Yes. Don't skip it if you plan on playing it anyway. The games work well in the intended order. Only skip Layton games if you don't plan on playing them at all or don't own them and don't plan on buying them.
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Professor Layton and The Miracle Mask |OT| This Is Another Layton Game (But In 3D)
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Yes. Don't skip it if you plan on playing it anyway. The games work well in the intended order. Only skip Layton games if you don't plan on playing them at all or don't own them and don't plan on buying them.
Dr. Zoidberg
Member
So, picarats...
My wife is convinced for some reason that you pronounce these as pee-carats.
I try to tell her that it is pronounced pick-a-rats.
As usual, she's firmly convinced I am dead wrong. Isn't this pronounced by the voice actors in the games as pick-a-rats?
My wife is convinced for some reason that you pronounce these as pee-carats.
I try to tell her that it is pronounced pick-a-rats.
As usual, she's firmly convinced I am dead wrong. Isn't this pronounced by the voice actors in the games as pick-a-rats?
I love the reference to Curious Village they made in the game in Chapter 5.
Emmy is talking to Puck, the clown with the balloons, near Jean-Paul's toy stall.
She wonders whether the rollercoaster will go into the sky, or the merry go round horses will go wild, or "What if the Ferris Wheel breaks off and goes rolling after people?"
Luke replies: "Rolling after people? Now that's just silly."
IF ONLY YOU KNEW WHAT YOUR FUTURE HELD, LUKE.
She wonders whether the rollercoaster will go into the sky, or the merry go round horses will go wild, or "What if the Ferris Wheel breaks off and goes rolling after people?"
Luke replies: "Rolling after people? Now that's just silly."
IF ONLY YOU KNEW WHAT YOUR FUTURE HELD, LUKE.
slaughterking
Member
Heh yeah, I liked that part.
Well in French it's pronounced pee-carats
Maybe it's a connexion to carats?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carat_(mass)
BassForever
Member
135 in the main game, 15 from puzzle houses so 150 total.
Dr. Zoidberg
Member
Well in French it's pronounced pee-carats
Well, now I am not so sure. I simply can't remember if the characters ever speak it in the NA versions.
A bit late to the discussion regarding chapter 6, but whatever.
I felt it started out slow, and then the puzzles got more interesting towards the end. So it did seem to drag on a bit, but mainly because the first third of the chapter was kinda boring. I did enjoy the chapter overall. Great idea to introduce new gameplay, while sprinkling in some traditional puzzles to break the monotony
I felt it started out slow, and then the puzzles got more interesting towards the end. So it did seem to drag on a bit, but mainly because the first third of the chapter was kinda boring. I did enjoy the chapter overall. Great idea to introduce new gameplay, while sprinkling in some traditional puzzles to break the monotony
Neuromancer
Member
Anyone have the passwords from the Last Spector or The Hidden Door?
So far, they're been tied to the hardware (you need to put both games into the same system), though they might have changed it for this one since it's the first on a different platform. Since the 3DS is backwards-compatible, though, I doubt it.
Neuromancer
Member
Oooooh ok.
Nope, definitely tied to hardware.
JonnyBigBoss
Banned
I don't believe so.
Does that mean I'm screwed over if I've first used them in another system, or can I salvage it if I insert both games into my current system and get the codes that way?
I played Layton 4 on a DS. When got Layton 5, I just put 4 into the 3DS instead. The code generates on the fly, it's not tied to the save at all.
ipitydatfu
Member
just beat the game, and am now trying to finish up the remaining puzzles. but i dont know where quest 120 is
When you beat all the robot levels, the key in the middle of the map opens up to the dungeon. There are another 15 bonus levels there.
ohhhhh... cheers - and what about the shop? lol i can't find anything to access those...
There are no bonus stuff for the shop unfortunately. But if you talk to the shopkeeper who gave you the minigame after beating all the levels, you get a medal. Kinda lame. :/
Oh sweet - I was forever perplexed as to why I couldn't get any of the bonus things to work in the first four games. Thanks!
yeah i got that. i was hoping i could use the shop collection items in my bonus puzzle house decor lol
podracer35
Member
What is this password thing you all are talking about? What kind of bonus does it give?
