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Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 - The Official Thread
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Oh btw, if people wonder why no reviews have focused on the online part yet, then it's not because the servers aren't up. The review copies just can't be played online. It says "this version is incompatible".
Btw, I'm positive on PES 2010, having played even more games. I shot a cracker with Kaká from long distance, it hit the bar, went down just outside the goal line and Benzema poached it in. And the net is beautiful, simply stunning when the ball rolls up on it, much better than in 2009.
Btw, I'm positive on PES 2010, having played even more games. I shot a cracker with Kaká from long distance, it hit the bar, went down just outside the goal line and Benzema poached it in. And the net is beautiful, simply stunning when the ball rolls up on it, much better than in 2009.
Did I ever say that? I don't remember, honestly. I was mostly banging on the game before I tried the demo.Letters said:
They're both great games anyway. I'm only going back to PES because they finally re-did the animations (and I greatly dispise EA's efforts since they can have 10 different animations for the same thing, but then 8 of those suck and look unrealistic. FIFA 08 still looks better in motion.) and FIFA is crap as far as Portuguese teams go, you can't even recognize any of the players. Just a bunch of random models slapped together.
dermannmitdemcolt
Member
I really wanted to like this one (couldn't really get into Fifa 10) but there is still so much wrong with it. I quick rundown after two days with the PC version:
+ the graphics. They really nailed them this time. The player models, the pitch textures, the lightning - everything looks just right and hugely superior to Fifa 10
+ the presentation is great too (another point where Fifa utterly fails)
+ player individuality - still the most important advantage over Fifa
+ ML looks kick ass
+ shooting feels good
- the animations. OMG, they are so, so bad. Even PES6 still looks more natural and organic than this crap. Where is the mo-cap? I can't see it.
- the game is still way too fast.
- passing is completely scripted and just doesn't feel right. The ball moves too fast and feels too light. The pinball feeling is still there and it really hurts the game.
- Playing on top level, every AI opponent plays highspeed one-touch football a la Arsenal, even if you're playing against Heart of Midlothian. So bad. This completely destroys the singleplayer experience.
+ the graphics. They really nailed them this time. The player models, the pitch textures, the lightning - everything looks just right and hugely superior to Fifa 10
+ the presentation is great too (another point where Fifa utterly fails)
+ player individuality - still the most important advantage over Fifa
+ ML looks kick ass
+ shooting feels good
- the animations. OMG, they are so, so bad. Even PES6 still looks more natural and organic than this crap. Where is the mo-cap? I can't see it.
- the game is still way too fast.
- passing is completely scripted and just doesn't feel right. The ball moves too fast and feels too light. The pinball feeling is still there and it really hurts the game.
- Playing on top level, every AI opponent plays highspeed one-touch football a la Arsenal, even if you're playing against Heart of Midlothian. So bad. This completely destroys the singleplayer experience.
Anastacio said:
I havent gotten my retail copy yet, but that was exactly what I was impressed by from the demo.
While the older PES had the arrow system, there was really no way you can have complete control over how the team as a whole coordinate with one another. Having both card system and the sliders give you so many way to fully control and combine different tactics down to each player. It is exactly because of this new system that plays such as holding the ball and using defenders to build up the play is now actually something that can be precisely implemented on the fly during the match.
International shipping ftl, I wish I can play it tonight.
jts
...hate me...
Got it like 6:30 hours ago, midnight launch
It's pretty awesome, I mean, it's really not that different from the demo, not on my eyes. But maybe a bit more responsive, yeah.
Just won an EPIC Champions League with FC Porto on hardest difficulty with injuries and accumulated fatigue on. Shit, how epic it was. After being beaten twice by Barcelona on the group stage (2-4; 1-0) and even struggling to defeat Uneria or whatever it's called, I got Barcelona on the first knock-out stage (STUPID, I know, Konami should get its shit straight if they wanna wave the Champions League flag) and totally kicked their asses! Twice! 3-0 at home an 1-0 at Camp Nou. Then I beat Inter, Milan and finally Real Madrid on their own home, the final was very cool because it had that whole Madrid 2010... thing, marketing stuff, logos and shit (I really don't know how to call that in english). 2-1
Other than that, I don't know man. Soundtrack is awesome but it has custom soundtrack again
I miss stuff from older Pro Evos like training challenges and stuff, but yeah no point beating that dead horse.
