nhlducks35
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Aren't PSP games and PS Vita games both 16:9?
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Aren't PSP games and PS Vita games both 16:9?
Grinchy
Banned
I am so thrilled by the wifi transfer for content. Haven't tried it yet, but assuming it works, that makes things so much better for me. I have the charger just sitting on the floor near my PC because of how often I'd have to remove the data cable. No more of that shit.
And the cloud saving for Vita stuff might make me actually pay for Plus when my free month runs out.
And the cloud saving for Vita stuff might make me actually pay for Plus when my free month runs out.
Well, fuck Sony. >:| Two steps forward, one gigantic leap back. FFS, they allow you to now pinch-zoom the PSX emulator but they can't allow you to even have a set/original aspect ratio for the PSP? Talk about dropped balls.
I'm not talking the ratio "ratio" I'm talking pixels. PSX emulator lets you set it at 320x240 resolution/ratio. Whereas the PSP emulator blows that up from the original 720×480 to where it looks horrible with most titles.
Well, it's still the same as before so not really a step back 
Shrinking may be a nice option for some though yeah.
You can do that.
Shrinking may be a nice option for some though yeah.You can do that.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Where can i find content manager on the PS3?
It's not on PS3, only mac/pc. But you can still transfer to ps3 via content manager on vita.
Oh for cloud saving - yep on the vita app. On PS3 I've seen it on the menu options when selecting a game at the dashboard - just click triangle (I think) and the icon will be on the list.
Pierre Levegh
Member
Do cloud saves work on the PS3 via WiFi?
Yes, always have.
I don,t get what you are trying to say, you mean you want to play the game in 1/4 the size on the vita? Because each pixel is on the psp is mapped exactly to 4pixels on the vita. That is perfect scaling if you are playing full screen.
I have no idea why you would want to do that to be honest. I would imagine playing a psp game on 1/4 of the vita screen to be unplayable. The vita screen is big, but not THAT big.
Lighthouse
Member
Have we always been able to flip through open apps with the shoulder buttons?
My favorite feature of the new update: cloud saves, followed by the improved browser.
2.0 takes the Vita to another level.
My favorite feature of the new update: cloud saves, followed by the improved browser.
2.0 takes the Vita to another level.
nhlducks35
Member
I think he is saying he wants to run it natively, without any upscaling?
Yeah.
Same way you can with PSX games.
Games look crisp as hell at original res.
I actually hate how PSP games look upscaled.
Yes. Disgaea and FFT and most other PSP titles look terrible because of that. It's like setting the PSX emulator on "full-widescreen/stretch" option. It drives me bonkers because it looks bad. The PSX emulator at least has "normal (320x240)" and "zoomed" (like it would look on a TV but not removed from 4:3 aspect ratio and a bit blown up options to where "purists" like me aren't driven insane by blurry fonts and pixel-y graphics with no option to lower the resolution/ratio down to where it looks like it was meant to look.
You're right it can look a lot nicer when shrunk...just a little bit of black bars, don't have to go as small as psp res but the option would be nice. Hopefully it's coming...tbh I'm surprised we even got it for PSX so at least it may be a possibility. Previously, they added the extra control settings from one to the other as well after an update.
Pierre Levegh
Member
Wait, so I can use content manager on the Vita to connect to my PS3 and transfer data?
Yeah, the last update added that, iirc.
You don't get it. The scaling is already perfect (in the sense that it is a perfect ratio on each dimension), there is no other 'better' scaling option. Mapping 1 pixel to 4 means that playing on the vita, each pixel looks exactly the same on the psp, except perhaps larger since the vita screen is larger. Any other scaling option would be worse, except possibly to play on 1/4 of the vita screen, which would be so small as to be unplayable.
Baconsammy
Banned
Nice browser score. Can't wait to get a Vita on Black Friday. For reference, Wii U's browser score is 258 +4, Chrome and Safari on ipad mini are 386+9.
Liking the browser, no issues so far except for the lack of youtube auto linking..
Ah I was hoping for a nice compromise...yeah 1/4 would be too small. Thanks for the info.
Just need those folders still..
Ah I was hoping for a nice compromise...yeah 1/4 would be too small. Thanks for the info.
Just need those folders still..
the_korben
Member
So, the update is really great and all, but I just tried copying a video (a few hundred MB) from my PC to the Vita over my wireless network, and the transfer speed is abysmal. It seems like it might take 10 minutes to transfer a few MB. I'm wondering if it's my router, my PC, or the Vita. Can someone try to reproduce this?
Doesn't the Vita do some weird encryption process or something? Transferring was always crap
huh?
Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought you were just asking if the PS3 can upload saves to the cloud.
It would not be unplayable with 1:1 pixel mapping.
