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PoliGAF Interim Thread of Tears/Lapel Pins (ScratchingHisCheek-Gate)

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bob_arctor

Tough_Smooth
APF said:
Meh, we don't really know what he's going to run on, really. Running on Iraq as the major part of his platform would be a disaster however, given the fact that it's not the most important issue in voters' minds, and that if it were he'd be on the wrong side.

Nothing I've seen from him would suggest anything else. On the economy, he'd also be on the wrong side considering his desire to make the Bush tax cuts permanent and that he's admitted to not knowing much of anything, which could just be saying the same thing twice really.


Edit:

An AP-Ipsos poll taken in late February had Obama leading McCain 51-41 percent. The current survey, conducted April 7-9, had them at 45 percent each. McCain leads Obama among men, whites, Southerners, married women and independents.

Did they really need all those commas for the 1st three?
 

GhaleonEB

Member
Deus Ex Machina said:
Sounds like a response to me.
And it's a good one. I like that he specifically cites federal filings as a source. His first ad was accurate, Clinton issued an ad distorting reality, and this last one responded well. I just find it amusing to see a series of ads go back and forth like that.
 

Guileless

Temp Banned for Remedial Purposes
scorcho said:
cheering because it paints McCain in an even less positive light?

I think he means that 527s will be able to make ads along the lines of "Look! Neocons!" accompanied by spooky music.
 

scorcho

testicles on a cold fall morning
Guileless said:
I think he means that 527s will be able to make ads along the lines of "Look! Neocons!" accompanied by spooky music.
my legs are shaking already.

although that could be from the 3 cups of coffee i've had since noon.
 

Tamanon

Banned
CoolTrick said:
Which was in response to him snubbing other gay magazines in Pennsylvania and past primaries.

OK.

But he doesn't really do interviews with any specialist media.

Well outside of the widespread Muslim ones.
 

Guileless

Temp Banned for Remedial Purposes
This is how I would do it. The ad starts with Pres. Bush in the "Mission Accomplished" speech on the carrier. Then, his face slowly morphs into Sen. McCain's while the audio of Mccain singing "Bomb Iran" plays in the background. Then freeze on a closeup of McCain's face in an undignified sneer. Taps begins playing softly and the narrator intones: "John McCain and the neocons want to stay in Iraq for a hundred years. Do you?"
 

Tamanon

Banned
That mission accomplished sign will get a fair amount of play this fall I'm thinking. Especially since the pro-occupation group continually says we must finish the mission with "honor"
 
Guileless said:
This is how I would do it. The ad starts with Pres. Bush in the "Mission Accomplished" speech on the carrier. Then, his face slowly morphs into Sen. McCain's while the audio of Mccain singing "Bomb Iran" plays in the background. Then freeze on a closeup of McCain's face in an undignified sneer. Taps begins playing softly and the narrator intones: "John McCain and the neocons want to stay in Iraq for a hundred years. Do you?"

:lol
 

scorcho

testicles on a cold fall morning
i would insert this picture instead of morphing

although another effective ad could just be to truncate your suggestion and just use this -
mccain.jpg


with the narrator intoning - Do you really want this American to be your American President?
 
mckmas8808 said:
What did Condi say about race?

From the The Washington Times:

Rice hits U.S. 'birth defect'
By Nicholas Kralev
March 28, 2008


Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said yesterday that the United States still has trouble dealing with race because of a national "birth defect" that denied black Americans the opportunities given to whites at the country's very founding.

"Black Americans were a founding population," she said. "Africans and Europeans came here and founded this country together — Europeans by choice and Africans in chains. That's not a very pretty reality of our founding."

As a result, Miss Rice told editors and reporters at The Washington Times, "descendants of slaves did not get much of a head start, and I think you continue to see some of the effects of that."

"That particular birth defect makes it hard for us to confront it, hard for us to talk about it, and hard for us to realize that it has continuing relevance for who we are today," she said.

