HeWhoWalks
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Nothing. That was my pointWhat happened to Destiny on Xbox now? I don't play so I don't know.
Nothing. That was my pointWhat happened to Destiny on Xbox now? I don't play so I don't know.
So it’s all about the CoD and Candy Crush money?
Maybe some WoW money too but I don’t know how much they rake in each month anymore.
The point is growing the division and raking in 1.5 - 2 bn USD extra profit every year.
In case you missed it.
If Sony makes a revenue of x out of CoD, MS will make a minimum of 2.33x since they get the other 70% of the revenue.That’s it? Because as thing stand PlayStation is making over a billion profit on Call of Duty.
Crazy that MS is now probably going to be one of the biggest third party publishers on PlayStation platforms.
So if its 720p on Switch means it has to be 720p on Series X / PS5?
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If Sony makes a revenue of x out of CoD, MS will make a minimum of 2.33x since they get the other 70% of the revenue.
So yeah that’s it but it’s quite a lot of money.
(And the other games will be exclusive going forward most likely)
It will 100% last 10 years. It's been top dog for the last 16 year's.COD wont last 10 more years. But there is a ton of Activision and Blizzard IPs that could be huge again. I just hope MS tries some of them and not just throw them away like they did with RARE ip.
yeah buts its changed ALOT and its moved away from the World War X fanbase to the ADHD masses. I doubt once they leave that it will be a thing anymore... plus MS "TED FROM ACCOUNTING" games studio approach.It will 100% last 10 years. It's been top dog for the last 16 year's.
Do you really think Sony will make more money out of CoD than MS? Because lmao if so.*Profit for Sony.
MS gets more revenue, it also has to cover the production costs. Oh and gamepass...
Do you really think Sony will make more money out of CoD than MS? Because lmao if so.
Check the yearly financial report of ABK and see how much revenue they get from Sony. You can then estimate how much revenue Sony gets from ABK since it’s based on platform fees.
Then look at the total revenue of the Activistion part of ABK and the cost structure. It’s all in the report.
Check also how much of ABK’s revenue comes from game sales versus MTX.If COD is on Gamepass.... and MS don't keep putting GP prices up as they have been, then yeah, Sony will 100% make more profit.
MS track record speaks for itself.
If Sony makes a revenue of x out of CoD, MS will make a minimum of 2.33x since they get the other 70% of the revenue.
So yeah that’s it but it’s quite a lot of money.
(And the other games will be exclusive going forward most likely)
That's very true. Warzone was the transition from arcade shooter fans to the tiktok brigade with a 10 second attention span.yeah buts its changed ALOT and its moved away from the World War X fanbase to the ADHD masses. I doubt once they leave that it will be a thing anymore... plus MS "TED FROM ACCOUNTING" games studio approach.
But we know what those costs are since they are in the same ABK report nobody bothers to check.That’s profit on Sony’s side, not revenue. MS will be the one with the development and marketing cost burden. That’s how it works.
Because that decision was made before Microsoft acquired it.Minecraft has stayed multi plat. Why wouldn’t COD?
But we know what those costs are since they are in the same ABK report nobody bothers to check.
And we also know the total profit of the Activision part of ABK and it’s clearly more than what Sony is making out of the entirety of ABK based on a 30% platform fee.
Again all the data is in the yearly report.
They don’t though, the leaked document says 1.5bn in spendings on the SIE platforms worldwide. Which by the way matches the share of ABK revenue coming from Sony over the same period.I don’t know what you mean. I was saying Sony was making over a billion in profit from COD sales and MTX. That’s it.
ABK mad 1.5 last year and over 2 the year prior right? Profit, not revenue.
It doesn’t matter if it makes more profit, it’s basically free money on Sony’s side while ABK has to bake the cake with all the costs and risk associated.
Check also how much of ABK’s revenue comes from game sales versus MTX.
You clearly don’t know any numbers related to what you’re talking about.
I'm saving Xbox would build from Series S and then port over to everything else. Series S is their highest selling console unless they just decide to go 3rd party.What platforms does it currently ship on?
LMAO i forgot about that but i thought it would be a Cloud solution for Switch?If its coming to the switch, the S is the least of your concerns.
That’s still a lot of years to earn back the money from the acquisition. Especially if there is some bad blood from the whole thing so sales are dropping. Plus Gamepass.Always about the money. Activision earned an estimated 6+ billion in profits in 2023 alone.
Going forward all Activision profits will be counted towards MS / Xbox gaming division.
I’ll try one last time:But those MTX are on PS too with a far larger install base and still with MS footing the costs.
So it's the base game sales that make the difference.
Then why not release everything on PS (which honestly I wouldn't be opposed to just like I wish PS released everything on PC day one)Why wouldn’t they want to do that? They make millions/billions selling software on the other platforms and lose millions/billions on making hardware.
Seems like no brainer to me.