PSX games are just fine and they are smaller res than PSP games.
It's not 1/4th the size the screen. It'd measure about half physical screen size.
It's just a quarter of the pixels being used.
Right, because "normal" in the PSX emulator is oh so unplayable. OH WAIT. *rolls eyes*
All they need to do is give the option to have it look the same as it would on the PSP. I don't give a damn about it "mapping to 4 pixels." I give a damn about how the games look on the system and they look horrible because of that "mapping to 4 pixels" is blowing the fuck out of the original resolution.
^ Aren't the pixels larger on the PSP than the vita? So it would be smaller then it would on a psp screen...unless I've misunderstood. Yes I just checked, psp has 4x less pixels and only an inch or so smaller. About the same aspect ratio too...so bobbytkc was spot on.. 1/4 of the vita screen would be tiny! Not sure if there is actually a good compromise in between but will just see what we get...wouldn't mind squashing them a bit to shrink them anyway to be honest.
Doesn't sound right... 10 minutes for the few 100mb more like. Check wifi strengths?
Doesn't sound right... 10 minutes for the few 100mb more like. Check wifi strengths?
That's it, you have no idea what you are talking about. I don't care anyways.
Brad Grenz
Member
Not on photos, video or music. I'm testing with a 400 MB video. We'll see how long it takes.
yurinka
Member
You need to restart the vita after installing the PSM v1.0 runtime to make the PSM games work.
Treythalomew
Member
After reinstalling everything I got the wifi transfers to work.
Got pretty good speeds for transfers on videos. I was seeing an average of 20 Mbps from my pc to my vita and my network in only G not N.
Moved a 410 MB video in exactly 3 minutes too.
Got pretty good speeds for transfers on videos. I was seeing an average of 20 Mbps from my pc to my vita and my network in only G not N.
Moved a 410 MB video in exactly 3 minutes too.
Brad Grenz
Member
Yup. Was just about to post about the same results.
You need to do your math again. Half on each dimension means that the area for a 1:1 pixel mapping is a quarter of the total screen area.
Few changes I've noticed that I don't think have been mentioned
Video
- Playback menu is much bigger, and centered
- You can now go in super slow mo. (1 frame a second?)
Miscellaneous
- You can now download updates to games without needing to insert the game card first.
- PSM version installed listed under settings
- Under trophies, the buttons for PSVita System/Playstation Network look different. (Smaller?) They also don't make a noise when you press them.
And it's kind of unrelated, but there's an update to the Skype app.
Video
- Playback menu is much bigger, and centered
- You can now go in super slow mo. (1 frame a second?)
Miscellaneous
- You can now download updates to games without needing to insert the game card first.
- PSM version installed listed under settings
- Under trophies, the buttons for PSVita System/Playstation Network look different. (Smaller?) They also don't make a noise when you press them.
And it's kind of unrelated, but there's an update to the Skype app.
the_korben
Member
Thanks for testing, guys. I guess my router is acting up or something. I tried switching from the PC to the Mac but that didn't change anything. Also, the video player is constantly saying "Cannot copy files that are not compatible with the PS Vita system" when I try to copy my files. I have to look at the specific information for that file first, and then it works. Weird :-/
It's 1/2 the screen size. And 1/4 the pixels.
That's what I wrote.
Am I missing something here? It is half on each dimension, unless you are talking about squishing the image, I don't really know what you are talking about. What exactly do you mean by screen size? Area? Because 1/4 if the pixels means 1/4 of the area. Each pixel occupies the same area.
What? No, keep pressing down on the d-pad when playing a video.FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
edit: yep - using Left analogue stick
Sorry. It's my wording that's off here. You are correct.
I just mean it would be totally playable and would look great because PSX games are even less than a quarter size and look great.
@bobbytkc How are the pixels the same size (or occupying the same area) if there's only like 1" difference and 4x the amount of pixels :S unless you didn't mean psp vs vita screen sizes.. I thought I understood before that post..
Oh yeah you're right, much better thanks.
Just need to wait for the control menu to fade away (with both actually).
Oh yeah you're right, much better thanks.
Just need to wait for the control menu to fade away (with both actually).
Wait nvm, I misunderstood what you meant before. Yeah the analog stick works too.
Sorry it was a confusing post, I meant it was going to be great for all those sports slowmos I'll be watching....
Is it just me, or the Vita as a whole feels better after this update? I'm liking my Vita more after it!
Yes they improved so much it does feel like a step-up. Folders though....can't be far..I hope!
It's snappier.Is it just me, or the Vita as a whole feels better after this update? I'm liking my Vita more after it!
Last update made it snappier too, this one has refined it even further.
Brad Grenz
Member
You're right. Here's an image example of what he's asking for (quoted to make it close to actual size):
