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Possible Kojima Productions Reveal in Three Days?
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I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Orlics said:
I played the entire series for the first time last month and agree with your gameplay list. 4 is the best, 2 is quick and fluid, 3 is technically better than 2 but it's a bit too slowpaced with all the menu flipping for camo/food. MGS1 sucks, I hate that game.
Plotwise though it's by far MGS3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>anything else
3 was a masterpiece. 1 is..ok..2 is ridiculous and 4 has the burden of cleaning up 2's mess.
GeneralIroh
Member
Despite all the menus, Mgs3 gains the major advantage of being more open and having more variety. The boss battles in mgs3 are leagues ahead of the battles in mgs2.Solo said:
Mgs3 also offers levels that are more varied, fun and organic .
MGS2's levels are all sterile.
what was the best boss battle in MGS2 anyway?
Olga was ok
Vamp was ok
Fortune wasn't even a battle
the
were a gundam game or something anime as far as I was concerned
The Doc Octapus guy was a sort of bad ninja gaiden
the mad bomber guy I guess was pretty good
the harrier jet was ok
am I missing one?
the boss battle music was so lame
Olga was ok
Vamp was ok
Fortune wasn't even a battle
the
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The Doc Octapus guy was a sort of bad ninja gaiden
the mad bomber guy I guess was pretty good
the harrier jet was ok
am I missing one?
the boss battle music was so lame
EmCeeGramr
Member
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
MGS2's bosses were really lackluster after MGS1, but I like that there weren't that many. Even though I love 3, there's a bit too many boss battles and the last fight is really dragged out. Still the best MGS2 boss fight is probably Solidus.
Turk
Member
When does the KP report usually go up. The next one is schedueled for 5-28
http://www.kjp.konami.jp/gs/hideoblog_e/
Maybe Eyestone will spill some beans.
http://www.kjp.konami.jp/gs/hideoblog_e/
Maybe Eyestone will spill some beans.
Charmicarmicat
Banned
Turk said:
Same here, havent played it for a few months but picked it up again today for what is probably the 8th time, and found a new little tidbit on the first level that I've never seen before.
POWERSPHERE
Member
So is this shit over yet?
Turk
Member
Is there still a countdown on this page:666 said:
http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/next/index.html
?!?!
POWERSPHERE
Member
Turk said:
I don't care THAT much.
MiamiWesker
Member
Solo said:
No, MGS3 is MGS2 gameplay actually opened up so that first person aiming his useful. Enclosed spaces was not the best for that. The open areas alone make the gameplay in MGS3 far better than MGS2, factor in camo and CQC and all the crap you can do with radios and animals and I think its clear that MGS3 offered so much more. Not to mention way better boss fights.
NinjaCodah
Member
I love all MGS games equally
traynuvthawt
Banned
So I must've completely missed the discussion/speculation about this: http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3174400
I probably missed anything that was said while wading through the gobs of shit that is the mgs4 hate in this thread.
I probably missed anything that was said while wading through the gobs of shit that is the mgs4 hate in this thread.
infinityBCRT
Member
you win this threadNinjaCodah said:
Honestly, there are those who heavily favour MGS3 and those who heavily favour MGS2 but some of the rhetoric thats spewed in these arguments are ridiculous. If you need to call people names because they don't like the game you like you have problems.
MiamiWesker
Member
Seeing that some are doing rankings, I have not changed my mind, MGS4 is my favorite one. Yeah the story is a freaking mess, but I have always played the MGS series for the gameplay, every game I have played many many times over and I almost always skip all the cutscenes.
MGS4s gameplay is MGS3s gameplay perfected. The game itself had elements of all MGS games rolled up into one. The entire game was basically one giant love letter to the entire series.
MGS3 to me still had the best story and the best boss fights, it might as well be tied with MGS4 with me, I love them both very much.
My order is MGS4>MGS3>MGS1>MGS2>MG2>MG:GB>MG1 (never played Portable Ops)
MGS4s gameplay is MGS3s gameplay perfected. The game itself had elements of all MGS games rolled up into one. The entire game was basically one giant love letter to the entire series.
