shiftplusone
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number of mario karts vs number of real cars was a graph that would have taken too much work
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[Polygon] Mario Kart 8 likely to be the worst-selling game in... what is that chart
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number of mario karts vs number of real cars was a graph that would have taken too much work
Laieon
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I feel like y'all are trying to make this something it isn't, just because it's coming out of Polygon.
All the article is saying is that the Nintendo has currently sold 6.17 million Wii U's, and they expect to sell another 3.6 million by the end of March 2015 (and as we all know, Nintendo's predictions haven't exactly been on spot lately, but that's an entirely different subject), bringing the total up to 9.77 million. If we look at history, the attach rate has been something like 20%, which means that it's a pretty safe guess that it will sell around 2 million copies by the end of March 2015 unless sales of the console pick up. They're using Nintendo's own figures to come up with that estimate.
They aren't saying the game is bad, in fact, they seemed to like it judging by the fact that they gave it a 9/10.
I actually found this article interesting, simply because it really does put into perspective how terrible the Wii U is doing.
They're legitimately my favorite, much better than anything else out there as far as gaming news sites go imo (I really don't understand what GAF sees in Giantbomb, they do nothing for me). I do with wish they would release more long form articles though, the one they put out about the history of Xbox Live was excellent.
It always makes me laugh when GAF seems to go off on them though. If you don't like them, why continue giving them traffic?
All the article is saying is that the Nintendo has currently sold 6.17 million Wii U's, and they expect to sell another 3.6 million by the end of March 2015 (and as we all know, Nintendo's predictions haven't exactly been on spot lately, but that's an entirely different subject), bringing the total up to 9.77 million. If we look at history, the attach rate has been something like 20%, which means that it's a pretty safe guess that it will sell around 2 million copies by the end of March 2015 unless sales of the console pick up. They're using Nintendo's own figures to come up with that estimate.
They aren't saying the game is bad, in fact, they seemed to like it judging by the fact that they gave it a 9/10.
I actually found this article interesting, simply because it really does put into perspective how terrible the Wii U is doing.
They're legitimately my favorite, much better than anything else out there as far as gaming news sites go imo (I really don't understand what GAF sees in Giantbomb, they do nothing for me). I do with wish they would release more long form articles though, the one they put out about the history of Xbox Live was excellent.
It always makes me laugh when GAF seems to go off on them though. If you don't like them, why continue giving them traffic?
Maybe to mock them.
You need to drink more water then.
It might do more then double dash by the end of the Wii U's life cycle.
Haha, what indeed.
highoffcoffee496
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Pretty much this.
That just seems obvious to me. Mariokart usually sells a shit-tonne and it's no secret that the Wii U is going to affect sales considering just about everyone had a Wii when MKWii hit. It could still do pretty well and move Wii U's, though.
Good to see Polygon are putting a lot of necessary research to just say that, though.
Good to see Polygon are putting a lot of necessary research to just say that, though.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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From Ben's Twitter: "Mario Kart 8 Will Be The Worst Selling Game In Kart History"
Headline title: "Mario Kart 8 likely to be the worst-selling game in its history"
Article body: "If every current Wii U owner bought the next installment, Mario Kart 8, it would still be the second-worst selling game in franchise history."
Well which one is it, make up your mind.
Holy shit, this is some buzzfeed level garbage
EDIT: Actually, its worse. Buzzfeed would probably say "This Estimate Of Mario Kart 8's Potential Sales Will Shock You"
Yeah, and as said before, the 3DS had only done 6.68m two months before MK7. The figure we have for Wii U is two months before MK8. Not saying it'll cause the Wii U to sell like the 3DS did, but it's illogical for Polygon to have excluded these facts...
lol, I wish I could give you some ad revenue for that comment
MoogleWizard
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'A lot of research clearly went into this article!'
*cites banned site with made up bs numbers as source*
Wow such research, many professional etc.
*cites banned site with made up bs numbers as source*
Wow such research, many professional etc.
