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PoliGAF 2016 |OT5| Archdemon Hillary Clinton vs. Lice Traffic Jam
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Bam Bam Baklava
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I wish I could have been here when the exit poll came out.
HillaryGAF was in meltdown mode. BernieGAF was screaming from the rooftops (even though a loss is still really bad).
Then the margin, uh... didn't close. And the exit poll number looked to be bunk. HillaryGAF yaaass'd. BernieGAF disappeared off the face of the earth (searching for Melkr_ like).
And that was the night of 4-19.
I was freaking out.
It's the way the dude said it. I almost spit out my drink when I turned on the radio and heard that.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Wow, can't believe how Hillary's corrupting influence has changed the Onion:
http://www.theonion.com/article/clinton-takes-campaign-staff-little-hole-wall-fina-52770
http://www.theonion.com/article/clinton-takes-campaign-staff-little-hole-wall-fina-52770
That thread will go down as the day I wanted this primary to be over.
And God I wish it were right now. Before Weaver convinces Bernie to triple down on mudslinging and deceit.
My husband was listening to TYT and Cenk and some other guy were flipping out, and I was like just no. Especially because early results were coming in from the city showing Clinton at 63%.
aspiegamer
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Listening to the CNN International people talk about this stuff is way more interesting. Also less yelling and coded racism.
This qualifies as "epic fail" for CNN, but it did make the win more satisfying in the end as it started at 18ish and only dropped a little the whole night.
I screamed "WHAT?" at my TV. And then we started getting actual results about 15 minutes later. Not sure I've seen any news agency that does exit polls ever miss a large-turnout statewide election by 12 points! That takes talent. The pundits on hand must have known the actual situation on the ground, though, as they didn't really react much.
This qualifies as "epic fail" for CNN, but it did make the win more satisfying in the end as it started at 18ish and only dropped a little the whole night.
3? That's some major overkill for a weekday evening!
I was watching CNN when the first poll results came in-- Blitzer's first words were about the Dem election, saying it was "too close to call" even though the image was labeled "too early to call". They then called the Repub primary for Trump and would not call the Dem race until ~30 mins later once Trump's speech was done.
Now I didn't see that 52-48 exit poll until a few minutes after the "too early to call" but it just felt (as many here pointed out at the time) their whole approach was purely to keep people watching haha. It just didn't fit all those earlier exit polls.
Now I didn't see that 52-48 exit poll until a few minutes after the "too early to call" but it just felt (as many here pointed out at the time) their whole approach was purely to keep people watching haha. It just didn't fit all those earlier exit polls.
I have tomorrow off so I have nothing to worry about. Poor him though, he has to still get up a six. A whole bunch of mess fun though!
International news is just better for some reason.
makingmusic476
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That OP is hilarious.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Really though, "Low Energy" and "Little Marco" are the only nicknames Trump has given out which have been any good, kind of overrated in that regard.
Bam Bam Baklava
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At this point, what message is your vote really sending? It's not as though Clinton is no longer aware of his liberal support and what they want.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Hmm, there hasn't been an Indiana poll since December. Glad pollsters wasted resources on 400k NY polls instead of polling Indiana though.
I like this. I mean, I'd like to think that people do it every time there's an election that a woman gets to vote in, but this is definitely shaping up to be a special one.
Hillary has to know that she can't win in November without us*. I'm terrified of her pivot towards the center. We've gotten a preview and it's ugly stuff. The longer this debate continues, and despite the animosity online I think it's at its core a civil one, the better our party will come out. We will unite behind Hillary in the end, as long as she doesn't betray our values.
*yes, Trump is deeply unpopular, but who knows, the GE race might tighten up. It's been a long time since the general was won in a landslide.
My phone started sending me notifications whenever someone wins a primary too. It sent me a "Hillary Clinton wins New York primary" notification and I was like bitch I know the tea.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
No, that's not a preview, that was just a fuckup. She apologized for it and wrote a lengthy statement on it. You are not going to see much of a pivot to the center, because she simply won't need to do so to win this election. It's going to be a lot of experimenting with messaging, as it's becoming quite clear that the younger generation is far more liberal, and so the country will be shifting left.
aspiegamer
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I openly admit that I yanked this off Reddit, but this is just so astonishingly awful--
http://justicegazette.org/has-hillary-won-anything.html
My favorite part is when it's somehow Hillary's fault that pesky voter ID laws exist and/or it's her personal job to go change state election laws regarding eligibility. It also specifies that states that don't actually count as "old Confederacy" as a more racist way of saying "deep south," and apparently "Blacks" could never support Clinton because her husband jailed 40% of their "males," so all that stuff is a myth. Of course there's the "Bill Clinton across the street from a polling place totally cost Sanders 20,000 votes in MA" meme. Got to have that at the top. Also featured, touchscreen voting panels hacked and flipped to swap results in the electronic log. Don't read it. It's downhill from there.
This is the sort of person I'm worried about, though. Those that are so far gone and so detached from political reality that they're loose cannons. Every candidate and campaign has at least some of them. Absolutely nothing you could tell this person would convince them otherwise. Mentioning that a variety of things stated never happened and/or are outright lies is meaningless, thus it's impossible to have a discussion on any of it. Displaying indisputable, factually accurate information in full context would be shrugged off. Everything is in absolutes. No grey areas. Pure or tainted, one side or the other, good and evil, that's it.