Every Layton game (not sure about the first one) has a "secret area" where you have to input a password that is generated in the next game in the series' own secret area. This unlocks some bonus content like artwork and extra dialogue and also generates another password you input back in the latest game for similar content. I only did it between Last Specter and Miracle Mask.
In LS it unlocked some Last Diva artwork and going back to MM I got some dialogue in Layton's office and a quizz
Just finished up the main game. I definitely like the new look, at least for me this is a very pretty game. The plot was okay here, but a few things felt like a bit of a misstep. Mostly I didn't like that
Oh, and I feel like it hurt the feel a lot that you started dissecting the mysteries so early. And the park's mystery was just lame. Not flashy in the slightest and immediately obvious.
Oh yeah, do the bonus robot levels and the horse minigame unlock anything or are they just there for if you feel like doing them?
the "masked gentlemen" didn't plan out ANYTHING on his own, so it wasn't really HIS revenge. He was just kinda there. I mean, I'm fine with him getting the push and funding, but couldn't he have at least come up with the "dark miracles" by himself?
Oh yeah, do the bonus robot levels and the horse minigame unlock anything or are they just there for if you feel like doing them?
8 chapters and an epilogue, but the last chapters are so short that combined they wouldn't count as a normal one
Neuromancer
Member
Do you get the robot puzzles through story progression or is it possible to miss them?
Nocturnowl
Member
You can miss them as you go since they are gained through completing certain puzzles I think but they certainly can't be missed permanently.
Neuromancer
Member
OK thanks guys.
ActStriker
Member
I beat the game last night, and can't wait for Layton 6 now. I really like how the hidden puzzles didn't skip numbers like in previous games.
Also end game spoiler question:
Also end game spoiler question:
How/when did Layton get the real Mask of Chaos? I think I must've missed something or remembered something incorrectly, because I thought Henry always had a fake mask that Angela later hid away, and Randall had the real mask the whole time.
Pretty sure he must of grabbed it after Randall revealed himself and threw it to the side. Which is pretty silly, because the guy almost died trying not to lose the thing, but whatever.
I'm almost certain Descole swapped Randall's mask by Henry's fake at some point, since he needed the mask. Layton found the real one in Henry's study, alongside the real Angela
I really enjoyed the game, the story and the puzzles, but I didn't enjoy the mystery / resolution.
I guess I got spoiled playing Lost Future first, because although verging on utterly practically implausible, it still all made sense in the end, and had a sucker punch of 'wow' revelations.
Spectre and Mask both had relatively anti-climactic solutions IMHO.
I guess I got spoiled playing Lost Future first, because although verging on utterly practically implausible, it still all made sense in the end, and had a sucker punch of 'wow' revelations.
Spectre and Mask both had relatively anti-climactic solutions IMHO.
eudaemonic
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I've tried researching this but apparently I suck at the Internets...
Right now I'm sitting at three daily puzzles downloaded. Every time I try to look for more, it tells me I'm up to date. I've seen people complaining that they had a problem in the UK but I have a US copy that I bought and I'm not finding a solution to this problem... am I just borked?
Right now I'm sitting at three daily puzzles downloaded. Every time I try to look for more, it tells me I'm up to date. I've seen people complaining that they had a problem in the UK but I have a US copy that I bought and I'm not finding a solution to this problem... am I just borked?
slaughterking
Member
Have you tried deleting the add on data or whatever it's called in the 3DS data management menu?
eudaemonic
Member
That seems to have done it. I didn't think it created extra data on the card versus the cartridge. :/ I hope that doesn't happen again. Thank you! (Just saw it kept my puzzles as completed... that's good.)
storafötter
Member
I got impatient and started playing the Miracle Mask (was half way on the first game). I get that some characters are reoccurring but it does not feel any confusing. I recognize the assistant woman from Last Specter box art. So far I really like the game and I didn't expect the 3d transition to make such an impact on me. When I first saw the footage online of this game during the Japanese 3DS launch I thought it looked terrible, but in motion it is pretty great. The puzzle style can get very repetitive but the story hooks you and sometimes you play some satisfying puzzles. After I finish this game I will try to play the rest of the first trilogy and the last spectre. In terms of voice acting the English voices feel superior to the American ones. Despite that I will be getting the US versions of the games as I want that minigame of Last Specter.
