The word for dinosaur in Japanese is 恐竜 (kyouryuu, or "scary dragon" roughly, I think). A lot of the weird properties of things in Pokemon make more sense in light of various Japanese names and cultural references.
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Pokemon that are the wrong type
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ShadowElliot
Banned
I always felt like Phanphy should be part normal
And with this scene from the anime
I feel Dunsparce should part flying or something now
Dunsparce can fly?! What?!
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
Drapion is the worst. Both in design and in typing.
Beyonce Beytwice
Member
Uxie normally has its eyes closed almost all the time, so in sparce instances where it opens them it has to adjust to the light and such.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Someone should post Simipour's eyes lol
GF does retcon mons though. Problem is it's only once in a blue moon.
Also Flying is essentially "wind" type.
GF does retcon mons though. Problem is it's only once in a blue moon.
Also Flying is essentially "wind" type.
AzureTranquility95
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Entryhazard
Banned
They're embodimemts of Emotion, Knowledge and Will. They're fine as Psychic
AzureTranquility95
Banned
Thinking about it, that type combo would be pretty powerful, no?
Water is neutralized. Ground is neutralized. Ice is neutralized (lol). Rock would deal SE damage but since it's part Grass it could just use Energy Ball. Bug is neutralized... Flying and Poison are its only legitimate weaknesses? That's no pre-Gen 6 Dark/Ghost or Electric+Levitate, but damn.
Also I just remembered something... didn't ice used to deal neutral damage to fire?
EDIT: Also, implying Weavile is even considered an Ice-Type competitively. We all know it's more of a Dark-Type rep.
Beyonce Beytwice
Member
EDIT: Also, implying Weavile is even considered an Ice-Type competitively. We all know it's more of a Dark-Type rep.
That's utter nonsense. It relies on both Dark and Ice attacks (+ Poison Jab and Low Kick).
For the people who are defending the Bird/Flying separation, how would you differentiate the two? Mind you, I think it'd be interesting, but chances are they were all mixed (there's traces of a Bird type in RBY [looking at you, Missingno.]) due to difficulty in making them different enough.
Meh. Not enough birds in game to justify giving them a whole 'nother type.
I dont think they're that few.
Pidgey/Pidgeotto/Pidgeot
Spearrow/Fearrow
Farfetch'd
Doduo/Dodrio
Articuno/Zapdos/Moltres
Hoothoot/Noctowl
Togetic/Togekiss(?)
Natu/Xatu
Murkrow/Honchkrow
Delibird
Skarmory
Lugia/Ho-oh
Taillow/Swellow
Wingull/Pelipper
Swablu/Altaria
Starly/Staravia/Staraptor
Chatot
Pidove/Tranquil/Unfezant
Sigilyph(?)
Archen/Archeops
Ducklett/Swanna
Rufflet/Braviary
Vullaby/Mandibuzz
Fletchling/Fletchinder/Talonflame
Hawlucha
Yveltal
If anything, it's the "Wind/Flying" Type that has less members:
Charizard
Butterfree
Zubat/Golbat/Crobat
Scyther
Mega Pinsir
Gyarados
Aerodactyl
Dragonite
Ledyba/Ledian
Hoppip/Skiploom/Jumpluff
Yanma/Yanmega
Gligar/Gliscor
Mantine/Mantyke
Beautifly
Masquerain
Ninjask
Tropius
Salamence
Rayquaza
Mothim
Combee/Vespiqueen
Drifloon/Drifblim
RotomF
Shaymin Sky
Arceus
Woobat/Swoobat
Tornados/Thundurus/Landorus
Vivillon
Noibat/Noivern
That's 49 vs 42. Not so bad, actually...
Entryhazard
Banned
Anyway we all know who is the worst offender
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
yeah don't forget Tornadus, the literal embodiment of wind
already explained, look up on my post
let's just say a lot of pokemon enjoy puns
Anyway we all know who is the worst offender
already explained, look up on my post
let's just say a lot of pokemon enjoy puns
You could potentially add Blaziken and Empoleon (and their pre-evos) to the Bird type section...that's getting into "Triple Type" territory though.
What type should it be.Anyway we all know who is the worst offender
Dragons flying through clouds is standard through many fictional works.
True. You could have Torchic/Piplup/Prinplup be part Bird and lose said type when evolving.
Entryhazard
Banned
It looks more like a pidgeon through a cloud
Riposte
Member
How about a game of pretend?
Brawly Likes to Brawl
Member
Goomy feels like it should be a dual type but I don't know what.
Beyonce Beytwice
Member
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I think a number of evolutions and babies are the most in need of a retcon. I don't know what possessed GameFreak to prize continuity over user friendliness in that regard.
When the leakers first encountered Goomy the GAF thread assumed it was going to evolve to be Dragon/Poison because it's based on a poisonous animal
That's why it's Flying.