At this point they are so big that I am wondering if they will de-prioritize exclusivity. Could honestly agree with both pros and cons.Then why not release everything on PS (which honestly I wouldn't be opposed to just like I wish PS released everything on PC day one)
People would still buy the hardware they prefer
I wish they would do it more. It’s a shame Sony doesn’tThen why not release everything on PS (which honestly I wouldn't be opposed to just like I wish PS released everything on PC day one)
People would still buy the hardware they prefer
Absolutely. But that goes for everybody else too so why wouldn’t everyone sell everything everywhere? Why is Spider-Man 2 PS5 exclusive? Why isn’t it on Xbox too? Why isn’t it on PC? Why isn’t Starfield on PS5? Because the normal thing for a platform holder is to want more people to buy their console and be locked in to their ecosystem. And I think that’s the case here as well but they don’t want to admit this right now.Why wouldn’t they want to do that? They make millions/billions selling software on the other platforms and lose millions/billions on making hardware.
Seems like no brainer to me.
Like SM2 is going to sell great as is but imagine their sales if it launched on PC at the same timeAbsolutely. But that goes for everybody else too so why wouldn’t everyone sell everything everywhere? Why is Spider-Man 2 PS5 exclusive? Why isn’t it on Xbox too? Why isn’t it on PC? Why isn’t Starfield on PS5? Because the normal thing for a platform holder is to want more people to buy their console and be locked in to their ecosystem. And I think that’s the case here as well but they don’t want to admit this right now.
No. I didn’t say that. They can go without cod then and spend their 70 bucks on fair game or concord instead.Let's think, Sherly: do you really think who people who have a Playstation will change the platform they have play for years just to save 70 bucks?
Well no shit it was literally part of the deal for 10 years. What do you expect him to say.., “ ohh we can’t right now .. but just you wait!!!”
But the bigger point is Sony won’t get any exclusive cod deal either like they always do.
That’s still a lot of years to earn back the money from the acquisition. Especially if there is some bad blood from the whole thing so sales are dropping. Plus Gamepass.
Yeah it would break all the records.Like SM2 is going to sell great as is but imagine their sales if it launched on PC at the same time
I am sure they have the internal numbers but really would love to know how many they would sell to double dippers vs day one on PC in terms of total numbersYeah it would break all the records.
But Sony is (annoyingly) clever. They know people like me with a PS5 + a $5K PC is going to buy the game on PS5 first, then talk about it and hype it up so more people buy the game and a console, then they know I’ll buy it on PC a couple years later to get some extra frames and pixels, then talk about that and hype that up so more people buy it. money money money
I'm saving Xbox would build from Series S and then port over to everything else. Series S is their highest selling console unless they just decide to go 3rd party.
How much money did Activision make each year on console sales and on third party software fees?“We have no goal of somehow using Call of Duty to get you to buy an Xbox console.”
Sounds like you wasted your money Phil. What’s the point then?
We might start to see some synergy in strategy as time goes on, but I doubt Sony will go straight to launching on both PS5 and PC without first testing the waters with whatever Bungie is working on. MS was in the PC realm earlier, had the smaller install base, has a different subscription strategy that kind of requires faster growth than Sony's does because of day 1, and of course has better financial security to survive had it been a disaster on console sales. Less risk and more incentive. But if Sony gets enough data to feel confident that they won't harm their PSN business, they may decide its time to cast the wider net too.I wish they would do it more. It’s a shame Sony doesn’t
COD wont last 10 more years. But there is a ton of Activision and Blizzard IPs that could be huge again. I just hope MS tries some of them and not just throw them away like they did with RARE ip.
This thread is full of people who didn't watch the clip. He specifically says that performance may be different based on console, but that there will be no exclusive skins/maps/events/etc
Has Sony even sent MS the PS5 dev kits yet?
All new games from ABK in the future will be on GP & Sony funs will have same deal......charging 70$ for every new game. Give Xbox funs free content & charge competition for profit. Brilliant plan
I don't get why Microsoft would buy Activision-Blizzard if they don't want to use Call of Duty and their other games as an incentive for people to buy an Xbox over a PlayStation. If it were the other way round and Sony owned this company then I am sure they would be doing everything in their power to make the Xbox versions of the games the least appealing version.
I have no interest in playing Call of Duty any more, by the way, and haven't for the past 8 or 9 years.
I'm basing my opinion on what Phil said. He said "parity" for all consoles. Series S is his most successful console so why would he not base the next COD around the specs of Series S?The next game (and probably the one next year as well) is also shipping on PS4/XBO.
Series S is a generational leap compared to the games lower target spec.
I'm basing my opinion on what Phil said. He said "parity" for all consoles. Series S is his most successful console so why would he not base the next COD around the specs of Series S?
How much money did Activision make each year on console sales and on third party software fees?
Yeah that would be fun, I think it would be a gigantic boost to be on PC day 1 when the hype is the most intense.I am sure they have the internal numbers but really would love to know how many they would sell to double dippers vs day one on PC in terms of total numbers
I've been a corporate controller through 4 company purchases and my experience is.. It's rough when the entire company drops 2 rungs down the ladder, the good people who can go elsewhere; usually do. The not so good people who can't, are typically who remain behind.Sure Microsoft can hire those types of people at the studios, but those sorts probably don't want to be under the approval or corporate culture policies of Xbox's upper level management in the first place.