Do you know if you use the same codes for different regions?
Do you know if you use the same codes for different regions?
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Finally re-starting this now, having completed the other 4 Laytons.
I really love the shoebox diorama style the game does in 3D.
So far, I've liked each Layton slightly less than the previous one. Maybe it's because I've played them immediately after each other. Hopefully, this will be the game that will be a return to form.
Oh, and as for Amazon reviews - there's now 13 (!) genuine one-star comments, all of them complaining about it being a 3DS game. Plus one troll that's making fun of the whiners by saying this game couldn't fit in his GameCube. Sigh.
I really love the shoebox diorama style the game does in 3D.
So far, I've liked each Layton slightly less than the previous one. Maybe it's because I've played them immediately after each other. Hopefully, this will be the game that will be a return to form.
Oh, and as for Amazon reviews - there's now 13 (!) genuine one-star comments, all of them complaining about it being a 3DS game. Plus one troll that's making fun of the whiners by saying this game couldn't fit in his GameCube. Sigh.
Just finished. 27 hours. Shit.
I liked this one better than any since the first. Is that not the consensus?
The ending was dumber than it had to be, though. Not nearly as painful as Last Specter's gagged-with-a-spoon-mawkish ending, though. I liked that
this time, though.
And the minigames were outstanding. Though I am stuck on the third-from-last robot level. Usually I put down a robot level and pick it up the next day and blast through it, though.
EDIT: LEATHER LUGGAGE TAG?!?! Why wasn't I told. Goddammit Nintendo.
I liked this one better than any since the first. Is that not the consensus?
The ending was dumber than it had to be, though. Not nearly as painful as Last Specter's gagged-with-a-spoon-mawkish ending, though. I liked that
there wasn't really a final boss/castle/chase/whatever
And the minigames were outstanding. Though I am stuck on the third-from-last robot level. Usually I put down a robot level and pick it up the next day and blast through it, though.
EDIT: LEATHER LUGGAGE TAG?!?! Why wasn't I told. Goddammit Nintendo.
Double-posting. Shoot me.
I just full-completed it except for Granny's house. It looks like this is the first Layton I actually finished since the first. Looking at the older Layton games... is it just 3DS stretching, or was the old font really terrible?
EDIT: Going through my old impressions to catch up on archival Club Nintendo surveys, this really stands out for length. For plot, I think CV > UF > MM > LS = DB. LS had an OK story for most of it, but the ending made it hurt. The plot of DB was horrible throughout. I guess this game reminded me of it, though...
I just full-completed it except for Granny's house. It looks like this is the first Layton I actually finished since the first. Looking at the older Layton games... is it just 3DS stretching, or was the old font really terrible?
EDIT: Going through my old impressions to catch up on archival Club Nintendo surveys, this really stands out for length. For plot, I think CV > UF > MM > LS = DB. LS had an OK story for most of it, but the ending made it hurt. The plot of DB was horrible throughout. I guess this game reminded me of it, though...
The 3-D in this game was remarkable. I loved the graphics, art style, and the way the 3-D just popped nicely. It took me 40 hours to 99.9999999% it (I've done everything except for puzzles 148-150).
I'll have to play Layton #3 and Layton #4 for the first time, because I didn't understand anything that happened at the ending cutscene. Or maybe even read a synopsis of the first two games too (I played those a long time ago).
I'll have to play Layton #3 and Layton #4 for the first time, because I didn't understand anything that happened at the ending cutscene. Or maybe even read a synopsis of the first two games too (I played those a long time ago).
podracer35
Member
I'm not done with the game yet (Nowhere near, actually) but this worries me. I haven't played any other Layton game... I watched a walkthrough of The Last Specter, Watched Eternal Diva, and that was it. Will I be confused or lost at the end of this game? Or will I be missing out on anything? (Other than playing three fantastic games.)
I doubt you're missing anything from Unwound Future, since Last Specter and Eternal Diva are part of the prequel trilogy, while UF takes place at the end of the series chronology.
Unless there's some really crazy shenanigans going on in the ending. I haven't played it yet.