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PS3 - Blu-Ray question

If your interest is exclusively in Blu Ray playback, I'm not sure I agree that the PS3 is a great choice. The feature set is fine, but it's a pretty awkward machine to use for movie playback. It's also fairly noisy, and the PS3 remote is rather crappy.

I think it's the right choice if you have at least some interest in the games library - but as a dedicated movie player, not so much.
 
It's not awkward.

It's not noisy.

It's a great value.

The Blu-Ray remote works extremely well.

I don't see any reason to get a stand alone player at this point.
 
It's awkward in a nice stereo cabinet.

It's noisy as hell in the nice stereo cabinet.

It's a great value.

The Blu-Ray remote works extremely well but is additional cost.

I don't see any reason to get a stand alone player unless you want it silent and you dont play games much. The Samsung BDP1200 fills the non gamers need.


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Norse said:
It's awkward in a nice stereo cabinet.

It's noisy as hell in the nice stereo cabinet.

It's a great value.

The Blu-Ray remote works extremely well but is additional cost.

I don't see any reason to get a stand alone player unless you want it silent and you dont play games much. The Samsung BDP1200 fills the non gamers need.


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It's not noisy in a 'nice' stereo cabinet. Especially if complimented with a nice 'stereo or better' sound system...

It's not 'awkward' in a 'nice' stereo cabinet. Looks pretty nice to me...
 
Norse said:
It's awkward in a nice stereo cabinet.

It's noisy as hell in the nice stereo cabinet.

It's a great value.

The Blu-Ray remote works extremely well but is additional cost.

I don't see any reason to get a stand alone player unless you want it silent and you dont play games much. The Samsung BDP1200 fills the non gamers need.


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So basically if it's not in a nice stereo cabinet everything is fine?
 
donkey show said:
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You know I could own you for using my bandwith.
 
donkey show said:
*taken off*

No hard feelings, yeah?
thank you, though I'm not sure if quoting my whole post helps.

Anyway, I'm up to almost half way through my monthly bandwith :(
 
Norse said:
The Samsung BDP1200 fills the non gamers need.

Out of curiosity, can those stand alone players be updated like the PS3 can? The BDP 1200 doesnt output at 1080p/24hz for example. The PS3 can, after a recent FW update.

Besides, I dont think that model is HDMI 1.3 either.
 
If you live in Europe, try to get one of the silent ones. Mine is so loud I can't recommend it as a BR Player, I need to send it back. There are a lot of loud PS3s in Europe from what I've read.
 
Wake me up when the actual discs aren't so insanely expensive. I was in Circuit City the other day, and 300 was $13 on DVD, and $29.99 on Blu Ray. $29.99? That's not how you grow a format in my opinion.
 
Tobor said:
Wake me up when the actual discs aren't so insanely expensive. I was in Circuit City the other day, and 300 was $13 on DVD, and $29.99 on Blu Ray. $29.99? That's not how you grow a format in my opinion.

You don't know you're born. Blu-rays like Pirates are ÂŁ28 over here ($55).
 
nofilter said:
You don't know you're born. Blu-rays like Pirates are ÂŁ28 over here ($55).

Pirates is certainly more expensive over here but actually has an RRP of ÂŁ24.99 (not ÂŁ28), and can be picked up online for ÂŁ17.99.
 
pswii60 said:
Pirates is certainly more expensive over here but actually has an RRP of ÂŁ24.99 (not ÂŁ28), and can be picked up online for ÂŁ17.99.

Aye, I know, but I meant in-store as he was quoting Circuit City. It's probably cheaper still online in the US. The RRP is actually ÂŁ27.99, though.

Either way, it's like 200% more expensive over here. I've ordered 300 online from a US store and it's been 2 weeks already and no-show... Can't win.
 
nofilter said:
Aye, I know, but I meant in-store as he was quoting Circuit City. It's probably cheaper still online in the US. The RRP is actually ÂŁ27.99, though.

Either way, it's like 200% more expensive over here. I've ordered 300 online from a US store and it's been 2 weeks already and no-show... Can't win.

What you Brits pay is sort of irrelevant to my point. In America, these new formats are not going to become mainstream with a 50% to 120% markup over DVD. That's niche pricing.
 
Tobor said:
What you Brits pay is sort of irrelevant to my point. In America, these new formats are not going to become mainstream with a 50% to 120% markup over DVD. That's niche pricing.

