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[Razmos]

From Serebii:

The Pokémon Company today reuploaded a trailer for Pokémon Bank, but within this trailer's description, it stated the timing for the special update to Pokémon Bank that will add support for Pokémon Sun & Moon, as well as Pokémon Red, Green, Blue & Yellow. This update is currently tentatively schedule for January 2017, later than the autumn timing that was stated in the Pokémon Direct back in February. We'll bring more as it comes so be sure to keep checking back

This is really disappointing if true, as it means we'll be locked out from transferring over our favourites for months after release

 

[UnluckyKate]

well that's shitty

 

[entremet]

I'd wager so people could focus on the new monsters as well.

This also means no hacked mons for a bit.

Bad news, tho.

I wanted to get 3 starters.

 

[PeakPointMatrix]

Then what the hell is the point of the bank.

If I'm not mistaken, don't people have to pay for access to the bank too? What a joke.

 

[Dystify]

2 months after Sun/Moon release. Not really an issue to me.

 

[HawthorneKitty]

Then what the hell is the point of the bank.

If I'm not mistaken, don't people have to pay for access to the bank too? What a joke.

Bank loses all meaning if the feature from gen 1 to 7 is not available day one?

Bruh.

 

[Exterminieren]

Eh, don't fundamentally mind too much. Giving me a few months to use the newbies is no bad thing, and it's not like my guys on the Bank are going anywhere.

 

[kuroneko0509]

honestly I rather spend some time getting used to the new pokemon....

 

[Caayn]

This is really disappointing if true, as it means we'll be locked out from transferring over our favourites for months after release

Transfer like we did in the days before Pokémon bank?

 

[platocplx]

honestly I rather spend some time getting used to the new pokemon....

yeah i agree, using the bank for ORAS just made the game a cakewalk lol. its not a huge deal for me.

 

[Clefargle]

Well that isn't optimal but as long as it comes eventually.

 

[Syntsui]

Not a problem, I just hope there is a way to prevent bank Pokémon from online play when the transfers are available. The previous gen is beyond repair with the amount of perfect hacked Pokémons.

 

[entremet]

Transfer like we did in the days before Pokémon bank?

Pokebank is the new transfer method now.

You want those shitty mini games back?

 

[ShikabaneHime13]

I actually find this a bit refreshing as that means everyone starts on even footing and no one will be importing potentially overpowered mon early

 

[Vital Tundra]

I can understand wanting people to just play the game. But it doesn't take that long to beat the games. Waiting a week for the bank would be fine, over a month is far to long.

 

[Diprosalic]

That's a good thing.

 

[Chase17]

Fine by me. Will be nice to see everyone just using the regional dex online and such. Two months isn't too bad a wait.

 

[Qurupeke]

Subscription cancelled.

 

[MasterSheen]

We'll at least have a period of time before the hacked mons come in

 

[linkandzelda]

Not a problem, I just hope there is a way to prevent bank Pokémon from online play when the transfers are available. The previous gen is beyond repair with the amount of perfect hacked Pokémons.

As 3DS is already hacked and in all likelihood Gen 7 will use similar save file and Pokemon file structures to Gen 6 it will only be a few weeks after release before Gen 7 is hacked. It will probably be hacked before Gen 1 and Gen 3-6 Pokemon are available to be transferred.

 

[darkhunger]

Transfer like we did in the days before Pokémon bank?

There's no method of transfer from previous gens to Gen 7 other than the Bank, IIRC

 

[Razmos]

I actually find this a bit refreshing as that means everyone starts on even footing and no one will be importing potentially overpowered mon early

Yeah I can definitely see that and it's definitely a positive of this situation, but on the other hand...

I can understand wanting people to just play the game. But it doesn't take that long to beat the games. Waiting a week for the bank would be fine, over a month is far to long.

It's a lot of waiting around for those that like to get involved in the competitive side of things

 

[Wensih]

As long as it becomes compatible, I'm fine.

 

[Ricitor]

That's disappointing. I am just two Pokemon away from a living dex in ORAS. Hopefully by the time I get to end game in Sun or Moon it will be up (doubt it).
Will be nice just to focus on the new Pokemon though.

