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Pokémon Sun Version/Moon Version Review Thread
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Coming right after gen 5? Nah I can't agree with that at all lol. I respect your opinion though.
and ORAS is indeed much better than XY 
Kind of like I state above, it's more of the technical side of how the region ran that ruins my opinion of it. The other side that Kalos is also guilty of is just how generic it felt (at least prior to Platinum sprucing the whole place up). Most of the region felt very by the numbers, as though they were just filling out the checkboxes to make Pokemon Region 4 rather than give it any unique identity.
While admittedly all the surfing got tiring after a while, I always remember Hoenn for its remarkably diverse, but still distinctly tropical setting. Unova may have been a pretty straight line to the end, but the sprawling urban setting tickled my fancy. Sinnoh (and Kalos) just felt like they were trying to repackage Kanto/Johto again. Thankfully in Platinum, Sinnoh got a bit of a facelift and became a somewhat colder climate, and that ultimately saves it in my book.
Ultimately that's why I'm looking forward to Alola. From the NPCs to the environment itself, it seems like it has its own identity.
DarkChronic
Member
I find it interesting that there are few notes on the competitive multiplayer. Not that I blame reviewers since it usually takes months to figure out what's broken and what really works competitively. But in most multiplayer games reviewers usually try to get a feel on how balanced the multiplayer is.
Well, we'll figure that out along the way. The main singleplayer adventure sounds great with lots of interesting features and challenges, which is what I wanted reassurance on after the disappointment of XY.
Well, we'll figure that out along the way. The main singleplayer adventure sounds great with lots of interesting features and challenges, which is what I wanted reassurance on after the disappointment of XY.
The problem is that for all the good it did, its faults drag it way the hell down. And since it didn't get an updated version, it's stuck with those. A lot of the games people praise as being excellent are actually revised versions of a gen (Platinum, BW2). Sun & Moon look like they're some of the strongest first entries to a generation in a long time. Though I do think the lack of a postgame is going to hurt people's impressions of the games.
As an aside, I still can't believe how badly they dropped the ball with Team Flare, Lysandre, and Diantha. Those are things I don't even expect much out of in a pokemon game and they still messed up bad.
with how Pokemon's multiplayer community is, it makes little sense for a reviewer to throw out a hot take opinion that will absolutely be wrong probably within a week's time, especially when only people who are knowledgeable about Pokemon's competitive scene will even care about said opinion. it's moot to even pay lip service to it; just mention some of the mechanic changes and keep it pushing.
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
Gamexplain's review mentioned there's slowdown in the 2 on 2 battles on regular 3DS but not on N3DS
Neoleo2143
Member
The Underground's Mining Minigame was pretty cool.
Worst...region?
Hoenn is incredibly diverse, with its many colorful beaches to islands to stormy tropical rainforests to landscapes basked in falling ash to cute little hot springs to bustling city life to a space station to mystical ruins inhabited by ancient legendary Pokémon to underwater caverns to a mountain cemetery to a treehouse city to a *BREATHES*
Kalos, on the other hand, is weirdly structured, poorly paced and cluttered with tons of stuffy, gaudy architecture, all of which equates to the region being largely forgettable. I can't recall a more miserable experience traversing a region in a mainline game.
Just to clarify: is there a lack of postgame or is it a lacking postgame?
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
It gave us Croagunk.
The latter. There's new things to do but it's closer to B/W than B2/W2.
(Based on what I've read, I've yet to play it myself)
Ultimadrago
Member
Absolutely. ORAS barely even makes up returning to it at all. I still can't help but to love its Legendaries, however.
I guess I'm okay with that because BW's postgame felt pretty extensive to me. Good to know!
PreyingShark
Member
-New judge function lets you breed for 30's AKA HP breeding is way more accessible
-Rental teams lets newbs get BP items much easier
-Can now queue eggs
-EV training's as easy as last gen ocne you know what you're doing
Among other things that I can't elaborate on right now because I have to get to work shit just noticed the time bye guys
SomedayTheFire
Member
People saying Hoenn and Sinnoh are the worst when Kanto exists lol
I thought there are no horde battles anymore?