How is it irrelevant? If they're even more expensive here then it's going to be an even smaller niche outside of the US, regardless of the % markup (which, actually, is about the same for us, so that cancels out my arguement).
 
nofilter said:
How is it irrelevant? If they're even more expensive here then it's going to be an even smaller niche outside of the US, regardless of the % markup (which, actually, is about the same for us, so that cancels out my arguement).

Sorry, I just thought you were saying I shouldn't complain since you were paying even more.

Miscommunication.
 
Tobor said:
Sorry, I just thought you were saying I shouldn't complain since you were paying even more.

Miscommunication.

Oh, I kind of was, which doesn't help, sorry. Both points stand - we pay STUPID prices and prices overall are too high.

How's that? =)
 
question - since i'll probably be importing a PS3 somewhere down the track:

Some people have mentioned that a good number of Blu-Ray movies released so far have been region free. How can you tell whether a movie is region free or not before buying it? Will it be marked on the packaging, or will the packaging just have a Region B sign when released in Region B countries, even if the disc itself is region free?
 
hirokazu said:
question - since i'll probably be importing a PS3 somewhere down the track:

Some people have mentioned that a good number of Blu-Ray movies released so far have been region free. How can you tell whether a movie is region free or not before buying it? Will it be marked on the packaging, or will the packaging just have a Region B sign when released in Region B countries, even if the disc itself is region free?

http://bluray.lindsite.dk/ - although it appears down just now.
 
Related question:

Do those 4 coloured buttons EVER do anything during Blu-ray playback?

Are they just for special commands that have to be programmed in specific discs or something?
 
Tobor said:
Wake me up when the actual discs aren't so insanely expensive. I was in Circuit City the other day, and 300 was $13 on DVD, and $29.99 on Blu Ray. $29.99? That's not how you grow a format in my opinion.

There's a 1-disc DVD and a 2-disc DVD loaded with extras for 300. The Blu-ray and HD DVD versions have the extras of the 2-disc, and are usually priced the same as the 2-disc (a few $ more for the HD DVD). The $13 disc was probably just the 1-disc edition.

I actually ended up getting the BD on Amazon.ca for less than I would have paid for the 2-disc DVD if I bought it retail.
 
nofilter said:
The guy at Movietyme is a really nice, helpful chap. Wish they'd use couriers though - it's been 10 days now for my last order.
;_; Cheap though, and free delivery. Can't say I've ever had to wait that long, maybe you got caught up in the strikes?
 
ThirstyFly said:
Related question:

Do those 4 coloured buttons EVER do anything during Blu-ray playback?

Are they just for special commands that have to be programmed in specific discs or something?

I haven't seen them used for anything. Perhaps they might find a use when BD-J appears and discs have some interactive content.
 
ThirstyFly said:
There's a 1-disc DVD and a 2-disc DVD loaded with extras for 300. The Blu-ray and HD DVD versions have the extras of the 2-disc, and are usually priced the same as the 2-disc (a few $ more for the HD DVD). The $13 disc was probably just the 1-disc edition.

I actually ended up getting the BD on Amazon.ca for less than I would have paid for the 2-disc DVD if I bought it retail.

All the BluRay discs were $29.99 or higher. Norbit was $29.99. You want to tell me someone wants a second disc of extras for Norbit?

I understand you can get them cheaper online. Not the point. The Brick and Mortar retail prices are not ready for the masses.
 
Tobor said:
Wake me up when the actual discs aren't so insanely expensive. I was in Circuit City the other day, and 300 was $13 on DVD, and $29.99 on Blu Ray. $29.99? That's not how you grow a format in my opinion.

Where were you when DVD was first introduced to the market? Your mothers womb?
 
OT: Did anyone get their 5 free discs yet, and how long did it take? I sent mine stuff in a month ago and nothing yet.
 
Tobor said:
All the BluRay discs were $29.99 or higher. Norbit was $29.99. You want to tell me someone wants a second disc of extras for Norbit?

I understand you can get them cheaper online. Not the point. The Brick and Mortar retail prices are not ready for the masses.
They're cheaper at Best Buy. Just bought Final Fantasy: Spirits Within Blu Ray on the day of release for $24.99 (at the brick and mortar store), and I've seen cheaper than that.

Still not DVD pricing but getting close to reasonable.
 
TerryLee81 said:
If you live in Europe, try to get one of the silent ones. Mine is so loud I can't recommend it as a BR Player, I need to send it back. There are a lot of loud PS3s in Europe from what I've read.


