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PS Blog GDC Wrap-up: Indie Developers Choose PS4, PS3, PS Vita
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Ingueferroque
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Great to hear about Vita, it is an amazing system.
Isn't the sole mention of PS4 support because Microsoft haven't formally announced Durango though?
PS. Spelunky on Vita? Damn.
Isn't the sole mention of PS4 support because Microsoft haven't formally announced Durango though?
PS. Spelunky on Vita? Damn.
FairXchange
Member
Wow, looks like my Vita is about to get lots of love. Spelunky!
Live Free or Die
Banned
Awesome news.
Baconsammy
Banned
Yep.
I hope these people follow through with their Vita promises. I'd love to have a reason to purchase one again after the inevitable US price drop.
bigtroyjon
Member
If MS is publishing the PC version of a game, chances are high it's not coming to any other consoles.
ramoisdead
Member
Very glad to see Sony welcoming indie developers with open arms. The Vita is going to be the powerhouse indie gaming handheld this year.
Deus Ex Machina
Member
Microsoft better step their game up.. Sony is about to runaway with this thing!
Probably.
Im really excited to see what Microsoft will do at E3.... if they pull off something that is even close to competitive with the PS4 I will be incredibly impressed
outunderthestars
Banned
I think they could carve out a healthy niche by promoting indie games on the Vita.
I do think it is a bit of a mistake to let Sony have so much of the "next gen" spotlight for this long.
The Crimson Kid
what are you waiting for
Spelunky on Vita?!?
And just like that, the Vita will become the handheld platform to beat for the best 2D platformers. Spelunky is THAT good.
And just like that, the Vita will become the handheld platform to beat for the best 2D platformers. Spelunky is THAT good.
MS don't give a shit about indies. They were useful in the early years of 360, but now it's all about the extended media.
I wouldn't say indie games was ever particularly useful for Microsoft, or made them much money, but them pushing XNA and indie games right down to the end of the life cycle (with free Doritos competition games in recent years too), securing tons of XBLA exclusives every year and them generally pushing for more and more accessible ways for people to ease into development like Kodu and Kinect Labs kinda calls BS on this. MS always did more than they had to. Sony only really got their shit together towards the end/second half of the generation, but I don't think they compare with the lengths MS went to.
DiscoJer
Member
Well, they've got the indie side covered, but I wish they were getting the full retail games, which is why I bought the Vita in the first place.
Bioshock just came out, where is Bioshock Vita? Did they even start on it yet? And what about Borderlands 2? Gearbox was almost begging for Sony to pay for porting it.
Minecraft was huge for them, I think. Shadow Complex was probably pretty big, too, though that might not really be indie. But it was a big deal at the time.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
They wanted that 8GB of GDDR5.
They better pray they get as much of that 8 GB as possible. Even 1 mb of that beautiful RAM given to the OS feels like a waste :-/.
Given some indies opinions of working with MS and Live, its going to be very interesting to see how Microsoft handles its relationships with indie developers, because as it stands Sony seems to be plowing the road and getting everyone on board.
I just dont know if I can see Microsoft easing off control over XBLA to the same degree that Sony seems to be pushing for, some already seem to think tue only reason that developers, or indies are saying any of this is because the nextbox is not announced yet, and all I can wonder how true that really is when you look at some of the experiences shared this gen from various indie devs.
All I know is that this E3 is going to be probably the biggest in years, and seeing where the chips fall is going to be fun. If Sony can pull off a competetive price point for the PS4 that MS cant undercut by a significant margine this coming gen should be really interesting to watch.
This will all be moot to me though if MS is going to try and sell me a cable box though as netflix, hulu plus and blu ray cover me pretty well there, and im not paying extra for those features.
I just dont know if I can see Microsoft easing off control over XBLA to the same degree that Sony seems to be pushing for, some already seem to think tue only reason that developers, or indies are saying any of this is because the nextbox is not announced yet, and all I can wonder how true that really is when you look at some of the experiences shared this gen from various indie devs.
All I know is that this E3 is going to be probably the biggest in years, and seeing where the chips fall is going to be fun. If Sony can pull off a competetive price point for the PS4 that MS cant undercut by a significant margine this coming gen should be really interesting to watch.
This will all be moot to me though if MS is going to try and sell me a cable box though as netflix, hulu plus and blu ray cover me pretty well there, and im not paying extra for those features.
Microsoft only commissioned Minecraft after it blew up on the PC and Chair is owned by Epic. Shadow Complex is in no way an indie game and Minecraft is the perfect example of how Microsoft ignore indies and let them rot in the XBLIG ghetto until there's guaranteed money to be made.
I actually recall (but cannot find the link) that Bit Trip Runner 2 only sold around 1,000 units during its first week on XBLA.
I think having weekly game releases to span the shaky early years helped them gain momentum. They've also had big successes like Castle Crashers, Trials, Minecraft, etc. XNA encouraged indies to come to XBLA, but that was before the barriers start to come up. Kodu and Kinect Labs were bullshit. They were shoved out with basically no support, and died on the vine. That was the beginning of the end for MS as indies went. Even the games they published were tossed out with little to no advertising, and most of them sold better when they eventually showed up on Steam.
Sony is stealing Microsoft's ideas with their recent indie push, but they can only do it because MS has thrown away the support they had from indies. Instead of praising their service, you have developers saying what a mess of shit XBLA has become. How they can't afford patches, can't get a game on without a publisher, and don't sell worth a shit even if they break into the market. I'm not expecting sales to be better on PSN, but at least Sony is trying.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Sony needs to get rid of 100 bubbles limit crap on the Vita, release 64 and 128 GB mem cards priced at $79 and $119 respectively.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Ibb and Obb looks GREAT!
immortal-joe
Member
When Microsoft sees an indie game they like, they'll secure it, no matter what; even if Sony gets more independents, MS will absolutely go apeshit in securing the big blockbusters.
Third party AAA exclusives are done. They're just too expensive to limit to one console. MS will continue to get timed exclusives on map packs and other add-ons. They'll only go after indies after they're popular, which means Sony will get there before them. While Microsoft will continue to push the new Xbox as an all inclusive media box.
That's what happens when you make a nice list in a vacuum.
immortal-joe
Member
I think you are underestimating them; severely underestimating them. Time will tell.
Back on topic: I applaud Sony for this, an open environment is one that fosters creativity and vision.
I know what they could do. I just don't think they give a shit. They will continue to produce first party games and cut the occasional deal, like Minecraft, but the focus for the new system won't be on games. They care more about winning back the device most used as a Netflix box than having the highest game sales. They don't want to be the next PS2, or even Wii. They want to be the next ipad.
Probably because Bit.Trip fans are used to buying their games on other platforms. I'd have bought the entire series on XBLA but Microsoft clearly thought it best to pass on a brilliant game from an unproven developer and franchise until it started making bank for their competitors. I own them on Steam instead.
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Deleted member 17706
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We saw how that worked out for them with the Surface.
Different divisions, I know, but I don't understand why everyone has so much confidence in Microsoft as if their success next generation is a given, especially when Sony has completely changed their attitude since 2006.
harriet the spy
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Hotline Miami? Really?
OMG OMG OMG.
OMG.
I hope the sequel will also happen on vita.
OMG OMG OMG.
OMG.
I hope the sequel will also happen on vita.
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