Audio
 

Tamanon

Banned
scorcho said:
i would insert this picture instead of morphing

although another effective ad could just be to truncate your suggestion and just use this -
mccain.jpg


with the narrator intoning - Do you really want this American to be your American President?


Oooh, add in the McCain/Bush hug and reference being a compassionate conservative!
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
AniHawk said:
I don't understand the break in the last week for Obama (from the Gallup polls). Did I miss something?


You missed statistical noise
 

VPhys

Member
Did anyone hear Colin's comments today?

I wish Powell was running for president, I'd pick him over anyone.


GAF: Is Colin Powell still the most respected political figure in America?
 

3rdman

Member
VPhys said:
Did anyone hear Colin's comments today?

I wish Powell was running for president, I'd pick him over anyone.


GAF: Is Colin Powell still the most respected political figure in America?
Heh, he lost all my respect when he willfully sold us the Iraq war to the UN. It may have been "Bush's War" to sell but Powell was the salesman.
 

AniHawk

Member
StopMakingSense said:
Inevitability. I think Hillary's campaign is fast approaching heat death.

:lol

Good to know though. Seems like we've been hearing more about how the math's against her and such.
 

maynerd

Banned
electricpirate said:
This is really really really good.

Yes I know...nobody seems to care though. :(

When I was listening to it I couldn't help but be pissed off beyond belief at these banks and how they are basically criminals as far as I'm concerned.
 
maynerd said:
Yes I know...nobody seems to care though. :(

When I was listening to it I couldn't help but be pissed off beyond belief at these banks and how they are basically criminals as far as I'm concerned.

And the fact that the guy who basically architected (or allowed wall street to architect this shadow market) is one of McCain's fucking economic advisors, and he want's less regulation. That's just awesome
for democratic candidates
 

maynerd

Banned
electricpirate said:
And the fact that the guy who basically architected (or allowed wall street to architect this shadow market) is one of McCain's fucking economic advisors, and he want's less regulation. That's just awesome
for democratic candidates

Yeah that was also quite interesting.
 
I wonder why the Clinton campaign isn't using William Ayers to attack Obama? You'd think that could possibly help her.

EDIT-O Reilly says Moveon.org helping to raise money for Obama is THE scariest thing he's ever seen! I shit you not! :lol :lol :lol
 

Tamanon

Banned
Jason's Ultimatum said:
I wonder why the Clinton campaign isn't using William Ayers to attack Obama? You'd think that could possibly help her.

Because Bill pardoned him and other Weathermen.

Plus, there's nothing really there.
 
Jason's Ultimatum said:
I wonder why the Clinton campaign isn't using William Ayers to attack Obama? You'd think that could possibly help her.

EDIT-O Reilly says Moveon.org helping to raise money for Obama is THE scariest thing he's ever seen! I shit you not! :lol :lol :lol

I'm sure we'll see "Obama is a terrorist" part 2 from Hannity tonight.
 

Amir0x

Banned
Jason's Ultimatum said:
I wonder why the Clinton campaign isn't using William Ayers to attack Obama? You'd think that could possibly help her.

EDIT-O Reilly says Moveon.org helping to raise money for Obama is THE scariest thing he's ever seen! I shit you not! :lol :lol :lol

The reason the Clinton's aren't bringing up the Ayers issue is because they are about a zillion trillion times more vulnerable on the subject than Obama is.

Because Bill Clinton pardoned major Weather Underground members Susan Rosenberg and Linda Sue Evans shortly before leaving office in 2001.

That's a TAD BIT WORSE than accepting donations from Ayers a few years ago.

Just a tad!
 
adamsappel said:
What was happening when this was taken?
He's probably fighting back a mini-stroke or heart attack. The dude's waaaay old and, so far in this campaign, the most unelectable Republican candidate in a long time.
 