MGS3 to me still had the best story and the best boss fights, it might as well be tied with MGS4 with me, I love them both very much.
My order is MGS4>MGS3>MGS1>MGS2>MG2>MG:GB>MG1 (never played Portable Ops)
infinityBCRT
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hmmm... maybe its a retcon of MG1 and Snake sneaks in disguised as Big Boss?Turk said:"The way he has his [censored] on is a bit different," Kojima commented
It's his hat.
damn you Kojima :lol
For me, the rankings go: MGS4 > MGS2 > MGS1 >>> MGS3 (the only game where I truly felt let down)
I like Kojima's crazy stories and I've always found the themes he raised in MGS2 and 4 to be extremely interesting, so MGS3 being very light on plot (and thematically cliched) was disappointing to me. And as Solo said, while the additions to the gameplay were very cool in concept, they were too bogged down in menus. The camo system was handled far better in MGS4. I think I might have liked the gameplay in MGS3 more if I actually got to the fight The End. I accidentally killed him early on in the game. :lol
What mystery? We found out in MGS2 that the Wisemen Committee was a hoax and that they had been dead for about 100 years, and it's MGS3 that reveals that the wisemen were actually the original founders of the Philosophers. Their "mystery" was solved by the time MGS4 came out.
I like Kojima's crazy stories and I've always found the themes he raised in MGS2 and 4 to be extremely interesting, so MGS3 being very light on plot (and thematically cliched) was disappointing to me. And as Solo said, while the additions to the gameplay were very cool in concept, they were too bogged down in menus. The camo system was handled far better in MGS4. I think I might have liked the gameplay in MGS3 more if I actually got to the fight The End. I accidentally killed him early on in the game. :lol
SMZC said:Well, you can pretty much say "Patriots" instead of Zero, and the point would remain. I mean... Zero the founder of the Patriots? After all the mystery from MGS2 regarding the Wisemen Committee, the Patriots end up being just a bunch of secondary, forgettable characters from MGS3? Really, Kojima? Really?
What mystery? We found out in MGS2 that the Wisemen Committee was a hoax and that they had been dead for about 100 years, and it's MGS3 that reveals that the wisemen were actually the original founders of the Philosophers. Their "mystery" was solved by the time MGS4 came out.
distantmantra
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plasmasd said:
What?
Zombie James
Banned
plasmasd said:
Whatever this is, it sounds damn good.
SolidSnakex
Member
I call fake because it makes no sense. This guy is an unknown, gets hired to compose at least one track for the next MG, and decides to post the song on the net before the game is even announced?
Turk
Member
Anyone know is the script has changed? Wouldn't the curret countdown end 6-1 not 5-30? Also isn't Konami's Press event June 3rd?
Teaser flash update.
Backgrounds
Past:
http://dl.konami.jp/kojima_pro/next/img/eae.swf - No Longer working
http://dl.konami.jp/kojima_pro/next/img/eah.swf - Flashing clouds
http://dl.konami.jp/kojima_pro/next/img/ebb.swf - Thunder and Light Rain
Current:
http://dl.konami.jp/kojima_pro/next/img/ebg.swf - Thunder and Heavy Rain
Future?:
http://dl.konami.jp/kojima_pro/next/img/ebi.swf
http://dl.konami.jp/kojima_pro/next/img/fa.swf
Letters / Character
Past:
http://dl.konami.jp/kojima_pro/next/img/key_eah.swf - (S or 5)
http://dl.konami.jp/kojima_pro/next/img/key_ebb.swf - (E S 3 e)
Current:
http://dl.konami.jp/kojima_pro/next/img/key_ebg.swf - (S E 3 e P R)
Future?:
http://dl.konami.jp/kojima_pro/next/img/key_ebi.swf
http://dl.konami.jp/kojima_pro/next/img/key_fa.swf
The coutdown
5/18 - Done
5/22 - Done
5/27 - Done
5/30 - ???? (Ninja??)
