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Phil Spencer expect PS4 price cut this holiday in US
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Haha...this is like watching water spiral down the drain.
And I don't think anyone is really hating on Phil, just laughing at the snippet.
I'm in a rather bad mood currently, think you can tell.
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I disagree. I think Sony is in an advantageous position because they have all the momentum. MS will do very well though, and they deserve to because they've made great headway and have a wonderful game lineup this holiday.
Chobel
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:lol
I also hate when people answer questions in interviews. They should keep their noise hole shut.
Nobody said exclusives don't sell. We're saying exclusives don't sell consoles the way you think they do. What console won NPD that month?
Depends on if you like shooters or not.
Someone like me who only casually plays them will only buy one (for me it'll probably be Star Wars, because Star Wars.)
MS on the other hand doesn't have anything like Dragon Quest Heroes or Tales of Zestiria to cater to the people who like Japanese games more.
Last gen the JRPG tables were flip-flopped towards the beginning with stuff like Vesperia and Blue Dragon.
Let's face it, the console market is in great shape, both consoles are outselling they're predecessors and it's good that Sony are really making movements with the PS4 and are actually really profiting from it due to their financial status currently.
Although, I don't think the kid at Christmas cares about console sales trends WW before making his choice on what he wants to unwrap in the morning.
TheBaldEmperor
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"Head on down to GameStop! You'll be glad you came!"
Chobel
Member
Do we know the sales of Gears UE (US)? It's charted lower than Minecraft so sales probably are not that good.
It was #3 in 5 days BTW.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
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This could be a game changer. Can't wait for the digital foundry hand job analysis.
I think you can enjoy Forza, Gigantic, Fable Legends and maybe even Rise of the Tomb Raider without being way into shooters. Further on Xbox One is clearly not the place to be if you like JRPG's and that's perfectly fine by me.
Bolivar687
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If Sony doesn't do $100, they'd be better off adding value with bundles instead of a $50 drop, since $350 seems more about getting fence-sitters rather than penetrating the next tier of the mass market. Hence why NPD went back to normal once the shopping season ended.
Even so, I think PGW is too late for them to announce a cut. I recall retail posters last year saying they expected both machines to sell out regardless, at the very least we both know they're going to sell gangbusters in November and December anyway. That's why I think the best time is before Fall, so you can get people buying the early September and October games, in addition to the huge November giants. The name of the game seems to me to be getting people in the door for as many holidays as possible throughout the span of the life cycle.
Even so, I think PGW is too late for them to announce a cut. I recall retail posters last year saying they expected both machines to sell out regardless, at the very least we both know they're going to sell gangbusters in November and December anyway. That's why I think the best time is before Fall, so you can get people buying the early September and October games, in addition to the huge November giants. The name of the game seems to me to be getting people in the door for as many holidays as possible throughout the span of the life cycle.
Grover Cleveland
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Nothing Phil Spencer says about the future plans of his competitors should ever be given an ounce of credence.
But he's probably right on this one. I think the market's bought about all of the $400 unbundled PS4s they're gonna buy.
But he's probably right on this one. I think the market's bought about all of the $400 unbundled PS4s they're gonna buy.
FranXico
Member
To be fair, he is making an educated guess. Same as anyone with some common sense would. I don't know the numbers, but PS4 sales have kind of slowed down since last year, haven't they?
No, it's up yoy.
RichiRamjag
Member
Seems like some folks are getting defensive over nothing. The majority of what has been said are jabs at there being multiple threads over random shit he's said. No one has really hated on the guy. Victim complex in full effect here.
Tbh, it is quite annoying. I stay away from the Xbox Reddit because of it. That said, folks could just ignore the thread.
Tbh, it is quite annoying. I stay away from the Xbox Reddit because of it. That said, folks could just ignore the thread.
BumblebeeCody
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No. Let 'em squabble.
Grimgrillz
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See the thing is this wouldn't be so hypocritical if Phil previously didn't say about Patcher's XBO speculation.
