Wheeljack539
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And who would be realistically left for the Dems?
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And who would be realistically left for the Dems?
elvisaintdead
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I live in Canada, but I've still seen the hats in some of my classes. Really glad it's reading week for me.
We'd have to win over the demo's that the GOP is gerrymandering for. I have no idea how we'd go about that.
It's possible after 4 years of recession people will realize their supposed scapegoats were false, but that notion is predicated on the notion that racism is a consequence of economic "anxiety" which I definitely don't believe.
Good Job Bob
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Nowhere, I am gonna stay here and work on my country.
Manmademan
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War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
Obama is an exceptional campaigner. An all time great. That he's black is a detriment to his appeal.* If he was white, he'd be even more popular nationally.
That said, a potato would have won in 2008. 2012 was his big win.
The USA is a far more right wing country than the Democrats behaved. That said, a progressive message is harder to transmit because many of the core issues - abortion, anti-racism, healthcare - are immediately alienating to a lot of the right. Also, there are always more rights to grant and progressives are never satisfied (I don't blame them). Whereas the right wing regress to a bunker mentality of fear - they'll take our country.
*obviously it helps amongst AAs and in terms of being a historic moment, but broadly speaking it is fair
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Hillary went from thinking she would be the first female president to spending the next four years in prison.
I'm so sorry, queen.
I'm so sorry, queen.
BoboBrazil
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Fuck with no raise in minimum wage, homeless levels are going to get insane here in Dallas.
StormBrute
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Our only hope is Kennedy and Roberts.
Whoever Trump appoints is going to be insane. They won't care about anything but what Trump wants.
We have to hope that Kennedy and Roberts are willing to look at this and say it's too far for them.
UltimaPooh
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SenorArdilla
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So is diablos a mod now?
I blame this solely on the media spending the last year and half making the email non-story seem more nefarious than Trump wanting to deport 11 million immigrants. More nefarious than his constant denigration of Muslims. More nefarious than sexual assault. More nefarious than the constant deligitimization of our sitting president. More nefarious than calling a hit on and threatening to jail a political opponent. More nefarious than the head of the FBI purposefully acting to influence the election.
The email story should have been dropped months ago. There was literally NOTHING there. But emails made Hillary Clinton more evil than Donald Trump. Our media is an absolute disgrace.
You can disagree, I don't care. I know where I'm personally assigning blame. But one thing can't be denied by anyone: our society, on every level, was not ready to combat the will of a fascist. And we should all be ashamed.
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
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Deserve has got nothing to do with this.
Tranqueris
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Staying the fuck in California. The whole of the United States might as well be somewhere around a dozen liberal states for me now.
BreezyLimbo
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Planned Parenthood
Womens right to choose
LGBT rights
Immigration and the status of immigrants
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These are things that are going to be affected. These are things that motherfuckers who decided to vote for Trump want to ruin.
Fuck.
Womens right to choose
LGBT rights
Immigration and the status of immigrants
SCOTUS
These are things that are going to be affected. These are things that motherfuckers who decided to vote for Trump want to ruin.
Fuck.
BoosterDuck
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please don't remind me, bro
I literally have no idea what to expect from his Presidency. I can't think of anything being good. I think the only good thing I ever heard him say is that he would break with his party and allow for gun background checks for those on the terror watch list. One thing.
https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald
Yes, the sun will come up tomorrow. And shine light on an economy that just slit its own throat.
I don't know if Obama can even calm Obama down now.
Coriolanus
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Jill is getting barely any votes and one can mostly safely assume that anyone voting GJ favours republicans in general, sooo... not really.
Trump was the Great White Hope. He gave them exactly what they wanted in a candidate. He took everything they had been digesting in right wing talk radio and Fox News and gave it human form.
We didn't want to believe it would have this impact because we had more faith in this country than it deserved. We were wrong.
We thought this country had progressed in a positive direction and that the conservative policies and bigotry was something that this country was moving away from. That Obama represented a new coalition that would serve as a firewall against that particular breed of conservatism. We are probably a good 20 years too early to be thinking that. The generations in power that want this aren't going to give up. They are going to fight as hard as they can and do as much damage as possible.
My girlfriend's mother is at risk of being out of a job with the threat to her union. My girlfriend's deductibles are at risk.
Fantastic.
No, that was if Clinton died. He gets a tag instead.
It doesn't fucking matter. Just accept that there are millions of bone headed morons in America who hate Hillary. Those same exact bone headed morons loved Bill.
You NEED someone who isn't dry and hasn't been smeared for three decades with shit. What we have just seen is that people don't care and out policy.
Biden would've won. Obviously he couldn't run because of his son, but voters want someone who they think will fight for them, WHETHER IT'S TRUE OR NOT.
Head of Vengarl
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We're dealing with a red backlash right now after getting Obama. Can we Dems counter-backlash? I don't know. Tonight has been extremely disheartening.
Thank you, dad. I'm going to miss you so much...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_elections,_2018
2018 isn't looking promising for the Senate either.
2018 isn't looking promising for the Senate either.
I'd love nothing more then to.
Sadly, it's not possible.
God, I wish I could get out of the Air Force before this cockstain becomes commander in chief.
peppermints
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Bonen no Max'd
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yeah we need a white-ass dude with charisma in 2020
it's shitty but we'll have gone through enough shit by 2024
it's shitty but we'll have gone through enough shit by 2024
Officerrob
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Dan Pfeiffer ‏@danpfeiffer 1h1 hour ago
Whatever happens tonight, everything, everyone has believed about polls, data, and the electoral map is being turned on its head
Yep, everything is up in the air now
Whatever happens tonight, everything, everyone has believed about polls, data, and the electoral map is being turned on its head
Yep, everything is up in the air now
Well guys, Pennsylvania is going Trump (not being called yet, but it's clear).
Nate Silver was right, Hillary's coalition was too inefficient in the electoral college, even then Trump simply overperformed incredibly. Millennials also took for granted too much of Obama's progress.
But, we just have to fight on. The demographics are still on our side and now the Democrats are going to be the opposition party once war, sadly with a lot of obstacles in our way.
But Obama won't just go into the sunset. I have no doubt that he (maybe Hillary), Michelle, Warren, Bernie?, and others, will fight on.
That's all there's left, just keep going.
Nate Silver was right, Hillary's coalition was too inefficient in the electoral college, even then Trump simply overperformed incredibly. Millennials also took for granted too much of Obama's progress.
But, we just have to fight on. The demographics are still on our side and now the Democrats are going to be the opposition party once war, sadly with a lot of obstacles in our way.
But Obama won't just go into the sunset. I have no doubt that he (maybe Hillary), Michelle, Warren, Bernie?, and others, will fight on.
That's all there's left, just keep going.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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This is true.
Hillary is a good person, but that no one believed she was a good person probably should have been more important to the party before deciding on her before the primaries.
Kander is too young, right?
No they don't. You may, but people don't. People like to think they have the answers and that it all comes down to getting someone who agrees with them. No one wants expertise or nuance.
The Technomancer
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I feel so fucking broken right now
when we're facing crisis after crisis and scandal after scandal, i hope people remember e-mails scared the crap out of them.
when rights are being taken away and people are being marginalized on the color of their skin, i hope people still feel good about their protest vote and write-ins.
Poland?
Good luck finding the right candidate. The Democratic party is now basically Obama and no one else. Dems really fucked up finding good candidates who can win in competitive races over the years.
This. The majority of the media coverage was on scandals, whether they have some basis in reality or perceived.
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