 

[tareqsalah1]

So people cant sell their game when the finish it.

 

[killer rin]

Then what the hell is the point of the bank.

If I'm not mistaken, don't people have to pay for access to the bank too? What a joke.

They are forcing people to Ash it every game

 

[Sayad]

Good news afaic, allows the game to develop a meta around the available collection before all hell break loose.

 

[darklin0]

Whatever, I wont be using my bank until I finish the main story quests.

 

[Weebos]

Then what the hell is the point of the bank.

If I'm not mistaken, don't people have to pay for access to the bank too? What a joke.

Yeah, the astronomical sum of $5 a year.

We didn't have bank access for longer with XY, shouldn't really be an issue.

 

[Shadow Broker]

This is pretty cool. Puts a focus on new Pokémon and forms for a couple months.

 

[Syntsui]

As 3DS is already hacked and in all likelihood Gen 7 will use similar save file and Pokemon file structures to Gen 6 it will only be a few weeks after release before Gen 7 is hacked. It will probably be hacked before Gen 1 and Gen 3-6 Pokemon are available to be transferred.

Only old firmware 3DS are hacked no? Wouldn't this prevent them from playing online at the very least?

 

[Parshias7]

The only downer for me is not being able to transfer my False Swipe/Spore Pokemon for catching stuff in the new gen when I want to fill out my Pokedex.

 

[WrenchNinja]

That's okay. I would have just filled the Pokedex up immediately if they had made it available. This way I'll get to learn every route and location and what Pokemon are available.

Oh god I'm turning into serebii

No no, this is fucking dumb yo. I want my ORAS team in there stat

 

[MegaMelon]

Not too big a deal but I'm dissapointed that there isn't a way to transfer from gen 6 to gen 7 using 2 3ds's. I give gen 5 to 6 a pass due to going through ds--->3ds. Whilst we (probably?) can trade directly, a manual group transfer option would be nice. I'm not doing 700+ pokemon one at a time

 

[linkandzelda]

Only old firmware 3DS are hacked no? Wouldn't this prevent them from playing online at the very least?

No. I'm not sure what Firmwares are hacked right now but they are all pretty recent. I think that some 11.0 Firmwares have been hacked. Regardless if someone has two 3DS' they can bypass this. The first is hacked and they can extract (and then edit and reinsert) the savefile by inserting the cart in that one and then play online with the hacked save by inserting the cart into the updated non-hacked 3DS.

Edit: Yep, just had a look at my hacked 3DS and it is on firmware 11.0.0-33E. The newest firmware is 11.0.0-34E.

 

[Zalman]

It doesn't bother me personally. I'd rather spend time with the new ones before bringing in my others.

 

[trugs26]

I only transfer for completing the Pokedex. So I don't care at all that it's not there at launch. You basically play the game for what it is, then once you're done with it, you can bombard it with all your old Pokemon.

 

[Ushojax]

I actually think this is a good thing, as long as it comes no later than January.

 

[ar4757]

I like this. It was a cool dynamic in X/Y when it was all fresh new mons

And then they delayed Pokemon bank even more and i was mad

 

[Syntsui]

No. I'm not sure what Firmwares are hacked right now but they are all pretty recent. I think that some 11.0 Firmwares have been hacked. Regardless if someone has two 3DS' they can bypass this. The first is hacked and they can extract (and then edit and reinsert) the savefile by inserting the cart in that one and then play online with the hacked save by inserting the cart into the updated non-hacked 3DS.

Edit: Yep, just had a look at my hacked 3DS and it is on firmware 11.0.0-33E.

Whelp, there's literally no reason to take competitive Pokémon seriously then. What a shame.

 

[Lilalaunebaer]

HMMMMM, i dunno man. I want a charizard in my team (i´d breed a charmander out of a charizard from the bank). The rest would be new pokemans, but i want my charizard. HMMMMM. Not pleased. (personally don´t care for online battles, so whatever on that front for me).

 

[entremet]

That's okay. I would have just filled the Pokedex up immediately if they had made it available. This way I'll get to learn every route and location and what Pokemon are available.