But yet since this point Phil has been talking about
.How SCE structure their third party deals,
.The prices SCE pays for third party and also
.SCE plans are for price drops,
Just to name a few. All while being in the same position as Patcher, not knowing anything about the company because he does not work there and has no involvement with their plans despite being in the same industry.
Phil Spencer seems preoccupied with PS4. And his defenders talk about "Well he was asked a question" As if he doesn't have the right to say "I don't know what Sony's plans are" which is the obvious truth. PS4 execs get asked the same shit by the same journalists but you haven't seen Boyles or Yoshida mention Phil or his platform for some time. They are focused on their company and I don't understand why Phil gushes PS every chance he gets. I think it's weird. He keeps talking about PS but the conversation is always one way.
He should take the hint. If he has the best Holiday lineup of all time or whatever the marketing slogan is, why doesn't he focus on that.
In my honest opinion he lacks confidence in his own platform. The support for that platform and that platforms portfolio. Irrespective of what his marketing campaign slogan is.
But yet since this point Phil has been talking about
.How SCE structure their third party deals,
.The prices SCE pays for third party and also
.SCE plans are for price drops,
Just to name a few. All while being in the same position as Patcher, not knowing anything about the company because he does not work there and has no involvement with their plans despite being in the same industry.
Phil Spencer seems preoccupied with PS4. And his defenders talk about "Well he was asked a question" As if he doesn't have the right to say "I don't know what Sony's plans are" which is the obvious truth. PS4 execs get asked the same shit by the same journalists but you haven't seen Boyles or Yoshida mention Phil or his platform for some time. They are focused on their company and I don't understand why Phil gushes PS every chance he gets. I think it's weird. He keeps talking about PS but the conversation is always one way.
He should take the hint. If he has the best Holiday lineup of all time or whatever the marketing slogan is, why doesn't he focus on that.
In my honest opinion he lacks confidence in his own platform. The support for that platform and that platforms portfolio. Irrespective of what his marketing campaign slogan is.
To be fair, it will back down YOY this september... unless it sell >480k this month... and i doubt it.
But should back up in November, maybe in October if it is the price drop month.
Price drop or now, I say they have very little
zero
IMO, even if PS4 doesn't have a price drop, with the bundles they would have at $399 they would likely win out the rest of this year except for probably Oct.
If they don't drop the price this year (and I'll stand by my prediction they won't), I do think they will drop it next year and that'll be it.
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See the thing is Phil Once said about Patcher
But yet since this point Phil has been talking about
.How SCE structure their third party deals,
.The prices SCE pays for third party and also
.SCE plans are for price drops,
Just to name a few. All while being in the same position as Patcher, not knowing anything about the company because he does not work there and has no involvement with their plans despite being in the same industry.
Phil Spencer seems preoccupied with PS4. And his defenders talk about "Well he was asked a question" As if he doesn't have the right to say "I don't know what Sony's plans are" which is the obvious truth. PS4 execs get asked the same shit by the same journalists but you haven't seen Boyles or Yoshida mention Phil or his platform for some time. They are focused on their company and I don't understand why Phil gushes PS every chance he gets. I think it's weird. He keeps talking about PS but the conversation is always one way.
He should take the hint. If he has the best Holiday lineup of all time or whatever the marketing slogan is, why doesn't he focus on that.
In my honest opinion he lacks confidence in his own platform. The support for that platform and that platforms portfolio. Irrespective of what his marketing campaign slogan is.
Ok. So you do think Phil just wanders around muttering things about the PS4...
I can't 🙎
See the thing is this wouldn't be so hypocritical if Phil previously didn't say about Patcher's XBO speculation.
But yet since this point Phil has been talking about
.How SCE structure their third party deals,
.The prices SCE pays for third party and also
.SCE plans are for price drops,
Just to name a few. All while being in the same position as Patcher, not knowing anything about the company because he does not work there and has no involvement with their plans despite being in the same industry.
Phil Spencer seems preoccupied with PS4. And his defenders talk about "Well he was asked a question" As if he doesn't have the right to say "I don't know what Sony's plans are" which is the obvious truth. PS4 execs get asked the same shit by the same journalists but you haven't seen Boyles or Yoshida mention Phil or his platform for some time. They are focused on their company and I don't understand why Phil gushes PS every chance he gets. I think it's weird. He keeps talking about PS but the conversation is always one way.