Custom tournament/league seems to be missing though! Fuck. It's the first time, isn't it? I can almost swear 2009 has it, even if less customizable than it was in the older days, and again I don't see the point of dropping features but hey it's their game.
I didn't touch Become a Legend or Master League (and won't so soon) but can't wait.
Online isn't working at the moment, at least for me.
All in all, seems to be a great PES with a pacing that we hadn't seen since PES 5. It can be a bit frustrating. You must think fast and can't expect running in circles with the ball without losing it. The midfield is tougher to play on. Currently I'm exploiting the wings as my main source for goals.
I'm a bit pissed that you can't manual pass on long free kicks. What's up with that?
The AI sometimes is stupid. It is. Sometimes you'll see 2 players on the CPU team not being aware of each other and shooting the ball against each other. The goalkeepers seem to be a bit better than in the demo, but in 15 matches I've played I've seen a couple of really stupid mistakes. I suffered a goal against Barcelona in which Ibra was one on one with the keeper and the stupid little fellow went to the side he was coming from, completely uncovering the goal.
Presentation. Can't say I'm a fan of this new method of going into a match in which visiting team formations, picking kits, stadiums and stuff is completely optional. I'm sure there will be plenty of moments between friends that will go like "shit, I wanted to take Ronaldo out" or some shit like that and you'll have to go all the way back to the main menu.
Anyway, great game, return to the roots and all that, gotta love getting trophies on PES, etc. Recommended
Cheers!
JustAnotherOtaku
Member
For those with the full game, what difficulty are you playing on? I always initially start a new Pro Evo on regular, so that I can get used to the changes etc. Played a couple on professional level and found it better but wanted to stick to regular while playing my first Champions League.
Anyway, I'm being Man United. Drew 0-0 with Fiorentina in the first match which was fair, then beat Celtic 3-0, Sparta Prague 6-1 and then again 4-0. Even with accumulated fatigue it seems a little easy, moreso than my early previous Pro Evo experiences anyway.
Not sure now whether to start my ML on regular or professional. Pretty sure I'll stick to regular since the original ML team is always shit (even if it is all the old favourites like Castollo, Minanda etc ) but would like to hear what others did.
Anyway, I'm being Man United. Drew 0-0 with Fiorentina in the first match which was fair, then beat Celtic 3-0, Sparta Prague 6-1 and then again 4-0. Even with accumulated fatigue it seems a little easy, moreso than my early previous Pro Evo experiences anyway.
Not sure now whether to start my ML on regular or professional. Pretty sure I'll stick to regular since the original ML team is always shit (even if it is all the old favourites like Castollo, Minanda etc
) but would like to hear what others did.JustAnotherOtaku
Member
jts said:gotta love getting trophies on PES, etc. Recommended
Heh agreed! I enjoy getting trophies in games but am never too obsessive over getting 100% of them. However, with the amount of hours me and my bro put into Pro Evo games, (close to 300 hours in Pro Evo 09) I'm pretty sure I can platinum this
JustAnotherOtaku said:Heh agreed! I enjoy getting trophies in games but am never too obsessive over getting 100% of them. However, with the amount of hours me and my bro put into Pro Evo games, (close to 300 hours in Pro Evo 09) I'm pretty sure I can platinum this
Unless they make people play through all the cup modes. What a hassle, even to unclock the classic teams/players....
I have been playing Pro Evolution Soccer for more than a decade, every year now. And in all games I have started on the hardest difficulty but then came PES 2010 and for the first time I witnessed it was hard playing against the CPU, so I changed it to **** star difficulty, now I can play on the hardest again.JustAnotherOtaku said:For those with the full game, what difficulty are you playing on? I always initially start a new Pro Evo on regular, so that I can get used to the changes etc. Played a couple on professional level and found it better but wanted to stick to regular while playing my first Champions League.