Also about the BP thing, I asked this once but no one said it to me. Is there a postgame battle facility besides Battle Royal. You can even spoiler it. Just tell me if its something like PWT or like Battle Maison.
It suffers from what plagues most first version: It has a post-game, it's just barely there that's all. It's something you see echoed in a lot of reviews. I wish they actually gave the first versions a meaty post-game, holding them back for potential updates is a scummy move.
Dekuboy said:
There is, but the
Battle Tree is more like the Battle Tower of previous games with notable NPCs from the past showing up after certain streaks..
SpiceMelange
Member
Long story short you can chain pokemons that calls other pokemons for help. Done properly you can max out a EV in like a 7 chain.
Thanks anon
Is it still hard? Do I at least get trophies/achievments/badges or at least a diifferent colored trainer card if I win against all of them? I think in Gen 6 you get trophies for beating the sisters? I never did it but want to do it now. And in previous gens you got stars on your trainer card or got a different color on it
Also thanks @Helacious I know about the chaining but didn´t know about the EV thing.
Neoleo2143
Member
Generally more difficult than most games in the series. It's not SMT, but you might have a couple of good close calls if you turn the battle Style to Set in the options menu and turn off the EXP share.
UberTag
Member
Just so people in this thread have ready access to specifics on version exclusives before the question gets asked...
SUN
New Pokemon -
Alolan Ninetales / Buzzwole / Kartana / Passimian / Solgaleo / Turtonator
MOON
New Pokemon -
Alolan Sandslash / Celesteela / Drampa / Lunala / Oranguru / Pheromosa
DecoReturns
Member
Damn Now I wanna get Sun instead of Moon
Fantastic.
👌
By all accounts the control in areas without a top-down camera is improved.
But if you found Y boring it's probably not going to hook you right away, but it does deviate from a lot of the series usual traps.
PadWarrior
Member
So when the OT goes up can we have in the first post a guide to ev, iv, and breeding since its different from previous games? Also a guide on how to get hidden abilities of Pokemon?
balladofwindfishes
Member
Sun certainly has the better exclusives, but I'm still going with moon
yes.
Its still Pokemon at the end of the day.
while there are changes to the formula overall...its Pokemon.
SparksterMeta0
Member
Exactly my thought. Have been trying to get back to OR but for whatever reason, like the original Ruby, I'm struggling to finish it.
Charlie0108
Member
You missed the Garchomp and Flygon lines in Sun and the Metagross and Goodra lines in Moon.
SuperSonic1305
Member
So now i'm being punished for not using exp. share?
Charlie0108
Member
No, they've just brought back the way Exp worked in Gen V.
It will most likely be the most acclaimed JRPG of the year.
Shame more people don't know about Xanadu Next or Cold Steel 2.
:bow FALCOM :bow2
Neoleo2143
Member
Not using the EXP share results in lowered EXP gain anyway. No, the EXP formula scales on more variables including level differential.
Flygon line is in Moon too.
EDIT: And I think Garchomp as well, but you can only get a Gabite, according to these encounter tables from the date mine. It appears they show up only as a helper though, if I understand that right.
about that Z watch toy they announced earlier
http://kotaku.com/toy-time-plays-with-pokemon-sun-and-moons-z-ring-1789007852
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qBeKuUxdrI
yah,you let the watch hear the sound of Z move and it will light on,there is no button on it to use the Z move directly from the watch.
http://kotaku.com/toy-time-plays-with-pokemon-sun-and-moons-z-ring-1789007852
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qBeKuUxdrI
yah,you let the watch hear the sound of Z move and it will light on,there is no button on it to use the Z move directly from the watch.
Crimson_Echidna
Banned
The right amount of water this Gen for IGN.