, with pause menu options for editing it further, restarting and changing maps.

It'd also be helpful for players that just want to see how a specific skill feels in use, because that doesn't always come across in the card for it, or the accompanying video.
 

Zeta Oni

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A "try it" mode is definitely something I'd implement in a successor - just straight from the arsenal as you're customizing it, a shortcut to load into a map with the arsenal as-is, with pause menu options for editing it further, restarting and changing maps.

It'd also be helpful for players that just want to see how a specific skill feels in use, because that doesn't always come across in the card for it, or the accompanying video.

Bar the ability to switch maps, what you described is the exact way they did it in Soul Sacrifice Delta, and would be perfect for PD.

The more and more I play, the more I feel that game was definitely made by fans of this title.

Thanks for sharing. I would love if they released the pieces in high res of that last collage.

Yeah, I'm just glad we got some good achievement art rather than the normal drab offerings.
 

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Are there strong feelings out there on etiquitte for waiting on a full 4-person room vs starting after ~30 seconds or so with 2-3 people? I was hosting, and I felt bad starting with fewer, but I also could tell people were impatient.
 

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One thing I am getting sick of is the friends sitting in FFA lobbies and teaming up on me (by starting it as soon as I join). I make sure to check if they are friends and they always are.

Other than that, my 25 hours played has still been great!
 

Zeta Oni

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One thing I am getting sick of is the friends sitting in FFA lobbies and teaming up on me (by starting it as soon as I join). I make sure to check if they are friends and they always are.

Other than that, my 25 hours played has still been great!

Yup, the other thing I'm seeing is Tag Team lobbies where they are all in cahoots and your team mate either idles, jumps off the map repeatedly, or just runs up to the enemy.

Very annoying, and that's before getting into how the game handles quitting. Someone rage quits while I'm kicking ass and its a draw?

Are there strong feelings out there on etiquitte for waiting on a full 4-person room vs starting after ~30 seconds or so with 2-3 people? I was hosting, and I felt bad starting with fewer, but I also could tell people were impatient.

For tag team, I only start for a full lobby, while for Battle Royale I wait for at least 3, give it a minute, then start.

Seems to work best.
 

wwm0nkey

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Sorry for the double post but the game was just updated. You can now set custom resolutions! Mine is rendering at 4k downsampled to 1080p! Also fullscreen is now an option too.

Anyone notice anything else different? Near and Far cameras were a thing in MP right? I never checked those options yet.
 

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Sorry for the double post but the game was just updated. You can now set custom resolutions! Mine is rendering at 4k downsampled to 1080p! Also fullscreen is now an option too.

Anyone notice anything else different? Near and Far cameras were a thing in MP right? I never checked those options yet.

GREAT! So it downsamples natively? I think my laptop (GTX 970M) could get it to 1440p but the display is 1080p only.
 

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What's the patch do?

Update 1.1 Notes

Feature Additions:

  • Windows 10 Keyboard/Mouse Remapping and Customization – Added the ability to customize the keyboard and mouse controls
  • Windows 10 Display Options – A number of display customizations were added
  • Additional Resolution Options
  • Full Screen Toggle in Menu (Alt + Enter still works as well)
  • V-sync
  • Loading Screen Hold – Gives the option to delay proceeding from the loading screen into gameplay on button press. This allows players to see the tips and text on loading screens
  • Ping Gauge – An indicator in multiplayer lobbies showing the latency of each player
  • High Resolution Skill Previews – Skill previews in Arsenal edit mode are higher resolution

Fixes:

  • Fixed a bug on PC where the title fails to launch when the default audio playback device is set to sample above 48,000hz
  • Fixed a UI bug where ”Gravity Mine" duration is not shown in its description text
  • Fixed a multiplayer bug where a user cannot create a new game session as prompted after failing to join a lobby via Quick Match
  • Fixed a UI bug where the title appears to crash to the Xbox Home screen when launching the title with no signed in user and dismissing the sign-in prompts
  • Fixed a Scenario Mode bug where skipping the ”And Now to the Future" mission did not show final cinematics or credits
  • Fixed a multiplayer matchmaking bug where the title crashes to the Xbox Home screen following a local network disconnect while searching for an online match
  • Fixed a controller bug where the title stops responding to input after controller disconnect while no user is signed in
  • Fixed a multiplayer matchmaking bug where users fail to join a lobby through OptiMatch when the session list is left open and the number of users in that lobby changes
  • Fixed a multiplayer bug where players in a suspended state remain in the lobby after a game session ends which prevents new players from joining
  • Fixed a multiplayer matchmaking bug where lobbies set to Private become public after one person joins
  • Additional bug fixes

http://phantomdusted.com/phantom-dust-update/
 

wwm0nkey

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Feature Additions:
  • Windows 10 Keyboard/Mouse Remapping and Customization – Added the ability to customize the keyboard and mouse controls
  • Windows 10 Display Options – A number of display customizations were added
  • Additional Resolution Options
  • Full Screen Toggle in Menu (Alt + Enter still works as well)
  • V-sync
  • Loading Screen Hold – Gives the option to delay proceeding from the loading screen into gameplay on button press. This allows players to see the tips and text on loading screens
  • Ping Gauge – An indicator in multiplayer lobbies showing the latency of each player
  • High Resolution Skill Previews – Skill previews in Arsenal edit mode are higher resolution

Fixes:
  • Audio: Crash – On PC the title fails to launch when default audio playback device is set to sample above 48,000hz
  • UI: Skill - "Gravity Mine" duration is not shown in description text
  • Multiplayer: Matchmaking: Lobby - User cannot create a new game session as prompted after failing to join a lobby via Quick Match
  • UI: Xbox Live: Profile - Title appears to crash to the Xbox Home screen when launching the title with no signed in user and dismissing the sign-in prompts
  • Single Player: Quests: Skip/win - Skipping "And Now to the Future" does not show final cinematics or credits
  • Multiplayer: Matchmaking: Crash - Title crashes to home console following a local network disconnect whilst searching for an online match
  • UI: Controls: Soft-lock - Title stops responding to input after controller disconnect while no user is signed in
  • Multiplayer: Matchmaking: Users fail to join a lobby through OptiMatch when the session list is left open and the number of users in that lobby changes
  • Multiplayer: Network: Players in a suspended state remain in the lobby after a game session ends which prevent new players from joining
  • Multiplayer: Matchmaking: Lobby - Private lobbies become public when one person joins
  • Additional bug fixes
Awesome! This was a big one for me.

Really good list of changes too, wonder what else we might get
 

malfcn

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Nice to see the support continue. They didn't just dump it and leave. Hopefully it gets enough attention for them to keep things going.