Anyway, I'm being Man United. Drew 0-0 with Fiorentina in the first match which was fair, then beat Celtic 3-0, Sparta Prague 6-1 and then again 4-0. Even with accumulated fatigue it seems a little easy, moreso than my early previous Pro Evo experiences anyway.
Not sure now whether to start my ML on regular or professional. Pretty sure I'll stick to regular since the original ML team is always shit (even if it is all the old favourites like Castollo, Minanda etc
Gonna play the Champions League mode again to see what all the Madrid logo/marketing stuff in the final is about. =)
Oh, I just reviewed the game today as well, giving it an 8/10.
JustAnotherOtaku
Member
Anastacio said:
Yeah same with me. Started with ISS Pro on the Playstation and have been hooked ever since
Played a European Cup and now a Champions League on Professional (**** star) and it's much better. Not to sure about the changes to the penalties just yet though.
Another week for me .
But in the mean time I'm gonna get a memory card off Ebay so I can transfer the kits to PES. (Hopefully the user kits are out by next week)
Also, here is a post of mine on another forum, regarding FIFA 10. People say its time to leave PES behind and go to FIFA. For me, since FIFA 08, it was about leaving FIFA behind and coming back to PES.
.But in the mean time I'm gonna get a memory card off Ebay so I can transfer the kits to PES. (Hopefully the user kits are out by next week)
Also, here is a post of mine on another forum, regarding FIFA 10. People say its time to leave PES behind and go to FIFA. For me, since FIFA 08, it was about leaving FIFA behind and coming back to PES.
Moe Joe said:
Gamecocks625
Member
PSP screens thanks to PESfan:
if this isn't on PSN for PSPgo, I'll scream
Pretty much in the same boat with Moe Joe in terms of what FIFA 10 is. By the end of my maiden season in Manager Mode I was kinda sick of letting in stupid goals because my goalkeeper and defenders were retarded, and I was tired of trying the same formulas to score goals.
At least with my several years of experience in PES, I never had to really use the same method over and over. There were times when my greatest goals were scored from an in-field cross, or from a corner, or from a howling kick from outside the box, or through a skillful through-pass that started from my defenders. There were flashes of that in FIFA 10 but most often than not I was scoring goals through a ping-pong style of gameplay where passing the ball around as quickly as possible was the key to opening up holes.
At least with my several years of experience in PES, I never had to really use the same method over and over. There were times when my greatest goals were scored from an in-field cross, or from a corner, or from a howling kick from outside the box, or through a skillful through-pass that started from my defenders. There were flashes of that in FIFA 10 but most often than not I was scoring goals through a ping-pong style of gameplay where passing the ball around as quickly as possible was the key to opening up holes.
Melfice7
Member
Just got the game, did 1 friendly match and got 3 trophies
theres a lot of out of date transfers and so many underrated players on the middle/lower teams sigh Konami needs better info ffs i remember for example Deco and R. Carvalho being absolute crap but as soon they moved to chelsea and barça their stats went up like 500% -.-
theres a lot of out of date transfers and so many underrated players on the middle/lower teams sigh Konami needs better info ffs i remember for example Deco and R. Carvalho being absolute crap but as soon they moved to chelsea and barça their stats went up like 500% -.-
mr_sockochris
Member
Loving this game to bits
Just played 3 games online.....
Game 1 = 3v1, ran pretty much perfect. It was 2 on one Xbox plus another guy verses me so technically 3 Xbox's were connected to this game.
Game 2 = 2v2, a bit jerky at times but no worse than FIFA can get.
Game 3 = 1v1, the least smooth of the three games but still very much playable. It's worth nothing the opponent had a red connection (which I intentially wanted to play to experiment) so if this is as bad as it gets I can't complain.
On a related note, I've finished my Spurs and Arsenal kits. 360 editing takes forever but I think the results were well worth it -
Just played 3 games online.....
Game 1 = 3v1, ran pretty much perfect. It was 2 on one Xbox plus another guy verses me so technically 3 Xbox's were connected to this game.
Game 2 = 2v2, a bit jerky at times but no worse than FIFA can get.
