Ghost Slayer
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Can't blame us, most conferences kinda disappointed compare to last year so we need something to entertain instead lol
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Phil Spencer: "Not a fan of marketing deals with exclusive content"
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Can't blame us, most conferences kinda disappointed compare to last year so we need something to entertain instead lol
VincentMatts
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sony doesnt seem to care. Its all fine and dandy that hes not a fan but in the meantime, xbox users get fucked over everytime. Its time he starts wearing his big boy pants and stops being mr nice guy
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Lol I guess so! Also, did I say fullest? I meant dullest. Dull as fuck!
Saw the examples after I made the post. But like others have said, Phil is in no position to speak considering the conference for Xbox was basically full of timed exclusives.
Pot calling the kettle black clearly.
ElBoxyBrown
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Kinect and Judgment? LOL
MrS
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Not as bad as FIFA Legends being exclusive to Xbox for 4 years. Phil is being very hypocritical here.
I agree on content for simultaneous releases ie Destiny.
Timed exclusivity makes sense for smaller developers that need help to lift off. Sony does this in spades too,dont make me get a list out.
I don't however agree games like Tomb Raider, Dead Rising or Street Fighter (established multiplatform games) should ever get exclusivity of any kind. Those are bullshit cash grabs in my eyes.
Timed exclusivity makes sense for smaller developers that need help to lift off. Sony does this in spades too,dont make me get a list out.
I don't however agree games like Tomb Raider, Dead Rising or Street Fighter (established multiplatform games) should ever get exclusivity of any kind. Those are bullshit cash grabs in my eyes.
Microsoft must really suck at making deals then when at the first reveal the developers pretended to play on PS4s.
Good catch
Theres definitely some hypocrisy that comes standard with PR here though, some of Microsoft will pretend BC is the greatest thing ever made, some of Sony will pretend BC is just a useless feature. It's all part of the bullshit
No, it reeks of PR. They can't get the deal so speak badly of it to hopefully at least make it look bad on Sony. Hope people forget when you do it or when you did it (and for past tense say you now changed your mind).
No, we all understood what was said. We were just calling Phil out for his blatant hypocrisy. He advocates taking the high road, detests console wars, and third party deals, yet...
He wears a shirt saying "6>4", and claims Pro is competing with XB1S, and announces timed exclusivity on almost 20 games during their conference.
What he says he's about, and what he actually says and does completely contradict each other. He comes off as a disingenuous fanboy, with a fancy title.
30yearsofhurt
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Ghost Slayer
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Oh shit, Xbox division must have big budget to pay a game for 2nd time
YES. I know. I'm simply stating what they said. They never said 42 games would be exclusive.
Nightengale
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2013's Xbox had money to burn.
Always-honest
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Ah, okay.
Ghost Slayer
Member
Not really a big deal for me, GT did this with some brand also. This is like promoting new cars?
Well, of course.
But the PC port, or more commonly the PS4 port isn't coming day and date because they payed for it's timed exclusivity. To me it's the same principle as exclusive content in a game only bigger and temporary.
almostjuliuscaesar
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Basically what everyone seems to notice. How did he make that quote while signing deals for launch window exclusivity?
MetalliCabombination
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This man and his console launch exclusives dont stop.
Hed rather do timed exclusivity for entire games than do it for some minor items.
Hed rather do timed exclusivity for entire games than do it for some minor items.
Waffles DaLove Sauce
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I think Phil is speaking from a personal stand point. Does Phil have enough clout to say "I don't agree with this so no more"? There obviously is more involved with these exclusive content deals then Phil shaking hands and making it so.
SmokedMeat
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Phil says one thing, while history reveals the other. It wasn't long ago that they locked Rise of the Tomb down for a year. They nabbed Titanfall. They had CoD DLC on Xbox first for an entire generation.
Now that the shoe is on the other foot it's a different story. Microsoft is getting their ass beat so they try and sing a different tune because they don't have the leverage they did before.
Now that the shoe is on the other foot it's a different story. Microsoft is getting their ass beat so they try and sing a different tune because they don't have the leverage they did before.
Doctoglethorpe
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Somebody help this guy, hes spinning so much he's gonna pass out.
Nightengale
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He's the head of the entire MS gaming business decision.
I don't think the coffers were shut, Nadella has no interest in platforms/software that people don't subscribe to, GaaS like or push consumers to other Microsoft services. Nadella wants big returns on a few tent poles, that's it.
Haha -- it's obvious that reps/PR simply play to the strengths their company and/or console has during a certain point in time and will go the opposite if they lose it. Seeing the change and hypocrisy is amusing but getting literally upset about it is pointless as this is how things will continue to be.
Dr. Black Jack
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Looooooooool
Stay salty MS.
Stay salty MS.
FIREKNIGHT2029
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LMAO!
launch exclusives though
Impeccable
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Probably not too many game makers lining up to give exclusive to second place. This is a PR deflection of that.
VincentMatts
Member
To be fair, they were getting their asses kicked even when they had Tomb raider and Titanfall1 as exclusives.
Im ok with this, as long as both parties are doing it. If MS wanna do it, fine do it. But that means Sony should do it too. Personally, i have both consoles and ill always buy both, so im never gonna miss out on anything. If exclusive deals gets me to play the game on their console, theyve done their job. Ultimately, its to get you to buy in. And if MS just sit back, theyll get crushed even more and thats not any better.
If i were him, i would just get more exclusives. I dont care if gamers dont like it. Its a business, not a friendship.
PhantomThief
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You can buy the second one which is awesome!
TheGameshark
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I agree but Phil is the last person that should be saying this. You literally payed for a bunch of games to be timed exclusive to your platform.
LiquidSolid
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You've got to love Microsoft whining about something THEY started doing first last gen, all while still having done it numerous times this gen. If they were in the position Sony were in, they'd be even worse with this shit and you'd never hear a peep out of them.
ScientificPizza
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He said he's not a fan of it, not that he's never done it. It was refreshing to see no exclusive content on the Microsoft stage. That shit sucks, so hopefully this really means Microsoft are pulling away from it all together
Nightengale
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Kagari stated that the deal was made in the months of TR's E3 reveal in 2014. Mattrick left in 2013.
However, let's assume Mattrick made the deal, for entertainment's sake. The one who decided to lie to consumers about the game's type of exclusivity was Phil.
Mechanized
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An easy thing to say when you're not top dog. During the 360 era Microsoft fucking loved exclusivity.
Even with that the deal didn't include exclusive content...
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