Altaria is based on a Peng a mythical bird like creature that is often portrayed having cloud like wings, dragon head and whiskers.
Altaria is the right typing.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
No the Peng thing is something bulbapedia spread which is false.
Like I said, it being closely related to the Draco constellation and being linked to the Blue Bird of Happiness is the key to the typing.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
Member
Stunfisk!
A fish not weak to lightning throws me every single time I face it -_-
A fish not weak to lightning throws me every single time I face it -_-
Raven77
Member
I always felt like Phanphy should be part normal
And with this scene from the anime
I feel Dunsparce should part flying or something now
What show / movie is that from?
I really used to like the original Pokemon show. Any recommendations? I only ever saw Season 1-2 of the original I think.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
It was supposed to be Water/Electric at first (Lot's of intresting other Tibids about Gen 5 Pokémon in the Link)
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Deleted member 231381
Unconfirmed Member
Comparatively, Gen 1 Mewtwo > M-Ray. It had a single weakness, Bug-type, and outsped and could OHKO every Bug-type in Gen 1. The only serious strategy for taking out Mewtwo was to get a Chansey and use Blizzard repeatedly and pray like fuck you got a freeze and that your opponent wasn't running a Submission Mewtwo just to fuck with you, or accept you were going to lose a Pokemon and just sacrifice something to paralyse Mewtwo and bring in a tanky physical attacker. Gen 1 Mewtwo guaranteed your opponent lost one Pokemon and probably two.
NobleXenon
Member
Gengar.
My favorite Pokemon but too many weaknesses to play it because its a poison type. They should just re-type it as Ghost/Dark, considering its a Shadow Pokemon.
My favorite Pokemon but too many weaknesses to play it because its a poison type. They should just re-type it as Ghost/Dark, considering its a Shadow Pokemon.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I find it funny though that Arceus still dominates MegaRayRay
wut
Gengar's like one of the few Gen 1 mon that never suffered a power creep and in fact got so many goodies each gen
wut
Gengar's like one of the few Gen 1 mon that never suffered a power creep and in fact got so many goodies each gen
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Deleted member 231381
Unconfirmed Member
Ghost/Dark Gengar would be pretty damn powerful. Barely any weakness, and a much, much better STAB (including on Pursuit). Gengar as pure Ghost would have been better - and this one is particularly annoying as this should have been the case since Gen 1 given Ghosts were supposed to be Psychic counters.
Entryhazard
Banned
So, like most GEN5 pokémons it was supposed to be a bad copy of an already existing pokémon, Lanturn in this case
privitsan02
Member
Going by the original 2 games, which were the only ones I cared about
Charizard -> Fire/Dragon instead of Flying
Gyarados -> Water/Dragon instead of Flying
Lapras -> Ice/Dragon or Water/Dragon instead of Water/Ice
Venonat/Venomoth -> Bug/Psychic or Poison/Psychic
Psyduck or Golduck -> Water/Psychic
Lugia -> Water/Psychic or Water/Flying instead of Psychic/Flying
Best wishes.
Charizard -> Fire/Dragon instead of Flying
Gyarados -> Water/Dragon instead of Flying
Lapras -> Ice/Dragon or Water/Dragon instead of Water/Ice
Venonat/Venomoth -> Bug/Psychic or Poison/Psychic
Psyduck or Golduck -> Water/Psychic
Lugia -> Water/Psychic or Water/Flying instead of Psychic/Flying
Best wishes.
I knew it!! Stunfisk ground typing always felt odd.
Still an awesome Pokémon, though I wish that it had Water absorb for its ability would have been miles better than Limber, which is freaking useless in gen 6.
Ha ha nope, Stunfisk is awesome it's bulky as hell.
Entryhazard
Banned
Yes they changed it, but as you can read the first draft was Lanturn 2: Electric Boogaloo
Don't forget gen 2-3 Wobbufett.
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Deleted member 231381
Unconfirmed Member
Infinite stalemates hurrah! The Struggle is real.
Beyonce Beytwice
Member
That's a good point; all the Pokémon that learn it by level-up are Steel-types, except Blastoise.
AnkiRendan
Member
Heh, that reminds me of the fact in the anime Iris has an Excadrill because it has "ryuu" in its Japanese name (Doryuuzu). But yeah, seeing as how we have a few dinosaur Pokemon as dragons that makes sense.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
And in egg groups, Dragon egg refers to any reptilian-type Pokemon except for Flygon and Noivern for some odd reason.
SenorArdilla
Member
Flygon is in the Bug egg group and Noivern is in the Flying egg group (aka birds-like Pokemon that also includes stuff like Crobat and Archen).
Fire/psychic
water/psychic
They'll get inevitable Mega-Evolutions that'll give them those types once the next set of gen 1 remakes come in.