I don't even care who this person might end up voting for. The only thing worse than a low-information voter is a wrong-information voter. They're also less likely to participate in politics in the future if left to be so sour.
http://justicegazette.org/has-hillary-won-anything.html
My favorite part is when it's somehow Hillary's fault that pesky voter ID laws exist and/or it's her personal job to go change state election laws regarding eligibility. It also specifies that states that don't actually count as "old Confederacy" as a more racist way of saying "deep south," and apparently "Blacks" could never support Clinton because her husband jailed 40% of their "males," so all that stuff is a myth. Of course there's the "Bill Clinton across the street from a polling place totally cost Sanders 20,000 votes in MA" meme. Got to have that at the top. Also featured, touchscreen voting panels hacked and flipped to swap results in the electronic log. Don't read it. It's downhill from there.
This is the sort of person I'm worried about, though. Those that are so far gone and so detached from political reality that they're loose cannons. Every candidate and campaign has at least some of them. Absolutely nothing you could tell this person would convince them otherwise. Mentioning that a variety of things stated never happened and/or are outright lies is meaningless, thus it's impossible to have a discussion on any of it. Displaying indisputable, factually accurate information in full context would be shrugged off. Everything is in absolutes. No grey areas. Pure or tainted, one side or the other, good and evil, that's it.
I don't even care who this person might end up voting for. The only thing worse than a low-information voter is a wrong-information voter. They're also less likely to participate in politics in the future if left to be so sour.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
You gotta remember aspiegamer, it's tough to estimate what these type of people were before the election. In all probability, things will smooth over with 99% of the electorate before November. The only real difference between this election and 08 is Sanders attacking the party he is running for. Whether that will make up much of a difference I don't know. Otherwise it's far more tame than 08.
Same with all our districts down in LA.
cartoon_soldier
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Studies have shown that these young liberals become much less so when they graduate and get a job.
I think Trump has a good shot at carrying LA County though because (white) Republicans near the border have shown themselves to be very anti-immigrant and pro-Trump, and white Republican voters in diverse areas are also more favorable to Trump than not.
Needs some Drudge flashing siren animated GIFs. And why have they failed to cover Monsanto's role in this election fraud?
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Ok, but where do they end up on average? After all it's all relative.
shinra-bansho
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Not meus.
When you have to pay taxes you tend to care more about tax rates.
When you have to pay taxes you tend to care more about tax rates.
Middle management.
cartoon_soldier
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Hoping for a 300+ delegate lead after 26th for Hillary. Possible?
It will be around that. DE and MD should be large wins. If she manage to win PA and CT too by 5-10. She should be around that 300 lead.
PA is over 10%, that's not a question.
538 seems pretty cautiously optimistic about Trump's chances of winning a majority of delegates, which is interesting considering how dismissive Nate Silver was about Trump prior to the primaries:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/new-york-primary-presidential-election-2016/
If Trump finishes with 90 delegates from New York and matches the panels projections in the remaining states, hed eventually finish with 1,191 delegates close enough to 1,237 that he might be able to get there with uncommitted delegates, especially uncommitted delegates from Pennsylvania.
Of course even there he'd still have to work a little magic since he'd need about 45+ uncommitted delegates to swing his way, but still.....
I'm not certain if I should be hoping for an uncontested convention and Trump nomination, or if I should want the RNC to steal the nod from Trump in a nuclear option that would shatter the party (at least for this election cycle). It sounds like the GE will be a disaster either way so maybe I shouldn't but that much thought into it.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/new-york-primary-presidential-election-2016/
If Trump finishes with 90 delegates from New York and matches the panels projections in the remaining states, hed eventually finish with 1,191 delegates close enough to 1,237 that he might be able to get there with uncommitted delegates, especially uncommitted delegates from Pennsylvania.
Of course even there he'd still have to work a little magic since he'd need about 45+ uncommitted delegates to swing his way, but still.....
I'm not certain if I should be hoping for an uncontested convention and Trump nomination, or if I should want the RNC to steal the nod from Trump in a nuclear option that would shatter the party (at least for this election cycle). It sounds like the GE will be a disaster either way so maybe I shouldn't but that much thought into it.
SolicitorPirate
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So I checked out TYT for the first time, and literally the first thing I hear is, "I have a hard time not disliking my friends who support Hillary."
As a semi-regular follower of the American election, and as one with a democratic socialist leaning... wtf happened to Bernie Sanders and his "revolution"? The only thing so far to revolt is my stomach at the conduct of his campaign and his campaign followers, from vague policy to vacations to Rome to the continual sniping.
Seemed like a half-okay guy at the start, and then it's like he saw Trump's fiery ascent and decided the path to the presidency was to flip volume and style to 11.
Seemed like a half-okay guy at the start, and then it's like he saw Trump's fiery ascent and decided the path to the presidency was to flip volume and style to 11.
I'm still of the belief that he didn't expect everyone to drop so fast and do as well as he did so he's listening to much to his shitheel campaign advisors
I would have to believe that someone in politics for as long as he has been would be better prepared than he is for basically any line of questioning beyond "how awesome are you?"
Regardless of whether or not his advisers put him up to it, he's long lost all legitimacy. Socialism without inclusivity is a failure from day 1, and he hasn't even come close to implementing a single line of his promises. He's traded so hard on revolutionary rhetoric and socialist name recognition and betrayed everything that comes with it.
He could do the wildly improbable, beat Hillary, become President... and he would still be illegitimate as a socialist candidate. He saw one target demo and sold the rest of us out for a chance to be President once in his lifetime. Wherever he goes from here, he's a failure in my eyes.
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