Why did Bill pardon him? I mean reading this is a bit shocking:

I don't regret setting bombs. I feel we didn't do enough," Ayers told the New York Times in an interview released on Sept. 11, 2001

"Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon," Ayers wrote in his memoirs, titled "Fugitive Days." He continued with a disclaimer that he didn't personally set the bombs, but his group set the explosives and planned the attack
.

But I guess this isn't anything new. Bush did pardon Orlando Bosch.
 
maximum360 said:
I'm sure we'll see "Obama is a terrorist" part 2 from Hannity tonight.
It's insane that O'Reilly has an entire segment about "Swiftboating" which hasn't happened yet when in '04 he was one of the chief supporters of the group in giving them airtime. And besides that, he used the segment to "Swiftboat" Obama by implying he's a terrorist? What a piece of shit.
 

CoolTrick

Banned
That's a good policy in my opinion. Bill Clinton should take notes

I assume you were being facetious.

CNN's poll shows Clinton's lead as just 4% in PA, with 12% undecided. THIS IS MADNESS!!!

What was Obama's %?

I'm assuming it is still 43-44%.

In which case, Hillary is still leading by a pretty substantial amount. That's what that CNN poll shows.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Amir0x said:
The reason the Clinton's aren't bringing up the Ayers issue is because they are about a zillion trillion times more vulnerable on the subject than Obama is.

Because Bill Clinton pardoned major Weather Underground members Susan Rosenberg and Linda Sue Evans shortly before leaving office in 2001.

That's a TAD BIT WORSE than accepting donations from Ayers a few years ago.

Just a tad!

Don't worry! Hillary secretly opposed the pardons!
 
kkaabboomm said:
interesting update from chuck todd about MSNBC's super delegate numbers:

according to First Read, super numbers are 255-225 Clinton over Obama. This includes Dahlman from Montana, but does not include Campbell's rescinded endorsement.

This number does NOT include arkansas's add-on delegate that, while chosen a month ago, just now publicly endorsed Clinton, so that would put the differential at 31.

However, I emailed Chuck about the super-delegate add-ons that were chosen this weekend in Delaware, DC, Missouri, Florida (which currently don't count) and North Dakota. His response about why they haven't been added to MSNBC's official count:


(my bold emphasis added)

the information about where the following add-ons comes straight from demconwatch....

* DC's 2 super add-on's are one officially pro-Obama and endorsed, one verbally pro-Clinton but won't endorse as his district went 80% to Obama and he's waiting to make a decision.
* Delaware picked their one super add-on, who's role in the Obama campaign is one he considers 'a volunteer'. So that super delegate add-on vote will go to him...
* Missouri chose their 2 super add-on's, one who has publicly endorsed Obama, one who has indicated no preference.
* North Dakota picked their one super add-on, who is a senior aide in the Obama North Dakota office.

Overall, while demconwatch's numbers are more 'well sourced', I tend to trust MSNBC's numbers as they tend to have the most number of committed's for both sides. When/if they add these new add ons, and you consider Campbells 'retracted endorsement' as a vote, the new numbers would be:

257-229, a difference of 28.


And First Read/MSNBC has updated their supers with the add-ons:

New total - 260-230

After all that, both candidates have gained a net of 5 supers in the last 5 or 6 days. (clinton gained 6 according to MSNBC but lost one)
 

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Jason's Ultimatum said:
I wonder why the Clinton campaign isn't using William Ayers to attack Obama? You'd think that could possibly help her.

EDIT-O Reilly says Moveon.org helping to raise money for Obama is THE scariest thing he's ever seen! I shit you not! :lol :lol :lol

The Bill Ayers story is sooo far BS that it blows my mind. It's a huge stretch of a story.
 

SRG01

Member
mckmas8808 said:
WOW!!! Condi sounds like Obama here spitting that good truth. I where what the republicans think of this interview with Condi?

Condi is smart. As much of a neo-con as she is, she would be more suitable to be the first female president over Hillary.
 
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