Game 3 = 1v1, the least smooth of the three games but still very much playable. It's worth nothing the opponent had a red connection (which I intentially wanted to play to experiment) so if this is as bad as it gets I can't complain.
On a related note, I've finished my Spurs and Arsenal kits. 360 editing takes forever but I think the results were well worth it -
mr_sockochris said:Loving this game to bits
Just played 3 games online.....
Game 1 = 3v1, ran pretty much perfect. It was 2 on one Xbox plus another guy verses me so technically 3 Xbox's were connected to this game.
Game 2 = 2v2, a bit jerky at times but no worse than FIFA can get.
Game 3 = 1v1, the least smooth of the three games but still very much playable. It's worth nothing the opponent had a red connection (which I intentially wanted to play to experiment) so if this is as bad as it gets I can't complain.
On a related note, I've finished my Spurs and Arsenal kits. 360 editing takes forever but I think the results were well worth it -
Nice, this game looks graphically better than I imagined.
iamcool388
Member
Can the kits and updated rosters (stats?) be downloaded from fan sites or will I have to do it manually?
lochnesssnowman
Member
Got my game! Happy days. Played the demo loads so just starting off on top player. I got really into the demo on top player, some great matches. I've been buying PES on the 360 but this is the PS3 version, so the controller is taking a little time to get used to (does anyone use those trigger things for the L2/R2 buttons - do they help?). It's playing really well so far, loving it.
JustAnotherOtaku
Member
Playing more of my Milan Champions League on Professional and this is definitely the way to go for me. Won 3 of my group games, drew one and lost two when I played an understrength team. Wisla Krakow came back to draw 2-2 at the San Siro and 0-0 away so through on away goals
Also played my first online match. I'm in the UK and it was against a guy from Italy. Was a little laggy, but playable nonetheless. Drew 1-1
Also played my first online match. I'm in the UK and it was against a guy from Italy. Was a little laggy, but playable nonetheless. Drew 1-1
lochnesssnowman
Member
Initial verdict: Best PES in years. Certainly out of the HD versions. Playing top player is resulting in some amazing, classic matches for me without any of the frustration that I've felt at that level in recent editions. Shooting is miles and miles better. Leaps and bounds on from the demo as well (cards on table: I really enjoyed the demo, though it took me a while to do so. I think it seems to click once you can compete at top player for me).
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Fersis said:
Francesco Totti used to wait to get Winning Eleven JLeague and then Final, patched in with translation and the irght kits and chants and play it religiously and was even "caught" playing WE at home when some talk show cameras visited him few years ago... problem is that at the time he was a FIFA cover player :lol
He also stated to have played the game every fucking night during Germany 2006.
I want to play NAO, run postman run!
FeedTheYak
Member
Got it yesterday and played alot against the cpu and was glad I bought it, but spent this night playing with friends using the community mode collecting stats against each player and now love it
The online multiplayer mode is much better than last year and works great. Played a couple online matches yesterday: first match went smooth as silk and had no lag. Second match had a little lag, but it wasn't a big problem and the game still played fine. All in all a big improvement over last year's edition. I played the Xbox 360 version on Xbox Live by the way.
Playing a bit at work right now and I'm probably picking this up and selling FIFA 10.
FIFA 10 makes a great first impression, but after playing for a few weeks I've grown sick of it. It has the same problem a lot of FIFA's had in the past, you're scoring the same types of goals over and over again. It gets boring. PES may be not as good on a technical level, but I find I'm enjoying it a lot more.
FIFA 10 makes a great first impression, but after playing for a few weeks I've grown sick of it. It has the same problem a lot of FIFA's had in the past, you're scoring the same types of goals over and over again. It gets boring. PES may be not as good on a technical level, but I find I'm enjoying it a lot more.
Got it from a shop just now. Already downloading a patch but its going quick, from 0 to twenty percent in writing these two sentences I think.
I haven't bought a game from a shop in a long time, and since I haven't played the game, I think I might as well talk about what I saw in the shop. For those of you that care, take it with a pinch of salt I guess...