6/1
filename = the date of reveal
eah = 5(e) / 10(a) + 8(h)
ebb = 5(e) / 20(b) + 2(b)
ebg = 5(e) / 20(b) + 7(g)
ebi = 5(e) / 20(b) + 10(i)
fa = 6(f) / 1(a)
Teaser flash update.
Backgrounds
Past:
http://dl.konami.jp/kojima_pro/next/img/eae.swf - No Longer working
http://dl.konami.jp/kojima_pro/next/img/eah.swf - Flashing clouds
http://dl.konami.jp/kojima_pro/next/img/ebb.swf - Thunder and Light Rain
Current:
http://dl.konami.jp/kojima_pro/next/img/ebg.swf - Thunder and Heavy Rain
Future?:
http://dl.konami.jp/kojima_pro/next/img/ebi.swf
http://dl.konami.jp/kojima_pro/next/img/fa.swf
Letters / Character
Past:
http://dl.konami.jp/kojima_pro/next/img/key_eah.swf - (S or 5)
http://dl.konami.jp/kojima_pro/next/img/key_ebb.swf - (E S 3 e)
Current:
http://dl.konami.jp/kojima_pro/next/img/key_ebg.swf - (S E 3 e P R)
Future?:
http://dl.konami.jp/kojima_pro/next/img/key_ebi.swf
http://dl.konami.jp/kojima_pro/next/img/key_fa.swf
The coutdown
5/18 - Done
5/22 - Done
5/27 - Done
5/30 - ???? (Ninja??)
6/1
filename = the date of reveal
eah = 5(e) / 10(a) + 8(h)
ebb = 5(e) / 20(b) + 2(b)
ebg = 5(e) / 20(b) + 7(g)
ebi = 5(e) / 20(b) + 10(i)
fa = 6(f) / 1(a)
IrrelevantNotch
Banned
worldrevolution said:
This man speaks the truth
Zombie James
Banned
Blader5489 said:
I like the idea, but I don't think Big Boss actually did anything in either of those besides the final battles.
Zombie James
Banned
WinFonda said:
Looks nothing like Otacon. And Otacon's a nerd, I can't even picture the guy holding a gun.
Ether_Snake
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Turk said:"The way he has his [censored] on is a bit different," Kojima commented
It's his hat.
My guess is precisely this: Big Boss is no longer in Foxhound, it's his mercenary days before getting the idea of creating Outer Heaven, and for some reason he's with some French people and started this Militaires Sans Frontières group. He will return to Foxhound later.
But that Raiden dude can't be Gray Fox. Fox is supposed to be older than Solid Snake (heck, he's already 16 or so in MPO), and he was certainly in his 40s in MG2.
But whatever.
I think here he means that he won't work on a sequel to MGS, it's already being made anyway, but he's not on that. But he is working on the prequel
this thread is a mess.
anyhow.
http://www.onelastcontinue.com/7599/new-metal-gear-news-in-next-weeks-famitsu-ps3/
seems like a sony console bound title. ... Famitsu PSP + PS3.....
anyhow.
http://www.onelastcontinue.com/7599/new-metal-gear-news-in-next-weeks-famitsu-ps3/
seems like a sony console bound title. ... Famitsu PSP + PS3.....
It could pass as Otacon easily aged about 5-10 years. But look at his hair. The way it doves is quite similar._leech_ said:
And this is another thing
WinFonda said:
Just from the interview alone you can tell Kojima is hinting at the character(s) not being who you think they are.
Ether_Snake
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He's just not confirming who they are because it would tell us outright what the game is. It's Big Boss for sure. The ninja I don't know.
EmCeeGramr
Member
WinFonda said:
Seriously. I remember being amazed when the "Snake" in MGS3 turned out NOT to be a young Big Boss, and "Old Snake" turned out to be a completely different character than Solid Snake. Kojima, you can't trust him about anything!!!