I live in the U.S. and had my PS3 since last November and its loud as hell. I've timed it, and just like clockwork, at about the 8 minute mark of the system being on, the fans kick into overdrive and its just about as loud as my Xbox 360. The fans also run at full speed when watching an upscaled DVD. System works perfectly, so I doubt there's much I can do about it.
 
djkimothy said:
Where were you when DVD was first introduced to the market? Your mothers womb?

Haha...no. I waited for 3 years until the disc prices dropped to normal. Pretty much my point.

This thread has been derailed enough though.
 
Mmmkay said:
;_; Cheap though, and free delivery. Can't say I've ever had to wait that long, maybe you got caught up in the strikes?

Maybe... He's sent another today though, really impressed with the customer service.
 
TerryLee81 said:
If you live in Europe, try to get one of the silent ones. Mine is so loud I can't recommend it as a BR Player, I need to send it back. There are a lot of loud PS3s in Europe from what I've read.
I don't think it matters where or when you bought it. The only difference is how warm the place is where you put the PS3. The fan will go into high speed mode eventually, but it's a difference of there being a 2-3 hours before it does, or a just a few minutes, all depending on how warm the room is.
 
It's the best at any price because of the Sony support. New firmware every month... and they will continually improve the BD playback. Also, It's great at DVD upscaling. It's insane what you get with the PS3 for the price. The features/hardware are at a great value.
 
Tobor said:
Wake me up when the actual discs aren't so insanely expensive. I was in Circuit City the other day, and 300 was $13 on DVD, and $29.99 on Blu Ray. $29.99? That's not how you grow a format in my opinion.

Why would you consider buying Blu-Rays at some place other than Amazon?
 
womfalcs3 said:
It's the best at any price because of the Sony support. New firmware every month... and they will continually improve the BD playback. Also, It's great at DVD upscaling. It's insane what you get with the PS3 for the price. The features/hardware are at a great value.


1080p/24 was a great addition. Improving the upscaling was a great addition.

If it had analog outs for audio and an IR port it'd be damn near perfect (yes I know you get get around the IR thing with a dongle).
 
tanod said:
Why would you consider buying Blu-Rays at some place other than Amazon?

Well, for me, it's instant gratification getting it at a Futureshop/Best Buy. Right now Amazon is acting retarded with 2 of my recent orders. :/
 
tanod said:
Why would you consider buying Blu-Rays at some place other than Amazon?

I've only got about 6 blue-ray movies and I would buy more if it weren't for the price at retail stores. For me, DVDs were almost always an impulse buy. I'd be in a store, see something I want to watch, and then pick it up. Not so much with blu-rays until the price comes down. All the movies I've purchased so far have been through Amazon. The problem is that when I see a Blu-Ray that I want in a retail store, I usually talk myself out of buying it, or completely forget about it by the time I get home to order it off Amazon.
 
Tobor said:
All the BluRay discs were $29.99 or higher. Norbit was $29.99. You want to tell me someone wants a second disc of extras for Norbit?

I understand you can get them cheaper online. Not the point. The Brick and Mortar retail prices are not ready for the masses.

Haha, god no I don't think anyone would want Norbit. From what I've seen, movies that have a smaller market (IE terrible movies like Norbit) are usually priced higher. There's quite a few excellent movies under the $30 range (and even some at the $20 mark). I was just explaining the price difference in your example title. You're comparing it to a lesser product.

As for the whole online thing, again, just an example. I believe the 300 BD was only $1-2 more at most places than the 2-disc DVD in B&M stores around here (Canada).
 
The biggest thing is, I wouldn't get a standalone player until 2.0 spec players are released.

All players are currently 1.0 spec, meaning they can't decode TrueHD or DTA-MA (you need a specific receiver to decode). Denon has announced their first 1.1 spec player, which will decode TrueHD and DTS-MA, as well as have stellar analog outputs (though it'll cost a good $1500+. 2.0 spec adds internet connectivity.

The PS3 won't have very good analog outs at all compared to standalone players, but if you are only using HDMI, that's not a problem. The PS3 has pretty decent digital video processing (although it still won't match an HQV Reon standalone). So yeah, the PS3 is a pretty good player, especially for the money, but it most likely won't outdo any standalone player out there.

The main reason I'd get the PS3 now though, is that it's by far the most flexible player out there because of internet connectivity and heavy firmware updates. And hey, it plays games!
 
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