I know it doesn't mean much, play it on whatever platform you like but the game store had all their copies out front and it seemed like the ps3 pile was smaller then the x360 pile.. wwe smackdown was there as well and that story was similiar. On their charts their had uc2 at no.1, pes no.2 and smackdown no.3 on the ps3 charts.
...
playing champions league, not all teams are featured...
but that was to be expected...
I haven't bought a game from a shop in a long time, and since I haven't played the game, I think I might as well talk about what I saw in the shop. For those of you that care, take it with a pinch of salt I guess...
I know it doesn't mean much, play it on whatever platform you like but the game store had all their copies out front and it seemed like the ps3 pile was smaller then the x360 pile.. wwe smackdown was there as well and that story was similiar. On their charts their had uc2 at no.1, pes no.2 and smackdown no.3 on the ps3 charts.
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playing champions league, not all teams are featured...
but that was to be expected...one of the problems in the demo was that the a.i. full backs would leave the wings completely unmarked, because they'd mostly look at the ball instead of their direct opponent. so if you were playing 4-3-3, you could pass around the ball a bit in the centre of the field and then eventually pass it to one of your wingers, who'd be able to easily dribble towards the goal.
did they fix that?
this was on the hardest difficulty level, btw.
did they fix that?
this was on the hardest difficulty level, btw.
Winterblink
Member
Playing footy, obviouslyGrampasso said:
JustAnotherOtaku
Member
Finished my Champions League with Milan and beat Inter in the final Professional/4 star difficulty seems to be the way to play this version. Not easy but not too hard.
Also started my Master League and wow, it really has been improved a lot. First off, Division 2 now has 18 teams. You pick 3 leagues where you can swap teams about and then have 2 leagues with the normal teams which runs alongside your ML. So, for example, I'm in Division 2 of the English league. I always change the teams about in each league so there's the Premiership, La Liga and Serie A and then Eredivisie and the French League too.
The cup is now between the teams in Division 2 and the league that you choose to advance into. So a lot harder to win as last year it was just the Div. 2 teams.
A lot more emphasis on the behind the scenes, day to day running of the team now. Scouts etc can be levelled up, you choose sponsors who provide bonuses for home wins and so on. Youth team inclusion is great! You can choose to advance promising players to your first team.
All in all, the ML is always the biggest draw for me with Pro Evo and I'm gonna be spending hundereds of hours in it this year again
Professional/4 star difficulty seems to be the way to play this version. Not easy but not too hard. Also started my Master League and wow, it really has been improved a lot. First off, Division 2 now has 18 teams. You pick 3 leagues where you can swap teams about and then have 2 leagues with the normal teams which runs alongside your ML. So, for example, I'm in Division 2 of the English league. I always change the teams about in each league so there's the Premiership, La Liga and Serie A and then Eredivisie and the French League too.
The cup is now between the teams in Division 2 and the league that you choose to advance into. So a lot harder to win as last year it was just the Div. 2 teams.
A lot more emphasis on the behind the scenes, day to day running of the team now. Scouts etc can be levelled up, you choose sponsors who provide bonuses for home wins and so on. Youth team inclusion is great! You can choose to advance promising players to your first team.
All in all, the ML is always the biggest draw for me with Pro Evo and I'm gonna be spending hundereds of hours in it this year again
Rayven_king
Member
JustAnotherOtaku said:Finished my Champions League with Milan and beat Inter in the final
Also started my Master League and wow, it really has been improved a lot. First off, Division 2 now has 18 teams. You pick 3 leagues where you can swap teams about and then have 2 leagues with the normal teams which runs alongside your ML. So, for example, I'm in Division 2 of the English league. I always change the teams about in each league so there's the Premiership, La Liga and Serie A and then Eredivisie and the French League too.
The cup is now between the teams in Division 2 and the league that you choose to advance into. So a lot harder to win as last year it was just the Div. 2 teams.
A lot more emphasis on the behind the scenes, day to day running of the team now. Scouts etc can be levelled up, you choose sponsors who provide bonuses for home wins and so on. Youth team inclusion is great! You can choose to advance promising players to your first team.
All in all, the ML is always the biggest draw for me with Pro Evo and I'm gonna be spending hundereds of hours in it this year again
tell me more about this scout system
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