LordOcidax
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What that mean?. MK8 is going to sell bad. Don't buy it. oh God.. Polygon
PhoenixDawn
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Even though it's pretty likely MK8 will be the worst selling given the Wii U's install base, I still feel it will sell reasonably well. The series has amazingly long legs when it comes to having long-lasting sustained sales. Hell, the Wii has been completely dead for almost two years now but MKWii still sold ~1 million last year, I believe. Obviously that's a much larger userbase but it shows the game can still have sustained sales throughout the life the platform, which for the Wii U may be admittedly short.
What the hell is the point of this article? Did anybody not think that this will be the case with the Wii U's sales how they are?
Seems like they actually wanted to write another nintendoomed article about how shitty the Wii U's sales are and how bad Nintendo's profits are, and just disguised it as some kind of analysis of Mario Kart sales.
Seems like they actually wanted to write another nintendoomed article about how shitty the Wii U's sales are and how bad Nintendo's profits are, and just disguised it as some kind of analysis of Mario Kart sales.
Smiles and Cries
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I think it has more to do with how you ban sites here by keyword.url
imagine banning polygon as a keyword on a video game site
they are safe
The Abominable Snowman
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Super Mario 3D World had a much higher attach rate than many previous Marios. Why can't MK8 be the same?
Magicpaint
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What do you mean 'even that DS Mario 64 port'? That game handily outsold Sunshine (10m vs 5m).
StreetsAhead
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Please tell me this is not a real graph. I really, really don't want to believe they are so fucking stupid.
prag16
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The amount of research doesn't necessarily have a positive correlation with actual usefulness/insightfulness/worthwhileness of the article.
The amount of research doesn't necessarily have a negative correlation with the degree to which it can be described as clickbait.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
That's some truly amazing mathematical calculation modelling and analysis. Three dimensional differential equations seem so easy in comparison to this.
What the heck kind of pie graph is this supposed to be?
I haven't read the article, but I'm guessing they are comparing the Mario Kart sales to units of hardware sold.
You can then, very roughly, average out the number of Mario Kart copies sold to consumers over the lifetime of Nintendo consoles. Then, compare that to the number of WiiU consoles in circulation to get an incredibly rough estimate to the amount of sales.
There is a wide, wide margin of error associated with this method of course.
Principate
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Umm this game likely wouldn't be reviewing so well if they rushed it out the door.
I'm sure it will, I was just following the dodgy logic from Polygon. What I don't understand is why the brilliant mind of the writer mixed console games with handheld games, the latter sells historically less (considering the attach rate). It doesn't make any sense to look at console and handheld games when you try to project a number for the next console game.
Boy Wander
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How much research does stating the bleedin obvious require these days?
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qizah
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I think this is the worst video game article I've read in quite some time. The guy completely ignores the fact that for Mario Kart, long term sales have always been key, not immediate sales. There's a reason why the sales of the last few games have been so high.
POWERSPHERE
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A click on that link is a click against the right way to live.
Petrae
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Eventually, the doom & gloom articles take their toll. If "experts" continually write about a console in a negative light, consumers will see them and quite possibly not buy the console because it's "dead", "in trouble ", or other associations of weakness.
Just this week alone, I've read two "WiiU is dead" articles (one from Polygon) and now this declaration about how poorly Mario Kart is going to sell.
As a consumer, these articles instill zero confidence in the platform and steer me towards not buying it. I mean... if it's practically dead already-- or soon will be-- why would I bother?
Just this week alone, I've read two "WiiU is dead" articles (one from Polygon) and now this declaration about how poorly Mario Kart is going to sell.
As a consumer, these articles instill zero confidence in the platform and steer me towards not buying it. I mean... if it's practically dead already-- or soon will be-- why would I bother?
Yep, a pity.
2spooky4me
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Polygon is raising the bar for game journalists everywhere. Bravo.
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It's pretty obvious what he's attempting to do. It's fact he has no idea how to competently do it (percentages on graphs man they work!) and the fact his data is all poorly researched, just makes this a hack level graph. I could do better in high school and I'm not joking.
This guy is paid for this shit.
Jimmyfenix
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So apparently a user got this warning message.
shiftplusone
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Let me show you how much hardwork went into this article, you people need to quit being dicks
English majors don't generally get that much Math exposure and Polygon isn't exactly known for their educated and informed journalists.
Let me show you how much hardwork went into this article, you people need to quit being dicks
Would have been better as a venn diagram.
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