He should take the hint. If he has the best Holiday lineup of all time or whatever the marketing slogan is, why doesn't he focus on that.
In my honest opinion he lacks confidence in his own platform. The support for that platform and that platforms portfolio. Irrespective of what his marketing campaign slogan is.
I agree. Usually these execs dodge those kinds of questions and say things like "I don't know what they have planned but I'm sure it's good". Phil Spencer used to do that but lately, he's been talking more about the PS4. I don't think this price drop comment is that big of a deal but the third party comments were pretty embarrassing.
EASTC0AST_GH05T
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Philuminati
He has his sources
Imperfected
Member
First Phil Spencer announced that PlayStation has a console exclusivity deal for FFXIV, and now he's announcing they're going to have a holiday price-cut?
Phil, are you... are you trying to build up a resume to apply for the Sony PlayStation PR position?
Phil, are you... are you trying to build up a resume to apply for the Sony PlayStation PR position?
Maybe Tearaway Unfolded + PS4 FW 3.0 beta has something to do with it.
The Mad Draklor
Member
Yeah, I've been noticing that Phil's language has recently been more combative and a bit sleazy. I know, PR is not easy when your competitor is crushing your product worldwide. However, there were several other ways he could have taken without coming off as a moron.
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Probably, lol. Oh Etta...
Emperor Bohe
Member
all i care about is a damn price cut in Canada
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Can he change it though?
Nice! Now use Quantum Break plz
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Don't worry, we'll get a price raise again thanks to the dollar.
BabyFaceKillah
Member
Thread went in the expected direction. Ha!
Aceofspades
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Phil next tweet:
We are expecting the sales gap between X1 and PS4 to increase to 20m by years end.
We are expecting the sales gap between X1 and PS4 to increase to 20m by years end.
DangerMouse
Member
LOL
Newtype-001
Member
Can he change it though?
Now its Phil time.
Mr Moose
Member
They've got that shitty Assassin's Creed bundle, too. (Well, not exactly shitty... But, yeah, I've kinda lost interest in that series though I will get the game if it turns out to be good and have decent performance).
AHAHA.
slavesnyder
Member
He should get a GAF account. In NPD threats his comment would be common sense. In an interview with IGN... Not so much.
Are you ok? You know much of the success of the Xbox last holiday were their insane bundles.
But I honestly suggest that you take a deep sigh. You shouldn't get this upset.
See the thing is this wouldn't be so hypocritical if Phil previously didn't say about Patcher's XBO speculation.
But yet since this point Phil has been talking about
.How SCE structure their third party deals,
.The prices SCE pays for third party and also
.SCE plans are for price drops,
Just to name a few. All while being in the same position as Patcher, not knowing anything about the company because he does not work there and has no involvement with their plans despite being in the same industry.
Phil Spencer seems preoccupied with PS4. And his defenders talk about "Well he was asked a question" As if he doesn't have the right to say "I don't know what Sony's plans are" which is the obvious truth. PS4 execs get asked the same shit by the same journalists but you haven't seen Boyles or Yoshida mention Phil or his platform for some time. They are focused on their company and I don't understand why Phil gushes PS every chance he gets. I think it's weird. He keeps talking about PS but the conversation is always one way.
He should take the hint. If he has the best Holiday lineup of all time or whatever the marketing slogan is, why doesn't he focus on that.
In my honest opinion he lacks confidence in his own platform. The support for that platform and that platforms portfolio. Irrespective of what his marketing campaign slogan is.
You think answering this simple question with an educated guess is a sign of a lack of confidence? You think it shows he's preoccupied with Sony?
A guy can do an entire interview about Xbox, and answer 2 questions about a competitor... And the entire world will focus on those two answers AND deduce that he's preoccupied
Man, people here sure like to stretch... Such an in depth psychological evaluation over a truly benign comment
Emperor Bohe
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fml please canadian federal government give us our dolllas back son