Oh god I'm turning into serebii

No no, this is fucking dumb yo. I want my ORAS team in there stat

Sounds boring.

Isn't the fun catching and training new monsters?

 

[Syntsui]

HMMMMM, i dunno man. I want a charizard in my team (i´d breed a charmander out of a charizard from the bank). The rest would be new pokemans, but i want my charizard. HMMMMM. Not pleased. (personally don´t care for online battles, so whatever on that front for me).

You will get your Charmander in Alola. There is no way it won't be in the game considering you can ride Charizards there.

 

[RionaaM]

Not a problem, I just hope there is a way to prevent bank Pokémon from online play when the transfers are available. The previous gen is beyond repair with the amount of perfect hacked Pokémons.

What? Hell no, I have an almost complete living dex there, I don't want to have to catch all 721 mons again.

 

[Lil'DigiOp]

Whelp, there's literally no reason to take competitive Pokémon seriously then. What a shame.

Breed your own?

I mean if there was no hacks then people would still have perfect pokemon... Illegal movesets can't be transferred and I doubt the vast majority of Pokemon players are abusing the game.

This is really non news.


I mean this is finally the game where EVERYTHING got switched up. Idk bout y'all but Im playing it fresh, I aint worried about no damn transfers until the game is finished.

 

[Lilalaunebaer]

You will get your Charmander in Alola. There is no way it won't be in the game considering you can ride Charizards there.

I didn´t know, been on media black-out for this game. Want to know as little as possible about it. (though this info pleases me)

 

[Starwolf_UK]

The thing about hacked Pokemon is the start of a gem brings about a lot of players. A lot of players who don't use hacks so your chance of getting a shiny from wonder trade is actually going to be lower than it is in Gen VI right now (one of my favourite Gen VI moments was pre-bank getting a shiny from wonder trade, it was a Happiny nicknamed "No thanks" with 0IV in HP and defence).

Not a problem, I just hope there is a way to prevent bank Pokémon from online play when the transfers are available. The previous gen is beyond repair with the amount of perfect hacked Pokémons.

There will be perfect legit Pokemon in Gen VII given the existence of the IV maxing item.

 

[Syntsui]

Breed your own?

I mean if there was no hacks then people would still have perfect pokemon... Illegal movesets can't be transferred and I doubt the vast majority of Pokemon players are abusing the game.

This is really non news.


I mean this is finally the game where EVERYTHING got switched up. Idk bout y'all but Im playing it fresh, I aint worried about no damn transfers until the game is finished.

The vast majority won't hack, but whoever takes the competitive scene seriously most definitely will, or at the very least will bring their hacked Pokémons from the previous Gen. Even this year Major's champion was already caught with hacked Pokémons while playing casuals a while ago.

The thing about hacked Pokemon is the start of a gem brings about a lot of players. A lot of players who don't use hacks so your chance of getting a shiny from wonder trade is actually going to be lower than it is in Gen VI right now (one of my favourite Gen VI moments was pre-bank getting a shiny from wonder trade, it was a Happiny nicknamed "No thanks" with 0IV in HP and defence).


There will be perfect legit Pokemon in Gen VII given the existence of the IV maxing item.

Is it confirmed Hyper Training will allow to modify every single IV from every single Pokémon so easily?

 

[Parshias7]

Not a problem, I just hope there is a way to prevent bank Pokémon from online play when the transfers are available. The previous gen is beyond repair with the amount of perfect hacked Pokémons.

I always wonder if the people who are constantly complaining about perfect IV Pokemon online ever bothered trying to breed their own Pokemon in-game or not.

I don't even care about hacked Pokemon because GameFreak has made it easier than ever to make your own good Pokemon. In X/Y I had about a box and a half worth of 5IV Pokemon with the perfect IVs in the proper places, which is all you need for the majority of competitive Pokemon. And now they're adding a way to increase a Pokemon's IVs after the fact so making your own team of perfect Pokemon should be a breeze.

 

[Renkax]

Oh come on, hitmonlees don't appear on grass ya know.